The most complete fighter fighting today

Damn... I'm tired of reading so many stupid posts. Incredible that so many actually ends up in the same thread. I gave up reading through this thread by the second or third page. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, even if it's out-of-this-world stupid. But for somebody's sake, please use just a little bit of intelligence when reasoning your beliefs... I've seen more intelligent conversations in kinder garden than some of this shit. Some people try to make the term "complete fighter" into something much more, like "unbeatable fighter". How clever. When you master the basics of boxing; offence, defence, counter-punching, slipping punches, fight going backwards, forwards and sideways, you are technically what is considered "complete boxer". That means that you know how to do it all. It does not mean that you can beat the whole bloody world by fighting in all kinds of modes. That's motherslapping stupid to say. Elite fighters operate at such a high level that you simply won't believe it unless you actually try to fight them. Since every single one of them dedicate every minute of their life to the sport, they have to focus on excelling on their strenghts. Otherwise, they lose. "Most complete"? Rubbish. This is a game played on our strenghts. Anything else is foolish. By the way, I'm the mostest complete fighter!

Juan Manuel Marquez. Again in hindsight maybe should have included him, I'm sure from the replies that the majority that voted other meant JMM.

Juan Manuel Marquez.

vernon forrest needs to be added to the list he can pump a good jab, he can throw mean power shots when he plants himself, he can fight, he can box. The trouble is you do one of these polls and whoever does them you always end up leaving someone off. I don't think I should have put Holyfield on there. Back in his day yeah, but now he is just going through the motions but at his best was a complete fighter and is still active which is why I put him on there. Maybe I could of added a few more thanks for the input.

vernon forrest needs to be added to the list he can pump a good jab, he can throw mean power shots when he plants himself, he can fight, he can box.

Yeah, i'm with Tech on this one. Mayweather's got it all. He is very explosive and he's got speed and power. He can slip punches, there's not much Floyd can't do. EXCEPT knock someone out. 4 KOs in his last 11 fights.:ugh:

Score update - It's getting close now. 41-38 To Calzaghe over Mayweather

Calzaghe is, but what isn't he? That's the problem with Joe over here. His pop meter is an 8 for starters.

Yeah, i'm with Tech on this one. Mayweather's got it all. He is very explosive and he's got speed and power. He can slip punches, there's not much Floyd can't do. :lol1: Course not, so to clarify, your now saying that Mayweather doesnt have the most complete skill set in boxing? Can floyd win coming forward, i dunno, ask Corrales who was unbeaten and tipped by most pundits to beat floyd, or floyd coming forward with damaged shouler against castillo or coming forward against a near 160 pound arturo gatti. :ugh:

Very Philosophical :lol1: (excuse the spelling in advance lol) Youv'e seen my missus, its Divad, well, he's my bitch and bit on the side, im not married. Im All mouth cos im not prepared to give my indentity away online?, :ugh: i think its called not being as stupid as you. tell ya what, it was your idea to put up a picture, not mine, so please lets see what the hype is all about, put ya pic up. In a way, you'd be saving what little manhood you have left, seeing as your not really funny, fat, self employed (unemployed :lol1: ) and your wife works for both of you and gives you pocket money. :lol1: your a fucking bottler u little bummer

She's at work yeah and I'm at home as that is where I work from being self-employed. Anyway I'm not chatting you up I'm educating you although it's hard as you just can't take anything in unless it's up your ass. So your not prepared to put picture of you or your missus up but say I can. That tells me everything I need to know. Your all mouth and too ashamed of showing yourself and your missus cos you know everyone will laugh and your so insecure you have to make fun at others when all the time your not happy with yourself. You need to learn to love yourself, don't give yourself such a hard time I'm sure your not that bad. Are you? Very Philosophical :lol1: (excuse the spelling in advance lol) Youv'e seen my missus, its Divad, well, he's my bitch and bit on the side, im not married. Im All mouth cos im not prepared to give my indentity away online?, :ugh: i think its called not being as stupid as you. tell ya what, it was your idea to put up a picture, not mine, so please lets see what the hype is all about, put ya pic up. In a way, you'd be saving what little manhood you have left, seeing as your not really funny, fat, self employed (unemployed :lol1: ) and your wife works for both of you and gives you pocket money. :lol1:

