How the Hell has no one mentioned Lou Duva? He's one of the greatest in my book!!No one's mentioned (until now) Jack Blackburn (Joe Louis) either... Failure to remember is a shortcoming of the poster(s), not the trainer(s).
Nominees:
Angelo Dundee
Yancey Durham
Ray Arcel
Manny Steward
Eddie Futch
Teddy Atlas
Cus D'Amato
Good list, though you could argue Dundee had a ton of talent to start with in his top fighters.One could also argue that Dundee - at least in part - could be responsible for the fine-tuning of those raw talents.
Nominees:
Angelo Dundee
Yancey Durham
Ray Arcel
Manny Steward
Eddie Futch
Teddy Atlas
Cus D'Amato
How the Hell has no one mentioned Lou Duva? He's one of the greatest in my book!!
i don't if you're being sarcastic or what. but if you're serious, I agree. McGirt brought out Gatti's boxing ability, which was virtually non-existant throughout his career. But of course, not even God could've trained Gatti to beat the likes of DLH and Floyd.
Gatti boxed VERY VERY well against Tracy Harris Patterson back in, I think, 1995
I say that Scully because he teaches technique that is very unique and it is proving to be successful at the highest level of competition , its like I said in my post , I admire people that are innovative , anybody can follow trends not anybody can change them ,,,,, the other side of this is the fact that through modern communication like the internet and mass coverage its harder to stand out in the modern era than years ago , greatness can also be based on your abilities , recognized great achievments are harder to gather today in sport as they can just get lost in the crowd .
But who is it succesful with? Other than his son, who ROGER developed in the pro stages, who has he actually made a big difference with? Hanshaw? Oscar? I dont think so at all. The style? Nobody other than Floyd Jr. has done anything good with that "style"
Nominees:
Angelo Dundee
Yancey Durham
Ray Arcel
Manny Steward
Eddie Futch
Teddy Atlas
Cus D'Amato
Good list, though you could argue Dundee had a ton of talent to start with in his top fighters.
But McCall won that fight because he had a lucky punch, more than improving his skills
Watch the fight again and listen to what McCall says during the break after the 1st round, he says exactly what punch he will take out Lewis with. Despite what Bert Sugar tries to imply, it WASN'T a lucky punch.
of the modern era my vote is Floyd snr , like him or hate him as a person matters little , he has proven to be a great trainer of fighters
I hear that a lot and for the life of me I can't figure out what would make anyone say that. He has "proven" to be a "great" trainer???? GREAT is by far the most overused word in professional sports.... but either way, IMO to say Floyd Sr. based on what he has done as a trainer so far, to say he is "great" is very very very VERY premature. If he can be considered great...then there are WAY TOO MANY great ones around then.
Well Emanuel Steward took a club fighter in Oliver McCall and taught him to beat Lennox Lewis, then made Lewis better in his 30s than he was in his 20s. I'd say Eddie Futch though, guy trained something like 32 world champs.
But McCall won that fight because he had a lucky punch, more than improving his skills
Who did the most with the least talent ?
Well Emanuel Steward took a club fighter in Oliver McCall and taught him to beat Lennox Lewis, then made Lewis better in his 30s than he was in his 20s. I'd say Eddie Futch though, guy trained something like 32 world champs.
That's hard to say of all-time because Im sure all trainers have had success and failure, but as of now my favorite trainer is Nacho Beristain. His fighters are agressive, but with good technique and boxing skills.