What is the better, more effective punch?
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Have you seen Hatton between fights? What does it matter if the guy turns into a doughboy between fights? You do realize that you don't kill fat cells when you lose weight, only shrink them, that's why he baloons in between fights and most people yo yo diet, fat cells like to be at a certain size. Hatton is not a powerhouse or a one punch KO artist. I would bet any amount of money that Manny hits harder. I doubt the fight would happen, but if it did, I wouldn't be suprised if Pac knocked him out at all.
There are big fights out there for Manny even if he loses to Marquez, hell Manny would have won the first fight if that one judge knew how to score a 3 knockdown round.
if the fight does happen, i will bet half or all of my points. Floyd is a great fighter so im not suprised that he beat Hatton, a blown up Manny PAC does not even have a punchers chance IMO. he will not have much power if he moves up because he will be well past his weight and you will see.
If PAC really fought Hatton at 140, he would just be blown up and slow. hes just coming up from junior lightweight and he would be fighting a man that is a natural junior welterweight that blows up to 185 in between fights? i just cant see PAC doing well at all in this fight. he would just get bullied and muscled around the ring like a rag doll. even if he does come in at 144, hes still past his weight that hes suppose to be at. i dont think that there would be any point in me watching it if this fight DID happen. Hattons power would be devestating to PAC. just look at the Mayweather/Hatton fight, Floyd has not got a stoppge in about 2 years and once he fought a fighter that was blown up (Hatton) he showed power. i see the same result but worse if Hatton and Pac fought. matter of fact, there is no guarentee that Pac is going to make it past Marquez. looking past a fighter that you barley got past the first time is not the way to go. Marquez has a good chance of winning this fight.
Have you seen Hatton between fights? What does it matter if the guy turns into a doughboy between fights? You do realize that you don't kill fat cells when you lose weight, only shrink them, that's why he baloons in between fights and most people yo yo diet, fat cells like to be at a certain size. Hatton is not a powerhouse or a one punch KO artist. I would bet any amount of money that Manny hits harder. I doubt the fight would happen, but if it did, I wouldn't be suprised if Pac knocked him out at all.
There are big fights out there for Manny even if he loses to Marquez, hell Manny would have won the first fight if that one judge knew how to score a 3 knockdown round.
Pac comes into the ring 144 fight night, is the same height as Hatton, with a much longer reach, so there's not as big of a size advantage as you might think. Collazo was/is not a big power puncher and he had Hatton down and almost out in their fight. Ricky was able to foul and smother Tszyu enough so that Kostya could not land hard, clean punches on Ricky's mug.
Manny turned pro at 16, at Light Flyweight. At 16, Floyd was winning a golden gloves title at guess what weight? Light Flyweight.
Pac's 29 now, and like Floyd has matured into a much heavier build than when he first started.
If PAC really fought Hatton at 140, he would just be blown up and slow. hes just coming up from junior lightweight and he would be fighting a man that is a natural junior welterweight that blows up to 185 in between fights? i just cant see PAC doing well at all in this fight. he would just get bullied and muscled around the ring like a rag doll. even if he does come in at 144, hes still past his weight that hes suppose to be at. i dont think that there would be any point in me watching it if this fight DID happen. Hattons power would be devestating to PAC. just look at the Mayweather/Hatton fight, Floyd has not got a stoppge in about 2 years and once he fought a fighter that was blown up (Hatton) he showed power. i see the same result but worse if Hatton and Pac fought. matter of fact, there is no guarentee that Pac is going to make it past Marquez. looking past a fighter that you barley got past the first time is not the way to go. Marquez has a good chance of winning this fight.
One straight right from Mayweather was enough to open up Hatton...
So sssssssssshhhhhh....
And are people still arguing that Manny would beat Mayweather? I haven't read the whole thread, but if people on here ACTUALLY still think this, it could be the most retarded bunch of ass hats I have encountered. I'm mean, really, the I.Q of a piece of toast.