:lol1: I said you can see my penis, dont let your wife see it though, apparently she puts on weight just looking at a piece of meat :lol1: Is she at work while your at home? Haha, does your wife give you pocket money too? i dont think im owning myself mate while your at home a like a neglected housewife chatting me up while your wife is at work making money for you. :lol1: Yeah, put your pic up if you want, all i'l do is photocopy it and send it round the office for a quick, cheap laugh. :lol1: She's at work yeah and I'm at home as that is where I work from being self-employed. Anyway I'm not chatting you up I'm educating you although it's hard as you just can't take anything in unless it's up your ass. So your not prepared to put picture of you or your missus up but say I can. That tells me everything I need to know. Your all mouth and too ashamed of showing yourself and your missus cos you know everyone will laugh and your so insecure you have to make fun at others when all the time your not happy with yourself. You need to learn to love yourself, don't give yourself such a hard time I'm sure your not that bad. Are you? Anyway I've had enough of these childish arguments I should never have resorted to your childish behaviour in the first place. You are now on my ignore list so I don't have to get involved with you anymore. Goodbye forever.

I'd like to see your missus then, as your on here all day long. Post a picture up of yourself with your missus and I'll do the same and we can put it to the vote then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'm willing to do this and bet all my points against all of yours that you look a bigger twat than me and I have the better looking missus as well. I spend plenty of time with the missus when she's not working thank you very much. And while she's at work a get my kicks from owning idiots like you. P.S. You just completely owned yourself. I said why would I want a picture of you and your reply was at least I would get to see what a penis looks like. So you've just said you look like a penis. SELF OWNAGE :lol1: I said you can see my penis, dont let your wife see it though, apparently she puts on weight just looking at a piece of meat :lol1: Is she at work while your at home? Haha, does your wife give you pocket money too? i dont think im owning myself mate while your at home a like a neglected housewife chatting me up while your wife is at work making money for you. :lol1: Yeah, put your pic up if you want, all i'l do is photocopy it and send it round the office for a quick, cheap laugh. :lol1:

But at least you would get to see what a penis looks like, seeing as you have to call missing persons to find your missing 'person'. Yeah mate, your really funny, so far the best you can do is 1) Tech do you spead shit over people? (only you) 2) Tech, you got it wrong im not british (lol) 3) Tech my missus is good looking (lie) 4) Tech jog on please (Lame) Heavyweight. :ugh: But thats okay, cos if your missus was really beautiful you'd be spending more time IN her pussy, than BEING a pussy on boxingscene. Belive me mate the only hurricane going on in here is you going around in circles from the safety of your own home. :lol1: I'd like to see your missus then, as your on here all day long. Post a picture up of yourself with your missus and I'll do the same and we can put it to the vote then. Put your money where your mouth is. I'm willing to do this and bet all my points against all of yours that you look a bigger twat than me and I have the better looking missus as well. I spend plenty of time with the missus when she's not working thank you very much. And while she's at work a get my kicks from owning idiots like you. P.S. You just completely owned yourself. I said why would I want a picture of you and your reply was at least I would get to see what a penis looks like. So you've just said you look like a penis. SELF OWNAGE

Why would I want a picture of you. I couldn't think of anything worse. But at least you would get to see what a penis looks like, seeing as you have to call missing persons to find your missing 'person'. Yeah mate, your really funny, so far the best you can do is 1) Tech do you spead shit over people? (only you) 2) Tech, you got it wrong im not british (lol) 3) Tech my missus is good looking (lie) 4) Tech jog on please (Lame) Heavyweight. :ugh: But thats okay, cos if your missus was really beautiful you'd be spending more time IN her pussy, than BEING a pussy on boxingscene. Belive me mate the only hurricane going on in here is you going around in circles from the safety of your own home. :lol1:

Anyone can get a picture of a fat cunt sitting on a vibrator while he surfs the net, do the sig yourself. :lol1: Why would I want a picture of you. I couldn't think of anything worse.

