Nacho Beristain said:

According to Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristain said that by making Pacquiao a better fighter, he is now a lot more predictable and thats why Marquez is gonna beat him easier this time... do you guys agree??? what do you think abput Pacquiaos transformation over the last few years? Fuck Nacho!!! In my book, Nacho is an idiot! This is the same guy who advised JMM not to take the $750,000 rematch purse with Pacquaio and this manager/trainer brought JMM to Indonesia to fight for $30,000! So, whatever Nacho sez is pure BS... WTF? JMM lost to MAB if not for that idiot referee, he almost got KTFO. So, how could JMM beat Pacquiao easily according to Nacho?

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Marquez has become more aggressive in his recent fights which I think favors pac and we also saw how juarez was able to land some clean shots. Just imagine pac landing those clean shots. And yes, juarez is predictable.

To be honest, what also make you think that JMM last few fights look good than Pac last fights? The lost to Chris John, not able to avenge it? The busted face even though he won on his last opponents? or his knockdown against Barrera who simply i thought Barrera won those fight with slim margin. :banana: yeah i wont even bother to reply after that...

pacman went threw a marco like transformation, but i dont think manny will make the transformation from brawler to skilled fighter like marco. pacmans best shot is to try to go at jmm with his speed and try to end it early, if he tries to outskill jmm easy fight for jmm

i think nacho has a point becuase pacquiao's original style is what defined him, he was a storm...and now that he has learned other things, he has lost some of that fire that made him manny pacquiao, and i think thats what's gonna come as a disadvantage on fight night.....becauselets face it, pac hasnt looked as good as in the first barrera fight in years(shot morales aside)...not even with jorge solis and an older barrera... To be honest, what also make you think that JMM last few fights look good than Pac last fights? The lost to Chris John, not able to avenge it? The busted face even though he won on his last opponents? or his knockdown against Barrera who simply i thought Barrera won those fight with slim margin. :banana:

I also noticed in Marquez's recent fights that he getting more prone to eating straight lefts...

I disagree, Its been too many years Marquez is not the same fighter he used to be. He is still really good don't get me wrong but he isn't as fast or powerful as he once was. He has certainly lost a step and even Nacho admit it.

yeah he also made a mistake giving pacquiao more than 3 rounds..... They should get better experienced and credible judges this time. It happens that awarding of rounds during the fight is very subjective, and judges vary, but it was clear that Pac was not given enough credit for the three kd's of the first round. That one point was crucial which resulted in the controversial draw. It's funny, but Pac fans should be raising this issue instead of JMM fans, don't you think?

Let us all not forget that this is the Pac who is now EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO HIT. Ask Mab and he'll tell you Pac is as elusive as ever with his quick reflexes. what the fuck are you talking about, pacman is as hittable as they come he wasnt any less hittable against barrera

It was Pac who got robbed of a win the first time. One of the judges admitted himself that he made a lapse in scoring. yeah he also made a mistake giving pacquiao more than 3 rounds.....

actually no i dont think pac will rush in but he likes to throw....the moment he throws a jab Marquez will lunge forward with hard counters and will land the better shots....i think the risk for marquez is pretty much getting even older overnight(i dont think so but it could happen), a one punch turn around for manny(doubt it even more...)or a robbery because pacquiao is flashier even if hes not effetctive and marquez is(kind of like JMM vs Chris John...and i see this as a very likely escenario)...

...marquez is actually used to guys fighting him like that because marquez is much more experienced at waiting and countering ....i think it will be a pretty boring fight that marquez will edge like 9 rounds to 3 becuase he will land the better shots in competitive rounds(but theres a risk he could get robbed...) It was Pac who got robbed of a win the first time. One of the judges admitted himself that he made a lapse in scoring.

Exactly. If Nacho is saying Pac is PREDICTABLE. Then he better train his man JMM like hell or else it will be an early night for him. Let us all remember that Pac said himself that when he saw Barrera running too much he decided to just pick his spots and win rounds. People are criticizing it because Pac did not beat up MAB. And it was a somewhat boring fight. But let us also remember MAB got schooled big time. He won 2 rounds at the most when Pac decided he will just lay back and pick his spots. Nacho is way out of line here. And they better not take that seriously or it will be a certain bust. lol pick his spots???????he was doing the sam ething he does always but with zero intensity because he was more worried on not getting hit...pretty much waiting till he had the chance to land a pot shot and a flurry here and there...marquez is actually used to guys fighting him like that because marquez is much more experienced at waiting and countering ....i think it will be a pretty boring fight that marquez will edge like 9 rounds to 3 becuase he will land the better shots in competitive rounds(but theres a risk he could get robbed...)

According to Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristain said that by making Pacquiao a better fighter, he is now a lot more predictable and thats why Marquez is gonna beat him easier this time... do you guys agree??? what do you think abput Pacquiaos transformation over the last few years? I think he is spot on, ive been saying for ages, pacquiao throws the same punch over and over again and barrera did well against him 2nd time around in spots, im leaning towards marquez if this fight happens.

while beristain is an awesome trainer - pac is anything but predictable.

i think nacho has a point becuase pacquiao's original style is what defined him, he was a storm...and now that he has learned other things, he has lost some of that fire that made him manny pacquiao, and i think thats what's gonna come as a disadvantage on fight night.....becauselets face it, pac hasnt looked as good as in the first barrera fight in years(shot morales aside)...not even with jorge solis and an older barrera...

If you really look at it he didnt look that great against Barrera and Solis, I dont know why everybody keeps on saying how much better he looks other then the last two fights against Morales he Hasnt looked as good as the 1st fight with Barrera.

More predictable than Pac's jab jab STRAIGHT LEFT combo he played out against Marquez? I disagree. well he keeps doing that....but with a lot less intensity and explosiveness......and is trying punches that he isnt used to throwing......i think thats what nacho meant....that that will play to manny's disadvantage...