would Vernon Forrest Beat Floyd Mayweather ? this is a guy who knows how to neutralise speed ,he did it against Mosley & proceeded to dominate the fight with his JAB
Floyd was troubled by the Jab against Oscar ,although i do attribute a lot of Dela Hoya's fatigue to Floyd's brilliant defence
who thinks Forrest could trouble Floyd
Prime Vernon Forrest would whoop Floyd's ass, it would look similar to Forrest vs Mosley, but it would be a bit more competitive.
Today's Vernon Forrest would lose a UD to Floyd, he hasn't really impressed me in his comeback, he got a ridiculous gift decision against a washed up Quartey. I remember his interview with Merchant after the fight:
Forrest: I would like to thank god.
Merchant: You should thank the judges.:lol1:
If the Floyd and Oscar 2 fight actually happenyou will see most of the buildup circle around Oscar's jab. When fight time comes I gurantee that punch won't be a factor for Oscar or at least not as much of a factor as you would think.
Yes it's possible.
At this moment (After watching Mosley against Cotto, Mosley I thought might have had flashes of old based on the Collazo fight prior etc) I think Forrest might be the best choice of anyone to beat Floyd.
I'm basing the following assessment on what I saw from Floyd in his last two fights, and how his respective opponent (DLH/Hatton) was able to at times.........win the round or parts of. Well all I could see.......is that Floyd was vulnerable to the jab against DLH and whenever Oscar threw it, it landed and he was temporarily dominating the round. That didn't happen often and it would only happen when Floyd lapses and does the 1 and done thing.
Hatton was able to land lead punches on Floyd. I don't know if that was his quickness, or that was Floyd standing flat footed. Well all I know is.......Forrest simply leads with the jab and throws a right hand behind it.
All he would do, is stick to his boxing routine. The question is.........can he deal with the shots Floyd would hit him with? LOL.
Because I'll be quite honest with you here. People say Mayorga has power........lol I don't see how those telegraphed punches are anywhere near as deadly as the accurate shots Floyd throws. If he lands in succession he'll more than likely have Forrest in trouble.
Would I pick Forrest? Nope. I'm just saying.......he'd stand a shot IMO.
Floyd by late TKO.
Forrest IMO throws more jabs than Oscar and if he were to land accurately and often could Floyd handle it ? oh...along with the big right hand followed. Good post though by you Mr Knives.
I mean, the question was "Can Forrest Beat Mayweather".
I interpret that as "Is It Possible That Forrest Could Beat Mayweather". Well yeah it's possible and I think you might as well conduct a series of coin flips on who really would stand a shot against him.
In reality, it's like nobody. He's just too fucking good.
I only would lean towards a Forrest because of my first post.
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Hmm,ive heard rumours that Vernon wants to come back down to Welter,so welterweight,the hottest division
He stated that he would want to do that but he just can't anymore.
Yes it's possible.
At this moment (After watching Mosley against Cotto, Mosley I thought might have had flashes of old based on the Collazo fight prior etc) I think Forrest might be the best choice of anyone to beat Floyd.
I'm basing the following assessment on what I saw from Floyd in his last two fights, and how his respective opponent (DLH/Hatton) was able to at times.........win the round or parts of. Well all I could see.......is that Floyd was vulnerable to the jab against DLH and whenever Oscar threw it, it landed and he was temporarily dominating the round. That didn't happen often and it would only happen when Floyd lapses and does the 1 and done thing.
Hatton was able to land lead punches on Floyd. I don't know if that was his quickness, or that was Floyd standing flat footed. Well all I know is.......Forrest simply leads with the jab and throws a right hand behind it.
All he would do, is stick to his boxing routine. The question is.........can he deal with the shots Floyd would hit him with? LOL.
Because I'll be quite honest with you here. People say Mayorga has power........lol I don't see how those telegraphed punches are anywhere near as deadly as the accurate shots Floyd throws. If he lands in succession he'll more than likely have Forrest in trouble.
Would I pick Forrest? Nope. I'm just saying.......he'd stand a shot IMO.
Floyd by late TKO.
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Forrest is too old. A question coming to my mind is, how would have Floyd done at welter in the second half of the 90s?
Pea, Oscar, Tito, Mosley, Forrest, and Quartey are a scary bunch.
would Vernon Forrest Beat Floyd Mayweather ? this is a guy who knows how to neutralise speed ,he did it against Mosley & proceeded to dominate the fight with his JAB
Floyd was troubled by the Jab against Oscar ,although i do attribute a lot of Dela Hoya's fatigue to Floyd's brilliant defence
who thinks Forrest could trouble Floyd
This is why Forrest is one of those fighters that get no recognition. He's a darkhorse that has the style to beat alot of guys. He could have beaten Mayorga had he not been intimidated. His jab is world class and he came from the same school as Commander Evander in which he knows how to fight dirty without making it obvious. Vernon would trouble Oscar or Floyd on any given night. If a DLH/PBF 2 was to ever happen...Vernon should be on the undercard.
paul williams has no power behind his punches.The way he throws his punches reminds me of a rag doll.
Paul Williams does hit hard,he just isnt a ko artist,he wears you down with his punches,thats why hes called The Punisher,his punches catch up with you down the stretch
Yeh but thats Baldomir :p He hasnt looked the same since moving up in weight,light middle isnt his division,he got rocked badly a couple of times in his last fight
where would the fight happen in your opinion
i thought Forrest looked good against Baldy
Yeh but thats Baldomir :p He hasnt looked the same since moving up in weight,light middle isnt his division,he got rocked badly a couple of times in his last fight
Mosley had a shit defense and wasn't nearly as elusive/accurate Floyd is.
and Ike Quartey beat Forrest.
good point Mosley defence is non existent he relies on speed
what difference does that make if Quartey should have won or not