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Wow, I really missed how much damage that shot did!
That being said, it wasn't even close to taking Oscar out of the fight.
On fight night, I didn't think Floyd hurt Oscar very much at all.
Man did you ever really see Oscar in his prime? i doubt it.. He would've beaten Floyd, dont matter how delusional you guys are with Floyd beating everyone in the world... Obviously he hasn't even fought anyone near of what Oscar has faced.
Read above when I said that great champions from the era before always fade, but not enough that they can't put up a competitive fight against the new era's best. Don't kid yourself that Oscar would beat Floyd down.
That's a pretty tough argument to make. Usually the best of an era (De La Hoya, Mosley, Vargas, Trinidad were last era) do fade, but not so that they can't effectively fight still. This is why the new era's best always has a close fight (but usually a win) over the last era's best.
I'm not sure if a prime De La Hoya would beat Mayweather. I'm not sure if a prime Mosley beats Miguel Cotto... It's tough argument to make, and I think you are making it harder by saying that Oscar knocks the shit out of Floyd.
Yeah good point. I overstated the issue a little bit.
LOL Prime Oscar get beat by Floyd at 140? You fuking Floyd fans are cracking me the fuck up...It took HOPKINS to stop Oscar at a weight he should of never been in the first place.
Mayweather decisioned De La Hoya at a weight Mayweather should have never been at.
Mayweather would have to win a decision against 140 pound De La Hoya to win though I think. Oscar is too tough.
Eh, no. Prime for prime, Oscar knocks the shit out of Floyd. Floyd could barely beat a 34 year old Oscar.
Floyd was never a killer puncher at 140, but Oscar would have been.
That's a pretty tough argument to make. Usually the best of an era (De La Hoya, Mosley, Vargas, Trinidad were last era) do fade, but not so that they can't effectively fight still. This is why the new era's best always has a close fight (but usually a win) over the last era's best.
I'm not sure if a prime De La Hoya would beat Mayweather. I'm not sure if a prime Mosley beats Miguel Cotto... It's tough argument to make, and I think you are making it harder by saying that Oscar knocks the shit out of Floyd.
Floyd > Oscar regardless of weight
Oscar's best shot was at 154 and he got embarrassed
Oscar was washed up, and he didn't get embarrassed, if anything Floyd embarrassed himself by letting DLH hang in there for a split decision!!!!
I just don't understand why this is even being discussed we ALL know Floyd ain't fighting anyone in their PRIME, fantasy fight or not he even ducks those!!!!
just watch the 5th round, 11th round and 12th round and you will see oscar wobbling, especially in the 12th round, where he stumbled back after floyd landed a right hand upstairs like on his forehead after they clinched up. i am telling you, he wobbled oscar a few times in that fight. prime for prime, if they fought at 140 when floyd was a killer, he would have stopped oscar imo, speed kills and oaccurate punching kills. had this been floyd of 2005, oscar was in for an embarrassing night.
Eh, no. Prime for prime, Oscar knocks the shit out of Floyd. Floyd could barely beat a 34 year old Oscar.
Floyd was never a killer puncher at 140, but Oscar would have been.
first of all, gatti stunned oscar in the 1st round of their fight, and gatti never really touched floyd at all, let alone stun him. nobody beat on gatti one sidely as bad as floyd did in history, nobody, including manfredy who knocked him out, or oscar who pumbled im. floyd had him outmatched from the opening bell, and this was a floyd who moved up in weight. nobody is comparing gatti to chavez, but to many people chavez and gatti were past their primes, yes, chavez was more accomplished, but this means nothing as to him being past his prime. prime for prime, gatti wold have never beaten floyd at any weight class to many people. with chavez and oscar, prime for prime, you could argue either way, but a fighter of floyd's skillset would be hard to match, so prime for prime, oscar gets dusted by floyd, and you can't convince me otherwise, i have always wanted to see them fight in their primes and believe the match could have happened earlier than it did, but it didn't but anyway, floyd mayweather in 2005, was unstoppable at 140, and would have dusted kosta, hatton, and cotto also at that weight class, which he would still do today, but that's another argument.
