Ok, let's say Floyd wins convincingly against Hatton, and completely dominates him, and proves to the world why he is the real deal, no 1p4p fighter in the world period, that he's a class abover everybody else,
Will you cynics give him the credit that he deserves, and will you see him as an All time great? if not the greatest within the last 30 years?
Mayweathe5r doesnt think anyone deserves to be in the ring with him.
Its called trash talk..god!!!
theres a difference between trash talk and basically acting in a way that everyone expects you to do. people say that he doesnt fight the best available, he admits it. easy as that.
Imo if he beats the guys I've mentioned he's more or less done a good enough job to be up there. Certainly to be the greatest fighter of this era. But in all honesty I really want him to lose because I dont like him. All the all time greats are popular, Floyd's a panto villian or just a heel. I
I agree with this! he says he wants/or is the greatest of ALL time, so basically he has to beat all the elites at welter. I'd leave Pavlik out of that he doesn't have to beat him to be the greatest of all time the man is going to be at supermiddle eventually. Hatton,Cotto,Williams if he does that you'd have to put him up there with the ATG's. If the man wasn't such a cock I'm sure he'd be up there already, but because he is most of us can only say he is the greatest boxer in the world :luvbed: . We can't put him with our all time greats because....we don't like him. It's human nature unfortunately.
Floyd fans can bitch about this but at the end of the day the man has an irritating personality. You've got like your sporting heroes for fuck sake.
Floyd not being with the ATGs has nothing to do with whether we like him or not, it's because he hasn't beaten ANY greats. He hasn't DOMINATED any weightclass for a lengthy period of time. And picking and choosing paper champs does not a great make.
Everyone respects what he's done. The question is will he be the greatest of all time. He needs to beat everyone thats good enough to face him.
I agree with this! he says he wants/or is the greatest of ALL time, so basically he has to beat all the elites at welter. I'd leave Pavlik out of that he doesn't have to beat him to be the greatest of all time the man is going to be at supermiddle eventually. Hatton,Cotto,Williams if he does that you'd have to put him up there with the ATG's. If the man wasn't such a cock I'm sure he'd be up there already, but because he is most of us can only say he is the greatest boxer in the world :luvbed: . We can't put him with our all time greats because....we don't like him. It's human nature unfortunately.
Floyd fans can bitch about this but at the end of the day the man has an irritating personality. You've got like your sporting heroes for fuck sake.
Mayweather's claim to be the Greatest of All Time won't be justified by wins over
DLH, Hatton and Judah. He needs to beat the best his division has to offer for me to even consider him to be in front of RJJ and Whitaker as the best fighter of this era much less of All Time. He hasn't done that at Welterweight yet. No is the answer to the question of the original post.
If he fights Cotto and wins yes then I'll shut up permanently.
People keep raising the bar. If he beats Cotto, he has to beat Williams, he beats Williams, he'll have to beat Spinks, he beats Spinks, he has to beat Pavlik. You people are a joke. If you can't respect someone who's accomplished more than you and has worked harder than you to do it (or at least respect what he's done), then you don't respect yourself.
Beating Ricky Hatton doesn't make him the greatest fighter in the last thirty years. Do you rememeber when Leonard beat Hagler? Any of Roy Jones's fights? Do you remember Holyfield's early career?
This will be a very good win, because it's against an undefeated, two-division champion. BUt don't get carried away.
I agree. It's not that deep.
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I understand that some people don't like his style and that is fine with me because I like it and thats all that matters to me. But I hate it when people like you come up with bullshit figures to downgrade PBF. You reply proves exactly why what you just said was bullshit because you didn't even reply about how many times he has actually gotten booed. No need to reply because I'm about to learn how to put foolish people on ignore.
How can anyone give an objective assessment of how many times someone has been booed in a fight.
You asked that question
I have booed him in his last 23 fights, is the number 23?
Beating Ricky Hatton doesn't make him the greatest fighter in the last thirty years. Do you rememeber when Leonard beat Hagler? Any of Roy Jones's fights? Do you remember Holyfield's early career?
This will be a very good win, because it's against an undefeated, two-division champion. BUt don't get carried away.
your problem is this, you cannot face reality.
Just accept the fact that some people don`t like Floyd because he is boring.
Dont make stupid comments about people hating Floyd because of his mouth when he has been booed in his fights
I understand that some people don't like his style and that is fine with me because I like it and thats all that matters to me. But I hate it when people like you come up with bullshit figures to downgrade PBF. You reply proves exactly why what you just said was bullshit because you didn't even reply about how many times he has actually gotten booed. No need to reply because I'm about to learn how to put foolish people on ignore.
No need in talking to you about this anymore because that is complete bullshit. 15 out of 38 fights thats damn near half PBF fights. I will tell how that is bullshit because before he really moved in to the higher weight classes where his power was greatly decimated PBF was 27 -0, 20 KO's so if you add 11 more fights to that you telling me that he got booed probably more than 15 times. Yeah you really know what the fuck you talking about:nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
your problem is this, you cannot face reality.
Just accept the fact that some people don`t like Floyd because he is boring.
Dont make stupid comments about people hating Floyd because of his mouth when he has been booed in his fights
He's been booed many times, i don't have an exact number as I missed most of his early career, up to 15 or so fights. But i would imagine its in double figures.
people like trash talking if you back it up
No need in talking to you about this anymore because that is complete bullshit. 15 out of 38 fights thats damn near half PBF fights. I will tell how that is bullshit because before he really moved in to the higher weight classes where his power was greatly decimated PBF was 27 -0, 20 KO's so if you add 11 more fights to that you telling me that he got booed probably more than 15 times. Yeah you really know what the fuck you talking about:nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
Out of 38 fights how many times was he actually booed?
He's been booed many times, i don't have an exact number as I missed most of his early career, up to 15 or so fights. But i would imagine its in double figures.
people like trash talking if you back it up
I agree that PBF is not underrated the thing is that too many people judge his in ring ablities based on their dislike of him outside the ring. Which is very stupid.
Why do fans boo him when he fights if its purely his mouth that people dislike?
You can't get a higher accolade than almost universal recognition as the p4p number one until your career is over. I'm sick of Mayweather fans playing the hard-done-by card about Floyd's recognition. He isn't underrated by anyone, just chill out.
I agree that PBF is not underrated the thing is that too many people judge his in ring abilities based on their dislike of him outside the ring. Which is very stupid. Its like a religious fanatic saying that since Tom Brady has a baby out of wedlock he is not a good quaterback.