WTF is ring generalship???

would any fans like to see each of the judge's cards after each round? it has its negatives and positives. positive is it could possibly lead to more action if fighters know what they need to do to win. but on the flip side, the fighter thats ahead would decide to cruise which could lead for a less exciting fight. Fuck iit! boxing needs a commision! instead of talking about whose ducking who and who should get a bigger cut, etc..us fans need to be screaming for a commission so we can get the fights we want to see more often and at the right time. a "truly credible" commission wouldnt be able to patrol all the cheating and ducking and whatever. thats what we, as fans should be discussing NO, I hate it, makes the fight boring being that you know after a few rounds what the probable outcome is.

would any fans like to see each of the judge's cards after each round? it has its negatives and positives. positive is it could possibly lead to more action if fighters know what they need to do to win. but on the flip side, the fighter thats ahead would decide to cruise which could lead for a less exciting fight. Fuck iit! boxing needs a commision! instead of talking about whose ducking who and who should get a bigger cut, etc..us fans need to be screaming for a commission so we can get the fights we want to see more often and at the right time. a "truly credible" commission wouldnt be able to patrol all the cheating and ducking and whatever. thats what we, as fans should be discussing

I've always considered fighters like Winky,Hopkins and Mayweather masters of ring generalship.......James Toney too.

Carl Teh Cat Thompson Was Behind In All Scorecards Before Beating Haye Evn Though He Was Fighting His Fight...... Ring Generalshi Is Teh Most Dubious Thing To Score Imo.....thats Why I Prefer The Other 3 Criteria To Score A Fight....

yea i can tell u know ur boxing. but if its a factor that u can really tell only at the end of a fight, why is it a criteria in judging? judges, judge each round individually, therefore if they dont realize whose actually in control of a fight until rd 6 or 7 they may have misjudged the first half of the fight! That's why it's so hard to judge a fight, some people see it one way and the others, well. I guess you sort of have to look at how the fighters are reacting to the action. I've only seen a few rounds of the Hatton fight so I can't say as far as that fight.

its that special feeling when you look into your girl's eye and she looks back and you both get lost in the atmosphere of love. yea but in ur case she straps on and bends u over the back of the couch and makes u her "Pretty Boy"...now thats ring generalship for your ass!!!! I wanted this to be an informative thread..no BS

its that special feeling when you look into your girl's eye and she looks back and you both get lost in the atmosphere of love.

The thing is that sometimes you don't know or can't see it untill after the fight is over. If you look at Ali / Foreman it looks as if Foreman is in charge of the fight but in the end you see that Ali was being a ring general by out smarting him and making him run himself out of gas. Foreman claims that he set Micheal Morrer up in the same fashion. He made Moorer think that he didn't have as much power as people have said and let Morrer become overconfident which led to the knockout. yea i can tell u know ur boxing. but if its a factor that u can really tell only at the end of a fight, why is it a criteria in judging? judges, judge each round individually, therefore if they dont realize whose actually in control of a fight until rd 6 or 7 they may have misjudged the first half of the fight!

yea but what if the other guy is beating u at your own style? how can u get credit for having somone fight ur style of fight yet he's is being more effective at it? what if during the fight Fighter A realizes that he can changce his game plan Fighter B's style and beat him at it? yet fans and judges see that Fighter A is fighting Fighter B's style of fight. therefore if its a close round then Fighter b gets the benefit of the doubt(therefore winning the round) b/c he is "fighting he style of fight". does anyone see anything wrong with this? The thing is that sometimes you don't know or can't see it untill after the fight is over. If you look at Ali / Foreman it looks as if Foreman is in charge of the fight but in the end you see that Ali was being a ring general by out smarting him and making him run himself out of gas. Foreman claims that he set Micheal Morrer up in the same fashion. He made Moorer think that he didn't have as much power as people have said and let Morrer become overconfident which led to the knockout.

see thats what im saying! At no point did hatton seem like he was "controlling" the fight. he landed a couple of good shots during the infighting early on, but was he really controlling the action?he had a lot of movement which gives the impression that he was doing a lot but really he tired himself out with a lot of "ineffective aggression". so again, if he was controlling the tempo of the fight(fighting his style and pace) how come he got tired so fast? was he really fighting the way PBF wanted him to fight? was the fight really going the way PBF wanted it to go? b/c to me hatton didnt pace himself at all and fot KO'd for his miscalculations i dont think pbf had an idea of how he wanted the fight to go... but instead... he knew hatton was gonna rush him and try and bully him... pbfs plan was just to adapt to whatever hatton did and then beat him at it... basically.. just be floyd

see thats what im saying! At no point did hatton seem like he was "controlling" the fight. he landed a couple of good shots during the infighting early on, but was he really controlling the action?he had a lot of movement which gives the impression that he was doing a lot but really he tired himself out with a lot of "ineffective aggression". so again, if he was controlling the tempo of the fight(fighting his style and pace) how come he got tired so fast? was he really fighting the way PBF wanted him to fight? was the fight really going the way PBF wanted it to go? b/c to me hatton didnt pace himself at all and fot KO'd for his miscalculations

whoever is winning the fight... is winning the fight .. period... if at the point fighter b changes his style and beats fighter A.... fighter B now is winning and is using HIS ring generalship to dictate the fight... kinda like floyd hatton.. at first hatton was dictating.. as soon as floyd figured it out.. he flipped it on him... and used his style to win

yea but what if the other guy is beating u at your own style? how can u get credit for having somone fight ur style of fight yet he's is being more effective at it? what if during the fight Fighter A realizes that he can changce his game plan Fighter B's style and beat him at it? yet fans and judges see that Fighter A is fighting Fighter B's style of fight. therefore if its a close round then Fighter b gets the benefit of the doubt(therefore winning the round) b/c he is "fighting he style of fight". does anyone see anything wrong with this?

Can someone tell me what ring generalship is? b/c it seems to me that most people equate it to a fighter "supposedly" fighting "his" fight. Like in the Hatton/PBF bout, the commentators and fans on here keep saying that hatton controlled the fight by doing what he wanted to do and so forth. they would say hatton controlled the "real estate" and wanted it to be rough. but whose to say that, that wasnt PBF's plan coming into the fight. maybe his plan was to stay in close, take his time and slowly dismantle Hatton?(which is what he did) just b/c he hadnt done it in previous fights people are saying that hatton made him fight that way. i disagree! he knew he was stronger than hatton and knew hatton would tire in the later rounds. so PBF worked his game plan to perfection. but hatton was awarded a couple of early rounds(by his fans) for effective aggression and ring generalship?? in the first three rounds hatton didnt land 20 punches, yet Letterman gave him 2 of the 3 rounds! and he said it was b/c hatton was controlling the tempo of the fight...oh really if he was controlling the tempo of the fight, why was he slowing down as early as rd 5? just want to understand how fans judge these 2 aspects when it comes to judging a fight controlling the fight.. making the other fighter do what you want them to do... making them move the way you want them to move... controlling the fight

It's being in control, cutting off the ring,making them come to you, It's everything that shows that you are in control of the fight so it is more like, making the other man fight your fight rather then 'fighting your fight'.