Gatti was out classed, mismatched and over the hill but at the same time Floyd landing a cheap shot during the fight and counted as a knockdown, I am not saying this changes the outcome of the fight but it did have an effect on Gatti!!!!
wow.........your from Tx?wouldn't you like to know silly boy. and, no i'm not from texas, the txrs is a nickname used with the wrestler steve austin, it means the texas rattlesnake. what does 2501 mean? i don't even want to guess.
No, no no! I think he'd be tough enough to go a bit longer though. Maybe lose a horribly one sided desicion.
But Gatti and Chavez...
there is no comparison.
Oscar put on the same type of performance, almost as one sided, on a far greater fighter.first of all, gatti stunned oscar in the 1st round of their fight, and gatti never really touched floyd at all, let alone stun him. nobody beat on gatti one sidely as bad as floyd did in history, nobody, including manfredy who knocked him out, or oscar who pumbled im. floyd had him outmatched from the opening bell, and this was a floyd who moved up in weight. nobody is comparing gatti to chavez, but to many people chavez and gatti were past their primes, yes, chavez was more accomplished, but this means nothing as to him being past his prime. prime for prime, gatti wold have never beaten floyd at any weight class to many people. with chavez and oscar, prime for prime, you could argue either way, but a fighter of floyd's skillset would be hard to match, so prime for prime, oscar gets dusted by floyd, and you can't convince me otherwise, i have always wanted to see them fight in their primes and believe the match could have happened earlier than it did, but it didn't but anyway, floyd mayweather in 2005, was unstoppable at 140, and would have dusted kosta, hatton, and cotto also at that weight class, which he would still do today, but that's another argument.
Based on what? Arturo Gatti? DeMarcus Corley? What the fuck are you talking about.
You are forgetting how Oscar looked at 140! He destroyed, dominated, and knocked out the greatest 140 pound fighter/greatest Mexican fighter of all time. Do some fucking research before you say things like that. Look at de la Hoya VS Chavez man!no, based on floyd being a killer with a fast as shit right hand and a defense that was just amazing at that weight class. and talking about a great chin, floyd was caught by corley and took his punches ery well, not saying that corley hits harder than oscar, but floyd at 140 was unstoppable looking to say the least. oscar dominating chavez who was for the most part done to begin with, and imo floyd's pime weight class was 140, where he threw hard combos and very fast combinations an din no way was oscar more fluent with his movmeent or accuracy than floyd at 140, and this was floyd who only fought 3 times at this weight class. oscar never fought anybody as brilliant as mayweather in the ring, not even sweet pea himself has been more brilliant than floyd. at 140 i saw floyd beatng the shit out of oscar, he was just too fast and too elusive a fighter for oscar at this weight class. i'm not saying oscar had a bad chin, because hje didn't, but i do feel floyd would have tagged oscar all night, and stopped him at this weight class prime for prime, which is a big reason why i feel floyd called oscar out for years, and oscar paid him no mind.
well please dont say a prime gatti would be a different outcome with pbf
No, no no! I think he'd be tough enough to go a bit longer though. Maybe lose a horribly one sided desicion.
But Gatti and Chavez...
there is no comparison.
Oscar put on the same type of performance, almost as one sided, on a far greater fighter.
IMO, prime for prime I got DLH all day, Mayweather prime or not hasn't fought a prime fighter in a long time so it's hard to tell what he would look like against a good prime fighter!!!!
Lol, sorry, I did come off some what angry. It seemed really ludacris to me. Yes Chavez was on the downslide, but dont tell me that Gatti was not.
well please dont say a prime gatti would be a different outcome with pbf
Lol, sorry, I did come off some what angry. It seemed really ludacris to me. Yes Chavez was on the downslide, but dont tell me that Gatti was not.
LOL it be like that sometimes. I won't argue about Gatti either.
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