FYI the Hopkins/Calzaghe fight will more than likely take place.
If Nard does in fact win, I'd like to hear first and foremost from you how he's the greatest middleweight of all time, let alone one of the top five depending where you slice him: Greatest P4P fighters of all time regardless of weight.
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I dont think you probably understand how many people said hopkins had no chance against a guy who was knocking the fuck out of people even at middlweight, trust me, in my opinion as a tito nuthugger, he was not blown up because he was actually fitting into the weight very well. Tito was simply expected to knock him out and move onto even bigger fights if possible, instead all of us puerto ricans had the shock of our lives, it wasnt until much later the "hopkins was too big" talk came about, because let me tell you, NOBODY was picking hopkins before that fight, NOBODY.
Excellent post, I'd like to see any person discredit this shit. Hopkins gets no credit at all for Trinidad or De La Hoya, Oscar I can understand a bit more (even though he went on to become a sucessful 154lbs fighter afterward), but Trinidad was fitting into that weight class perfectly.
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I'll leave Tito out of this for now, because, to tell the truth, I haven't even seen the fight. Let's look at the rest:
The Acting Amigo - "Ci, even my own mother said I had no fucking chance, Amigo. He was so much bigger, but he let me pitter-pat and did fuck all, until he gave me a love tap and I took a dive. Ci, ci!"
I dont think you probably understand how many people said hopkins had no chance against a guy who was knocking the fuck out of people even at middlweight, trust me, in my opinion as a tito nuthugger, he was not blown up because he was actually fitting into the weight very well. Tito was simply expected to knock him out and move onto even bigger fights if possible, instead all of us puerto ricans had the shock of our lives, it wasnt until much later the "hopkins was too big" talk came about, because let me tell you, NOBODY was picking hopkins before that fight, NOBODY.
calzaghe will retire that bum for good.
Yeah good to see a well informed boxing fan.
I'll leave Tito out of this for now, because, to tell the truth, I haven't even seen the fight. Let's look at the rest:
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Oh wait.............there's another.
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The stats don't lie.
Also people can talk about the Oscar and Tito being blown up thing all they want to. The fact is.........Oscar showed that he was competitive in the early rounds before getting broken down, and Tito was game as he ever is. It's just that Bernard Hopkins would fucking beat Felix Trinidad 10 out of 10 times in my book. A crafty, hard knocks cereberal fighter/boxer who uses angles and lateral movement against a (I don't mean to disrespect Tito, one of the ATG's) pretty much 1 dimensional fighter/slugger who was one of the best of all time at that style. He'd just fucking attack your ass and hunt you for round after round trying to land huge punches and open up. Obviously the boxer can exploit that
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Calzaghe will have to put on a preformance to beat Hopkins.
Bernard has been in their with southpaws before, and he has the size advantage, and was able to control the ring against a much bigger opponent in Tarver, I think Joe will have his work cut out for him.
Hopkins all the way for me, fuck his age
The lead right lands home alnight, and when Joe squares up after missing he gets punished quickly by a few successive old man punches and tied up
You need to lay off the crack, son.
You think if he beats The Blow then NSB won't be full of "I told you dat brit fa.ggut was overrated, lamo, pwn!"?
The same with Floyd-Paler... the Paler is just some pasty wrestling green teef, but if Floyd beats him it makes Floyd piss on Sugar Ray :confused:
Oscar De La Hoya-----------Biggest of superstars.
Felix Trinidad---------------Huge Superstar ATG Welterweight
Winky Wright---------------Superstar fighter not a household name.
Antonio Tarver-------------Superstar
Joe Calzaghe---------------Superstar ATG U.K. fighter.
Lay off the crack my ass. Nobody has ever beat that many stars before. There is no denying it........as much as you don't like him.
Only a retard would dismiss those accomplishments.
Oh and here comes the "They were blown up" jazz. LMFAO.
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You been overdosing on the tortilla donuts again, Semi Senor?
So if Bore Hard wins a unanimous headbutting decision as a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT that means I have to say as a MIDDLEWEIGHT he pisses all over the likes of Hagler and Sugar Ray?
I can respect what The Slop does but I'm not a big fan (Though largely post-Joppy).
God damn weight classes.
Bernard Hopkins is a better fighter than them, yes. If he does in fact beat Calzaghe. He to me.........will be one of the top 5 greatest fighters of all time.
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Was Oscar favourd to beat Hopkins??
No way
I can't speak about this site in particular, as I wasn't a member back then. But I read various articles about it on the mainstream news organizations websites that had pegged Oscar as a heavy favorite. Of course that's mainstream media, the people who know less about boxing than Stevie Wonder.
Yeah when Nard always talks about how he's trying to make history etc..........I think most of that goes to deaf ear and people continue to underrate him.
I'd imagine if he did somehow outbox Calzaghe that would be swept under the rug. You don't have to go much further than reading people's responses on an internet forum to get the scope.
Worst thing ever was him changing his style to a cautious defensive one......because people correlate ability to entertainment.
People don't even remember that his style was once one of "seek and destroy". They only remember when his age turned him into a tactical, low-risk fighter. And then they blame him for it, like you'd want to be 42 years old and taking the best shots of younger, stronger fighters.
People often forget that boxing is an art, and the art of it is to hit without being hit back. This is why masterful boxers like Hopkins, Mayweather and Jones are severly underrated in the general public's eye. And why fundamentally flawed, one dimensional fighters like Cotto get all the credit and respect.
You also don't bet against Hopkins, people should've learned that by now with Tito, Oscar, Tarver and Wright all being heavily favored against him.
Was Oscar favourd to beat Hopkins??
No way
You don't bet against Calzaghe that's all I can say.
You also don't bet against Hopkins, people should've learned that by now with Tito, Oscar, Tarver and Wright all being heavily favored against him.
Yeah when Nard always talks about how he's trying to make history etc..........I think most of that goes to deaf ear and people continue to underrate him.
I'd imagine if he did somehow outbox Calzaghe that would be swept under the rug. You don't have to go much further than reading people's responses on an internet forum to get the scope.
Worst thing ever was him changing his style to a cautious defensive one......because people correlate ability to entertainment.
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regardless of whether Hopkins wins, Hagler and Monzon are better middleweights that Hopkins
I don't think so.
Monzon never fought anyone, and defended his title against scrubs. Hopkins will have beaten 5 Major superstars.
People also can't play the "He defended against scrubs" in regards to Nard when he was the MW champ............because he moved up in weight and sought the LHW championship defending the title against the sports #2 best P4P.
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2nd best of all time.
He'll NEVER be better than Hagler.
I think he will have beaten the better level of opposition. Easily.
Look at the superstars he's dis assembled. And prospect Calzaghe
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FYI the Hopkins/Calzaghe fight will more than likely take place.
If Nard does in fact win, I'd like to hear first and foremost from you how he's the greatest middleweight of all time, let alone one of the top five depending where you slice him: Greatest P4P fighters of all time regardless of weight.
I dont like Joe but he reps the UK Wel so i got a slight soft spot for em. Not much tho!
Hopkins is an Amazing Boxer full of tricks and stylish moves, Joe is SO fast, mad stamina and work rate - Hard to pick! Hopkins for me is better but at this late stage of his career Zag mite just Outwork him Basically. Wouldnt bet against Hopkins tho, the man has TALENT! and he smart too