Best Middleweight Ever?

How the fuck do you get RJJ? He was put in because people were saying in another thread that he was the best 160 ever

Monzon for me, Hagler as a super close second.

Not one person has said Monzon im suprised

Marvin Hagler,he was the best,i hear Monzon comes close too

Hagler is a nightmare for ANY 160 ever

I grew up in Mass, so I might be a bit bias, but Its Hagler for me. I'd pick Ray Robinson, but his great years were more at welter.

Hagler, no doubt about it.

Hagler was a beast

Hagler for me.

Marvin Hagler

Hagler and i can't see how anyone would say otherwise. The man did not have the press the way stars like Leonard did, he had to fight his way to the top. Matter of fact, i think that he had over 50 fights before he was finally able to get a title shot. He was also the most tecnically sound middleweight as well. He was a southpaw, decent power, good speed, switched from orthodox back to southpaw, and could adjust to almost any style. He didn't have one punch power, but he was the type of fighter that would wear his opponents down and stop him late Hagler is a fucking beast and easily one of my favorite fighters of all time.

Hagler or Monzon. They make the top 2 middleweights. Roy Jones didn't do much in the MW division. A green Hopkins was his best win. Hopkins beat solid opponents over the years but no great middleweights. He makes top lists but not the number 1 spot because, although his opposition was good, it wasn't great. Harry Greb and Ketchel are good choices but there is no footage of them and it's hard to judge unless you know a LOT about boxing and the era's they fought in. Robinson's best work was done in the WW division, he did fight some great middleweights but he wasn't at his best there. Very good resume even there though and probably makes top lists, just not the number 1 spot.

marvin hagler.

Here is some Greb footage, sparring and in training camp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMA6Pd6tT3Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO2dTnFl2Z0&feature=related

Are robots eligible? If so Hagler for me.

here are some monzon bits: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXivXNvb780 (a bit of wrestling and see how his opponent reacts to his corner throwing the towel in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ2B0gXIiRk&feature=related this one shows him in a better light. Accurate but maybe too slow against Robinson and Hagler would have stood and out traded him. IMO

Stanley Ketchel was supposed to be very good I was going to put Stanley in but didnt think anyone would mention him. He also floored Jack Johnsen at heavyweight.

Hagler and i can't see how anyone would say otherwise. The man did not have the press the way stars like Leonard did, he had to fight his way to the top. Matter of fact, i think that he had over 50 fights before he was finally able to get a title shot. He was also the most tecnically sound middleweight as well. He was a southpaw, decent power, good speed, switched from orthodox back to southpaw, and could adjust to almost any style. He didn't have one punch power, but he was the type of fighter that would wear his opponents down and stop him late

Michael Nunn.

I haven't seen enough of Monzon or Greb, so my vote goes to Hagler.