The thread is about the better, more effective punch, taking in to account their respective weight divisions. No one wants to see Pac, already up 5 weight divisions from where he won his first world title, jump up 3 more to fight Floyd. Floyd has at least 2 much more competitive fights at WW in Cotto and Williams.
one hit of the manila ice and you get knocked out. it would take 100 mayweather rights to maybe produce some swelling.
One straight right from Mayweather was enough to open up Hatton...
So sssssssssshhhhhh....
And are people still arguing that Manny would beat Mayweather? I haven't read the whole thread, but if people on here ACTUALLY still think this, it could be the most retarded bunch of ass hats I have encountered. I'm mean, really, the I.Q of a piece of toast.
actually yes., Hatton has a huge size advantage over Pac so Pacs shots wont be all that hard to him. If Hatton could take Collozo and Tyszu's, he could take Pacquiaos shots easily. Pac started his career at straw weight or something like that.
Pac comes into the ring 144 fight night, is the same height as Hatton, with a much longer reach, so there's not as big of a size advantage as you might think. Collazo was/is not a big power puncher and he had Hatton down and almost out in their fight. Ricky was able to foul and smother Tszyu enough so that Kostya could not land hard, clean punches on Ricky's mug.
Manny turned pro at 16, at Light Flyweight. At 16, Floyd was winning a golden gloves title at guess what weight? Light Flyweight.
Pac's 29 now, and like Floyd has matured into a much heavier build than when he first started.
Hatton ate what, a hundred of those straight rights from Floyd, without a hell of a lot of effect. Do you really think he would take that many flush lefts from Pacquiao, especially factoring in the weight difference?
actually yes., Hatton has a huge size advantage over Pac so Pacs shots wont be all that hard to him. If Hatton could take Collozo and Tyszu's, he could take Pacquiaos shots easily. Pac started his career at straw weight or something like that.
Floyds straight right is better. he is not one demsenional like Pac so people do not expect the lead right, hes not predictible. Pacquiao's straight left can be figured out and countered because he IS predictible.
Hatton ate what, a hundred of those straight rights from Floyd, without a hell of a lot of effect. Do you really think he would take that many flush lefts from Pacquiao, especially factoring in the weight difference?
Floyd's is much less predictable and efficient I think, though Pacquiao uses his straight left better now than he did in past fights like his first with Marqeuz, where he pretty much used it all fight long and started getting countered left and right with it.
Any comparison is ridiculous in my mind - but we all have our own way of looking at things. Pacquiao has built himself into one of the greatest in the game almost entirely based on his straight. It's fucking special.
You'd have to have a fucking hole in your head to see it any other way.
A hole in the head doesn't leave much room for seeing things my own way.
Straight left. His 'Manilla Ice' sucks.
And btw- he throws one hundred MORE, too. Not as successful. That should factor in.
Any comparison is ridiculous in my mind - but we all have our own way of looking at things. Pacquiao has built himself into one of the greatest in the game almost entirely based on his straight. It's fucking special.
You'd have to have a fucking hole in your head to see it any other way.
To me, better means, how much damage the punch does to the opponent; effective punching. Given that, Pac's punches, all of them, are "better" than Floyd's. Don't overrate Floyd's offensiveness. He is defensive fighter who brings his offense on late after his opponents tire.
a "better" punch should also take into account how much it is used, how accurate you are, how effective you are at using it, and so forth.
Pacquiao can do with one straight what it takes Floyd one hundred.
Straight left. His 'Manilla Ice' sucks.
And btw- he throws one hundred MORE, too. Not as successful. That should factor in.
sorry, floyd's right jab is more effective my bad.
You can either seriously refute it, or just stop being so damn cynical.
Not straight always but more like looping.
Floyd's right hand is easily the best punch in boxing. And it's his best punch even better than his left hook which might be like the second best punch in boxing. Even better than Pac's straight left both punches are.
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