Calzaghe vs Hopkins will be similar to Calzaghe vs Bika!!!!!

no matter what, these are on record and they happened. Oscar beat Sturm and Tarver beat Jones weather you like it or not. its clear that you have nothing left so..... So you are happy with a paper chump? That is your prerogative. I just can't accept it. I can see through the hype. As sad as it is I had to accept that Ricardo Hattono the Mancunian Mexican was short on his promises too. But the difference between me & you is.... I accept the truth. the truth is that Hopkins holds the record for title defences at midleweight and is a hall of famer.

WHO DID JOPPY BEAT WHO IS RENOWNED AT MW? he was champion Who did he beat to be a champion? WHO DID TITO BEAT AT MW WHO IS RENOWNED? William Joppy WBA middleweight chapion at the time he beat him. Wba Trinket Holder so what? WHO DID OSCAR BEAT AT MW ? Felix Sturm. WBO middleweight title at the time that he beat him. DO YOU BELIEVE OSCAR WON??pure comedy! WHO DID HOPKINS BEAT HIS OWN SIZE WHO IS RENOWNED AND IN THEIR PRIME? AT ANY WEIGHT? Glen Johnson 3 time IBF lightheavyweight champ in the future YES HE BEAT A SHOT RJJ AND A NEVER THAT GOOD TARVER. Do you count the 3 Robert Allen defences as legit too? he stopped Allen once and the other one was a NC. no matter what you say, these results are facts, no matter how they turned out, Hopkins is great. double owned. SO VERY VERY WRONG:owned: :owned no matter what, these are on record and they happened. Oscar beat Sturm and Tarver beat Jones weather you like it or not. its clear that you have nothing left so.....

Glen Johnson had beaten a bunch of nobodies before Hopkins, and would go on to lose 8 of his next 14 fights before turning his career around. Hopkins win over Johnson means next to nothing. again, future 3 time IBF light HW champ

WHO DID HOPKINS BEAT HIS OWN SIZE WHO IS RENOWNED AND IN THEIR PRIME? AT ANY WEIGHT? Glen Johnson 3 time IBF lightheavyweight champ in the future Glen Johnson had beaten a bunch of nobodies before Hopkins, and would go on to lose 8 of his next 14 fights before turning his career around. Hopkins win over Johnson means next to nothing.

After watching more of Bika's fights he likes to take big swings with his right, Hopkins would be far, far more accurate. But also far, far less busy.

why is ur font so small? i cant read anything your saying

: WHO DID JOPPY BEAT WHO IS RENOWNED AT MW? he was champion WHO DID TITO BEAT AT MW WHO IS RENOWNED? William Joppy WBA middleweight chapion at the time he beat him. WHO DID OSCAR BEAT AT MW ? Felix Sturm. WBO middleweight title at the time that he beat him.WHO DID HOPKINS BEAT HIS OWN SIZE WHO IS RENOWNED AND IN THEIR PRIME? AT ANY WEIGHT? Glen Johnson 3 time IBF lightheavyweight champ in the future Do you count the 3 Robert Allen defences as legit too? he stopped Allen once and the other one was a NC. no matter what you say, these results are facts, no matter how they turned out, Hopkins is great. double owned. :owned: :owned

You just signed your own warrant. Thankyou for proving your entire argument to be worthless. You have failed to answer any of my questions. The reason being is that Borehard has NEVER beaten ANYONE his own size who was a true accomplished fighter in their prime. I can at least accept that you are too small minded to realise this. Therefore our time discussing the subject is over. At a guess I would say you are a Black man of the age 19-25. No racial slur here ..just an eductaed guess. what are you talking about? i have anwsered all of the questions you have asked me to awser. whats happening is that i broke you down and you have nothing else to critisize Hopkins about. and i have Calzaghes and Hopkins careers sets on DVD so i know the sport and do my research. i have told you everything that you wanted to know and named you the ''true accomplished'' fighters that he beat in his prime, you just have nothing else. oh and im not biased, black or not. sorry but :owned:

i dont see bhop doing much more than kessler! especially at 42 years old! he is not gonna deal well with joes size, speed, and work rate. bhop is not nearly active enough to even throw 1/2 as much as joe, so he has to knock him out cause he aint getting a ud! but this is boxing and anything can happen.

Are you trying to say Joppy was a real Class act at MW? WHO did Joppy beat? Seriously you are digging a hole here. Hopkins started his pro career in 1988. Roy Jones in 1989. So YET AGAIN your argument falls down. Step back and look objectively. Where is your excuse now? Joppy was world class, elite, a champ, and rated number 1 in the division and thats a pretty big accomplishment. Benrard had to wait until Joppy was past his prime and recked by Trinidad until he finally fought him because Joppy had so much skill in his prime and would have gave him fits. and when Roy and Hopkins fought, those were the days when Hopkins didn't have his ora down yet so he was still green. the Hopkins that fought Johnson had his ora down and was at his peak. he devoloped boxing skills and started to come in with ring smarts and game plans. now whats your excuse?

