Was Cotto More Than You Expected?

Kind of a tough question. I knew Cotto could do what he did, just wasnt sure if he could be able to do it against Mosley. Actually; Mosley impressed me a little more than Cotto did, and here is why. From the 9th round on, Cotto was backing up and Mosley was pressuring him. I thought Cotto backed up cause he thought he was ahead. After watching the fight again; I realized that Cotto wasnt backing up cause he wanted, he backed up cause Mosley made him. That was what impressed me the most from the whole fight. Cotto was clearly winning the fight up till the 8th round, and you could see in Mosley's face that he was tired and fatigued, while Cotto looked fresher. Nevertheless, Mosley(like the warrior he is) gave everything he had and took the fight to Cotto. Cotto was saved because he can adapt and is not one-dimensional like a lot of people think he is. He can fight going backwards, and he can counter punch. Thats what gave him the 11th round. What impressed me most of Cotto and what I dint expect was that even though Mosley neutralized Cotto's body punches, Cotto was able to beat him anyway. Cotto used his jab very effectively; but more than that, he adapted to his opponents weaknesses. When he saw his body punches and his left hooks werent there, he capitalized on Mosley with his jab and with his right hand. He dint rely on his strenght's, he took what Mosley gave him. Cotto is a very smart fighter, thats what impressed me the most.

no. i used to take shit early on because i said i thought he could beat everyone around 140/147. i have been following his career for awhile and shit like the sosa fight just wowed me. cotto is for real.

What's the name of that chick with the fat ass?

Funny you saying that. Yeah, I understand bro... it just that you made these posts interesting with all the flaming. Tell that to the cockroaches who are still under the refrigerator. My e-thug crushes Cotto's fight game. RAWR. Happy?

I have my own relationship with the fighters. I don't take none of this personal between posters. That's why I go hard on anyone who tries to disrespect a comrade over a fighter. We're the ones that's here. Some people take that shit too far. I'm not a fanboy. I'm a fan. Funny you saying that. Yeah, I understand bro... it just that you made these posts interesting with all the flaming.

A rematch could be pretty cool, but Cotto is busy I'm sure. Good words. I dont think Shane should call for a rematch, he seems to have a rematch curse of getting beat again. Except with Oscar de la Panties, but then again, he's a drag, so it dont count.

I don't disagree at all. Shane did look off, as far as technique and timing were concerned. It felt like I was in the twilight zone man. It looked and felt weird. We also have to remember though, shane hadn't fought since february, and especially at this stage of his career, sparring is no substitute for the realities of a genuine fight. Directly after the fight, due to the fact that shane's timing etc were off I thought he should retire immediately. I didn't even entertain the thought of a rematch. Now though, u can call me crazy but I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch in the relatively immediate future if cotto can't land fights with either floyd or margarito. exactly how i feel man....specially in regards to seeing shane in that condition, it was weird as fuck...i felt like empty....

I don't disagree at all. Shane did look off, as far as technique and timing were concerned. It felt like I was in the twilight zone man. It looked and felt weird. We also have to remember though, shane hadn't fought since february, and especially at this stage of his career, sparring is no substitute for the realities of a genuine fight. Directly after the fight, due to the fact that shane's timing etc were off I thought he should retire immediately. I didn't even entertain the thought of a rematch. Now though, u can call me crazy but I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch in the relatively immediate future if cotto can't land fights with either floyd or margarito. A rematch could be pretty cool, but Cotto is busy I'm sure. Good words.

Both excellent points. ^ But Hyperion, MightyMike, RWK, and others are vehement. I am too, really.. Believe me, I was all over what Shane was doing. He looked buzzed and spacy. There was a nice combo to start it off, but after that he was doing nothing but controlled flailing. He had no depth perception. His timing was awful. I was confused before Cotto did anything. I was lost before Shane landed his right hand.. I wasn't even hoping it would hurt Cotto. My focus was completely disrupted. I think Cotto was encouraged and confident once he realized Shane's condition, as much as Shane was challenged when he realized Cotto's. Something was wrong. I know they can see it. That's legitimately how it was. YEP. And then you have Cotto's peformance to pair with that.. Still close somehow though.. Cause Shane did kick into gear at times, and Cotto did kick his rear at times. I don't disagree at all. Shane did look off, as far as technique and timing were concerned. It felt like I was in the twilight zone man. It looked and felt weird. We also have to remember though, shane hadn't fought since february, and especially at this stage of his career, sparring is no substitute for the realities of a genuine fight. Directly after the fight, due to the fact that shane's timing etc were off I thought he should retire immediately. I didn't even entertain the thought of a rematch. Now though, u can call me crazy but I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch in the relatively immediate future if cotto can't land fights with either floyd or margarito.

Addison. I miss your e-thug ways. Stop being so damn nice. I have my own relationship with the fighters. I don't take none of this personal between posters. That's why I go hard on anyone who tries to disrespect a comrade over a fighter. We're the ones that's here. Some people take that shit too far. I'm not a fanboy. I'm a fan.