Your right about you being fat, and please dont worry yourself about my sexuality, any woman who wakes up to some B.O Ridden, shelf-stacking yank who spends more time in a hot dog then he does in her pussy..... Is good enough for me. By the way, i love how you implied i was perverted, then you started to talk about eating shit and spreading it over people. :lol1: Have you been shitting down divad's throat again? That explains where he gets it from :lol1: You need to read things properly. I was implying your the one that sits on his fat ass all day, as I have other things to do and have a job unlike yourself. You really are confused aren't you. First you think I'm british with union jack underpants and now I'm a B.O ridden shelf stacking yank. Wrong on both counts. I know your jealous of my missus and her beautiful pussy is that because your missus has a cunt like a hippos yawn. Never mind at least it matches your mouth. Now that I've :owned: you yet again you'd better jog on as I've :owned: you 3 times now which means I get to keep you.

At last a sensible reply, good comments. I've not been on here that long but have noticed you do sigs for people, any chance I could pm you and talk about you doing one for me. Anyone can get a picture of a fat cunt sitting on a vibrator while he surfs the net, do the sig yourself. :lol1:

i voted clazaghe but i really dont know, all the fighters listed have major flaws: Holyfield....right now hes no more than a journeyman...so i wont bother floyd-great defense but overall limited repertory of punches, at his current weight no punching power, not the fastest but makes up for it with timing...low work rate...vulnerable to counterpunchers with good upper body movement... MAB- since leaving 122 he is overly cautious, fights only in spurts, throws arm punches out of his firing range chin is still solid but can be cracked occassionally...likes to fight at his own pace, so if you disturb that, he gets frustarted... Calzaghe- can be caught off balance at times....sometimes leaky defense...brittle hands....overall his style is well suited for the 168 pound limit... Hopkins: Vulnerable to fast straight countershots as evidenced by Winky Wright....low workrate, better stamina than at 160 but not that good....likes to stablish the pace of the fight if his pace is disgruntled like taylor did with size and winky did with aggression, he tends to get frustrated...overy cautious....not real experience against guys bigger than him...and the times hes fought them, hes mostly lost(taylor-jones) Mosley-bad jab.....not enough movemnet... more of a lateral mover than a circler... vulnerable to fast long jabs and high workrates....fights only in bursts...ver hittable....but makes up for it by being very durable and a great chin....can get discouraged, but alwasy tries hard even in desperation...power is decreasing... JMM:leaky defense because he takes too much time looking for perfect shots....fights in bursts...low workrate....can be outworked.....has problems with guys who are fast of feet who can get inside and outside of his punching range.... overall i would say Calzaghe is more complete than any of te others....and pretty much invincible at the supermiddle division because of his high workrate, endurance durablity, chin, power, speed, stamina, and athleticism...not to mention an underrated jab... At last a sensible reply, good comments. I've not been on here that long but have noticed you do sigs for people, any chance I could pm you and talk about you doing one for me.

No it didn't. I have other important things to do than to sit on my fat ass all day being an ignorant twat. What would you want with my missus, you've already admitted your gay. You wouldn't stand a chance with my missus anyway she's far too good looking for you and far too intellectual as well. As for the chocolate spread comment, I take it you mean you like to eat shit, and rub it all over people then lick it off as well as wear skirts and fishnets. You're crazier than I thought but each to their own. Your right about you being fat, and please dont worry yourself about my sexuality, any woman who wakes up to some B.O Ridden, shelf-stacking yank who spends more time in a hot dog then he does in her pussy..... Is good enough for me. By the way, i love how you implied i was perverted, then you started to talk about eating shit and spreading it over people. :lol1: Have you been shitting down divad's throat again? That explains where he gets it from :lol1: