The Heavyweight Division is as good as it's ever been

Being an Eastern European, I am sickened by Americans saying that the HW division is weak and garbage, you morons are only saying this because your American HW's are weak and soft. The HW division is definately better than the 80's when the OVERRATED Tyson was roaming the division and KOing everybody. Ali and Foreman weren't REAL world champions back in the day because Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn Professional because of the Cold War, if they were than it would have been a whole different story. For example, in baseball Babe Ruth was never really the best player of his era because it was a White only league, there could have been someone better than him in the Negro league, but we will never know. Americans are just gonna have to get used to the fact that Eastern European HW's are gonna DOMINATE for the rest of existence. Nah. I'm from the cook islands and I still think it's terrible...

Nah it generally sucks balls.

Ummm not really. Its getting excting thanks to Haye, Adamek and Chris.

Nothing personal mate i just went off the thread title. I think you are right. I can't think of any other way to interpret the thread title to be honest.

I never said it's the best era of all time, i'm just saying it's not as bad as you think. Nothing personal mate i just went off the thread title.

I never said it's the best era of all time, i'm just saying it's not as bad as you think. ahh i see well yea it ain't as bad a most people think and wlad is a good champ but i hoping david haye can come up 2 heavy n start winning some titles at heavy cause he is an exciting fighter with a lot of promsie but lets see how he fair's against mormeck first.

WLAD BLOWS, are you a reincarnation of Canda Joe/Steelhammer?

I have to disagree with the thought of this being as good as any era for the heavyweights.Wlad is a class act and should of held his own in any generation.Besides that, you have had fighters who are well past their best becoming world champs like Briggs and Maskaev not to mention Nikolay Valuev who is a side show that should never have been a champ. My fav Heavyweight era was in the mid 90's with Lewis-Holyfield-Bowe-Tyson.What would those guys have done to this division at this current time. Another case could be said more so for the 70's with Ali-Foreman-Frazier-Norton. But that was before my time and i only saw those fights years after. I never said it's the best era of all time, i'm just saying it's not as bad as you think.

THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION ABSOLUTELY SUCKS RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE OR LACATION OF BIRTH!!!! lol Thats saying how it is, straight to the point.

BOSTONGUY has a reputation for being a hater clown, I don't take anything that punk says seriously. o please we're all like to be patriotic but the foreman ali bit of your post was unvalid, disrepectful and most useless piece of shit i have seen. To say just because of the cold war was the reason east european weren't dominating is bull. I'm sure they had some good fighters then but ali and foreman were just as valid as wlad is. Wlad is a good champion and is the best in the division but he isn't dominating and thats what i want to see i don't give a shit what part of the world there from. The heavy division at the moment is a mess and needs sorting out. I think Wlad can clear the division at the moment but he has yet to prove it. The cuban's can't fight (i don't think they can yet) but no one goes round saying if cubans were aloud to fight they would dominate. Please you can say wlad is your favourite fighter and make a case for him being the best in the division but don't disrespect ali or foreman. They were true champions and fought the best.

THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION ABSOLUTELY SUCKS RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE OR LACATION OF BIRTH!!!! lol EDIT: oh, and is this just my opinion???? NO, IT IS A FREAKIN FACT!!!!!

In some points he is right. I agree also, he has a point I dont see the European lock on the division going away anytime soon

I have to disagree with the thought of this being as good as any era for the heavyweights.Wlad is a class act and should of held his own in any generation.Besides that, you have had fighters who are well past their best becoming world champs like Briggs and Maskaev not to mention Nikolay Valuev who is a side show that should never have been a champ. My fav Heavyweight era was in the mid 90's with Lewis-Holyfield-Bowe-Tyson.What would those guys have done to this division at this current time. Another case could be said more so for the 70's with Ali-Foreman-Frazier-Norton. But that was before my time and i only saw those fights years after.

I think you're way too obvious in overhyping Wladimir Klitchko. This era of HW's(right after Lennox) is pathetic in every way. And the 80s were so bad? Atleast they had 2 REAL undisputed champions in Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson. 2 fighters that are top 10 HW ever material. Wlad is great but I doubt he'll have enough great wins to have a great legacy, as great as the last great HW in Lewis. There aren't enough other positive resume adding fighters around, and as you said it it's too "corrupt".

Got karma?...:fing02: Must spread around......

I fucking love this post......especially the end. On the thread topic I agree with a couple of small points you made but in general you're full of shit. Got karma?...:fing02:

BOSTONGUY has a reputation for being a hater clown, I don't take anything that punk says seriously. "the drivel of unimformed bigotry" lmao

You only think this way because there are no good Americans HW's, if you were Eastern European like me you would be excited and pumped about the HW division. The HW division is the glamour division of boxing and it is in good shape. It's too bad American HW's have gotten so weak.:D Frankly, I could care less the nationality of today’s hw’s. Me and many other American boxing fans just want to see one unified dominant hw champion. And Wladimir Klitschko; I’m a huge fan of his and want only to see this guy succeed and reign as the ‘undisputed’ hw champion… However, to say that Eastern Europeans will dominate indefinitely forever, is ridiculous since they haven’t even dominated for longer than 5 years. I think that there’s a lull in the American hw talent these days, but who knows what fighters will come along in a few years….

I fucking love this post......especially the end. On the thread topic I agree with a couple of small points you made but in general you're full of shit. BOSTONGUY has a reputation for being a hater clown, I don't take anything that punk says seriously.

WLAD BLOWS, you’re assertion on the Eastern European hw’s dominating for the rest of existence is totally ‘off the mark’ and is the drivel of an uninformed bigot. I mean, how long have the Eastern Europeans dominated the division? 3, 4, 5 years at the longest; thats hardly enough historical performance to extrapolate the same results into the future…. Oh yeah, and…:sucks: :gives: :lame: and :tool: I fucking love this post......especially the end. On the thread topic I agree with a couple of small points you made but in general you're full of shit.