Or what he saw and/or felt weighed on his mind so heavily that it through him off completely. Not for nothing considering his age, and with all that was going, on it's surprising that he did so well. Using a basketball analogy, imagine as an opposing center anticipating a matchup with shaq, u prepare for his inside game (his strength) and logically expect him to be lousy from the line. You vehemently prepare for that, only to find out during the game, the guy is taking you off the dribble from the top of the key, hittin threes, and when u foul him and send him to the line he consistently knocks down his free throws. That's what this fight was like. Both excellent points. ^ But Hyperion, MightyMike, RWK, and others are vehement. I am too, really.. Believe me, I was all over what Shane was doing. He looked buzzed and spacy. There was a nice combo to start it off, but after that he was doing nothing but controlled flailing. He had no depth perception. His timing was awful. I was confused before Cotto did anything. I was lost before Shane landed his right hand.. I wasn't even hoping it would hurt Cotto. My focus was completely disrupted. I think Cotto was encouraged and confident once he realized Shane's condition, as much as Shane was challenged when he realized Cotto's. Something was wrong. I know they can see it. That's legitimately how it was. YEP. And then you have Cotto's peformance to pair with that.. Still close somehow though.. Cause Shane did kick into gear at times, and Cotto did kick his rear at times.

How could you say that Antonim? Felix Trinidad SR did good with Tito in his days. cito you know he was a lousy trainer,all he told tito was tito tira le el gancho hook this hook that

Addison. I miss your e-thug ways. Stop being so damn nice.

Abdullaev? Abdulleav ain't exactly Shane Mosley now is he?? Yeah. No Shane Mosley, but he is a gold medalist, was ok until Cotto retired him.

plain and simple fathers are lousy trainers. roy,judah and mosley were bless with ridiculous athletic ability. How could you say that Antonim? Felix Trinidad SR did good with Tito in his days.

Definately, I feel you on this whole situation. Mosley could have done that on friday or sunday I'm still thinking. But not saturday. Not saturday, november 11, 2007. :banghead: Maybe even that morning he could snap his punches, follow through on his shots, get proper timing.. I mean damn, his dad was telling him how to throw basic punches sometime around the 4th and the 8th if I remember correctly.. At least TWICE his trainer was having to give him generic fundamentals of punching. :wtf: He asked Shane how he was doing; "alright." Why he wasn't using his jab; "I don't know." Jack screamed at Shane before that rally at the end and fuck if he didn't wake up and starting fighting well! :crazy: It was weird. He wasn't shot or old. Or what he saw and/or felt weighed on his mind so heavily that it through him off completely. Not for nothing considering his age, and with all that was going, on it's surprising that he did so well. Using a basketball analogy, imagine as an opposing center anticipating a matchup with shaq, u prepare for his inside game (his strength) and logically expect him to be lousy from the line. You vehemently prepare for that, only to find out during the game, the guy is taking you off the dribble from the top of the key, hittin threes, and when u foul him and send him to the line he consistently knocks down his free throws. That's what this fight was like.

plain and simple fathers are lousy trainers. roy,judah and mosley were bless with ridiculous athletic ability. It's never good, I agree. Although I think Jack was solid. Shane was the one who was out of it. I'm expectant of Mosley's first public statements after he watches the tape and has some time to settle. Something will be said.

Definately, I feel you on this whole situation. Mosley could have done that on friday or sunday I'm still thinking. But not saturday. Not saturday, november 11, 2007. :banghead: Maybe even that morning he could snap his punches, follow through on his shots, get proper timing.. I mean damn, his dad was telling him how to throw basic punches sometime around the 4th and the 8th if I remember correctly.. At least TWICE his trainer was having to give him generic fundamentals of punching. :wtf: He asked Shane how he was doing; "alright." Why he wasn't using his jab; "I don't know." Jack screamed at Shane before that rally at the end and fuck if he didn't wake up and starting fighting well! :crazy: It was weird. He wasn't shot or old. plain and simple fathers are lousy trainers. roy,judah and mosley were bless with ridiculous athletic ability.

i dint care much about cottos gameplan, because i knew he could box and slug....but i dindt think he could do any of them to shane neither outbox him or out slug him...i thought shane was just too explosive and would overpower cotto with that, kind of like pavlik-taylor round 2 but shane would of course finish him...i knew shane was screwed if he tried to box-punxh becaus he doesnt have a jab....like i said shane from 2001 KO's Cotto in around 3...but it was not as bad a version of shane as to call him shot, MIguel did great..... Definately, I feel you on this whole situation. Mosley could have done that on friday or sunday I'm still thinking. But not saturday. Not saturday, november 11, 2007. :banghead: Maybe even that morning he could snap his punches, follow through on his shots, get proper timing.. I mean damn, his dad was telling him how to throw basic punches sometime around the 4th and the 8th if I remember correctly.. At least TWICE his trainer was having to give him generic fundamentals of punching. :wtf: He asked Shane how he was doing; "alright." Why he wasn't using his jab; "I don't know." Jack screamed at Shane before that rally at the end and fuck if he didn't wake up and starting fighting well! :crazy: It was weird. He wasn't shot or old.

I could say the same thing with that.. HaHa. Sorta leads us to another point doesn't it? But was not Cotto much FASTER and more dynamic than expected? NOBODY was talking that type of performance. Nobody. It was all the typical line about how Cotto would wear him down with bodypunching, ect. Same old story. There's was ZERO talk of Cotto out-Boxing, out-counterpunching, ect. His speed was very good no matter how much anyone will try to say Shane made him look fast.. Let's be realistic about this. i dint care much about cottos gameplan, because i knew he could box and slug....but i dindt think he could do any of them to shane neither outbox him or out slug him...i thought shane was just too explosive and would overpower cotto with that, kind of like pavlik-taylor round 2 but shane would of course finish him...i knew shane was screwed if he tried to box-punxh becaus he doesnt have a jab....like i said shane from 2001 KO's Cotto in around 3...but it was not as bad a version of shane as to call him shot, MIguel did great.....