So if the same Calzaghe who murdered Lacy and convincingly beat Kessler was in that ring, it wouldnt have been any different? I can see where your coming from, and you do have a point, but Calzaghe was so far ahead of the rest of the top 10 that he didnt take 90% of his defenses seriously, by his own admission. Maybe "take them seriously" is the wrong phrase to use, "wasnt up for them" would be more appropriate for all of them apart from Bika, who he genuinely didnt take seriously. Something along the lines of "I just humiliated the only real challenger to my title, who the fuck is this guy?" i understand what you mean now. :)

Glen Johnson is HOF? Get a grip son. Andlike I asked you BEFORE! WHO did TITO defeat who was a RENOWNED CHAMP at Middleweight?As for Hopkins being young & Green against RJJ....he is 4 Years OLDER than RJJ. Please step outside your box and look in objectively. Ask yourself WHO Hopkins has beaten his own SIZE of any real Class. William Joppy was a force to be reckoned with, a champion, and still in his prime when Tito beat him. besides Hopkins, Joppy was the best MW when Tito beat him. does that anwser your question? and age means nothing in boxing. if you are younger than me and started your career before i did, i am still green and you are more experiencd. whats your excuse now?

Ya but from what i saw "and like i said i didnt see the whole fight" he was showing off. With his hands down and shit, then he was putting his face forward waiting for bika to punch him, its just strange and i really feel from those rounds that he wasnt talking it seriously. Calzaghe was acting stupid but i dont really think he took him as light as yall make it seem. if he took him light, why did he win every round.

So far Mucka...Hopkins only HOF wins were against Blown up Welters who had NO real resume at Middleweight. Please check Tito & Oscars Middleweight achievements and who they beat. Who did they beat who were renowned? Answer please! Do you really think Oscar beat Sturm? The FACT is Hopkins LOST to every true Middleweight he fought of real class. i.e Jermain Taylor & RJJ. Borehard was actually a LHW who boiled down to MW and fought NUMEROUS nobodies to acquire his "20" defences ...3 of which were to none other than HOF'er Robert Allen. I ask you this....... WHO on Borehards resume was REALLY World class and PRIME when he beat them? All I see is a record where a reasonable fighter lost to World class opposition who were truly equal in size. I await your answer. Glen Johnson and Trinidad was both undefeated when Hopkins stopped them both and Trinidad had a middleweight title when they fought. Hopkins was still young and green when he fought Roy and was past his prime when he fought Taylor. Prime Hopkins would have beaten Taylor and was more offensive. whats your excuse now?

He didn't take the fight as serious as he should,no. Well, more than anything I think he was trying to show off to the american audience as it was his first HBO fight (I think?) and Bika had other ideas. HBO bought this fight on the back of his Lacy victory. Calzaghe took this fight about as seriously as people take my "Sakio Bika P4P#1" comment. He was dropping his hands and tempting Bika in before picking him off. He also took a few good shots flush on the chin. My dad summed it up the best when he said: "Everywhere in the world apart from America they are known as boxers, in America they are called fighters" He boxed Lacy to pieces, then in his very next fight he had a dirty fight with a strong opponent, knowing full well people in America would be watching. I watched some of the cal vs bika fight and i actually thought calzaghe was showing off?! I even read an article that claimed that warren was upset at cal for not taking the fight seriously.... So if calzaghe would have taken the fight seriously, would the fight be as close as some people say? Sorry i watched some parts of the fight thats why im not really sure if calzaghe struggled or what, but by watching the early rounds im pretty sure that he was showing off a bit. Bika was a top 10 super middleweight and fighting for Calzaghe's belt. why wouldn't Calzaghe take it seriously? and just because Calzaghe didn't take it seriously does not take away from Bika muscling Calzaghe and throwing him off his game.

Hopkins is so OVERRATED. Bika would quite easily be big enough and strong enough to hang with Borenard. In fact Bika would possibly with the exception of a tired old Overrated Tarver be the biggest and strongest guy Borehard had ever faced. Codrington has Power to worry most people too. Even if he has a chin made of RJJ China. Don't forget Bika is a Strong SMW who could probably fight at LHW. He isn't a blown up mexican or Puerto Rican Welterweight. Hopkins has NEVER defeated a renowned fighter outside of Middleweight who weren't even true middleweights. His Best wins outside Midlleweight were against the Blown up Winky Wright at 170 & a tired never that good Tarver. How ANYONE can think a man who throws 20 punches a round can beat Cazaghe must be seriously deluded and actually accept Borehards resume as that of an all time great. I know he is american and you americans are brainwashed from Nursery to salute the flag and swear an oath but surely ....you MUST question Borehards achievements and ability. Then again... thats pretty derespectful IMO. Bernard Hopkins set the record for title defenses at MW and has hall of famers on his resume. and i would pick the Tito that fought Hopkins to beat Bika. Tito had a middleweight title when they fought and was undefeated and still a pretty big threat. Bika struggled with Donnie Mcurry as well as Codrington and these are not even elite super middleweights. its messed up when you pick a journeyman like Bika to beat an all time great like Hopkins. I just cant see it. Hopkins would use ring smarts and break Bika down mentally and win by wide UD IMO. Bika is no where near the level of any Hopkins, prime or now.

He didn't take the fight as serious as he should,no. Well, more than anything I think he was trying to show off to the american audience as it was his first HBO fight (I think?) and Bika had other ideas.

Unless Bika learns to box and takes Hopkins to pieces! Future P4P#1: SAKIO BIKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sakio Bika is the best fouler in the world. He sets out to lose a couple of points just to hurt his opponent lol, He's a pro! LMAO! :)........

Sakio Bika is the best fouler in the world. He sets out to lose a couple of points just to hurt his opponent lol, He's a pro!

And he cut him for the first and so far only time. Hopkins is pretty strong himself. He cut Jermain Taylor and Winky Wright on purpose.