The only mexican fighter to ever challenge pacman's ability, conditioning, and adversity. Knocking the man down three times the first round and not able to finish. Personaly I believe it's a worthwhile rematch, better than a lame bout with a "Diaz" who has just come off a win from morales. An old worn out morales I might add. Or is it that TOP RANK is in the business of cashing checks, then again it's not manny's fault that Barrera sucked on their PPV card last week right. Wrong, Juan Manuel , beat barrera regardless of the 7th round technicality, he should of been disqualified, Roy Jones Jr. was a while back, even with the knockdown I still had him up a point. If you recorded the Marquez- Barrera "Countdown series" and "Pacman-Barrera" countdown series you see Barrera and I quote" I compare the Camp to the Nasem Hamed camp. Then countdown series for pacaman you see him say that he blow off training for that fight it's just nothing but excuses from that guy. Regardless of all this jibber jabber, all "REAL BOXING FANATICS" know this fight should happen and if it doesn't it will just leave "PACMAN FANATICS BELIEVING HE IS THE BEST IN WORLD WHEN HE HIMSELF RELINQUESHED THE #2 WBC Spot to barrera to avoid a mandatory bout with JUAN , BESIDES THAT NIGHT BARRERA PACMAN WAS FOR INTL BELT NOT A WORLD TITLE BOUT and now I LEAVE IT TO THE PACMAN FANS TO COUNTER " GO AHEAD"
The only mexican fighter to ever challenge pacman's ability, conditioning, and adversity. Knocking the man down three times the first round and not able to finish. Personaly I believe it's a worthwhile rematch, better than a lame bout with a "Diaz" who has just come off a win from morales. An old worn out morales I might add. Or is it that TOP RANK is in the business of cashing checks, then again it's not manny's fault that Barrera sucked on their PPV card last week right. Wrong, Juan Manuel , beat barrera regardless of the 7th round technicality, he should of been disqualified, Roy Jones Jr. was a while back, even with the knockdown I still had him up a point. If you recorded the Marquez- Barrera "Countdown series" and "Pacman-Barrera" countdown series you see Barrera and I quote" I compare the Camp to the Nasem Hamed camp. Then countdown series for pacaman you see him say that he blow off training for that fight it's just nothing but excuses from that guy. Regardless of all this jibber jabber, all "REAL BOXING FANATICS" know this fight should happen and if it doesn't it will just leave "PACMAN FANATICS BELIEVING HE IS THE BEST IN WORLD WHEN HE HIMSELF RELINQUESHED THE #2 WBC Spot to barrera to avoid a mandatory bout with JUAN , BESIDES THAT NIGHT BARRERA PACMAN WAS FOR INTL BELT NOT A WORLD TITLE BOUT and now I LEAVE IT TO THE PACMAN FANS TO COUNTER " GO AHEAD"
This fight needs to happen, i really think Marquez has a real chance against manny, Barrera actually did very well in spots, mainly where he jabbed and circled away from the left hand, causing manny to lean in from out of range and be countered. I belive my prediction was correct, if barrera could take a few shots and stick to boxing he would have a really good chance against Manny, thing is, when Barrera gets hit, hit immediately looks to hit back, and thats why Pacman can turn the fight into a brawl, which Barrera cannot win.
Was a great fight though.
I had it 118-110 Pacquaio
I thought he was trying to say Pac runs on batteries. Which makes sense since he fights and acts like a robot and all.yu thought wrong like you thought marco would win. you always wrong when it comes to pac. :arabia:
I'll take good care of him... hope i dont catch him masturbating to Pacquiaos music video again :ugh:
I think he'll spend his time trying to make an online petition to get Pac back in the running for Congress. ;)
Anyway, gotta run. It's been fun shooting the shit with you dude, you're not half as bad as anybody makes you out to be. Infact, I find your humor to be hilarious.
Take good care of him, don't show him De Leon's KO of Bautista, he may have nightmares. ;)
no i dont think beating a battery counts :thinking:
I thought he was trying to say Pac runs on batteries. Which makes sense since he fights and acts like a robot and all.
he cant answer, lol owned count #4,194 for Joartcc3... This is by far the best ownage haha :lol1:
Unfortunately I have to go to work shortly, so you can babysit this tyke for me while I'm gone. Of course, he'll end up twisting the fact that I have a job and pay taxes into me "ducking" him in some strange way though.
Name me a big opponet Pacquiao beat aside from war torn mexican legends Barrera and Morales. Don't worry, I'll give you plenty of time.fashun 3k battery? :lol1:
Name me a big opponent for Fake Floyd?
It's your opinion and excuses that Mab and morales are torn.
Just your opinion actually. Nothing more.
Floyd has many big name opponets.
Baldomir
Gatti
Judah
De La Hoya
Castillo
Corrales
Say what you will about why you don't think they were big names but your opinion is not the opinion of the media nor the boxing fan's on the large scale. Anyway you slice if PBF still has more titles and 4 more more opponets than Pac. Not to mention the fact that he's undefeated. Is it stinging yet? Truth hurts sometimes, I know. But you'll eventually get over it in time.
Maybe you can count on Rey Bautista to carry the pinoy flag when Pac's gone? :lol1:
Sori. But waiting for what? You're the fucking banana here. Plus the excuses.
You're a one trick pony with the "excuses" bullshit. No wonder you love Pac so much, he's a one trick pony too!
what the fuck? what elite fighters did he beat from fly to batam?
I'm waiting on that one too. This kid is fucking bananas. Oops, there I go spouting excuses again. Fiddlesticks! :grumble:
Your question? what questions?
Ahh... I mean your excuses.
Well... sori but excuses are excuses. :D
I stick to facts.
A question is a question, it's not an excuse. Here, let me help you out with the definition since you're having difficulty.
ques·tion (kwschn)
n.
1.
a. An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply.
b. An interrogative sentence, phrase, or gesture.
2. A subject or point open to controversy; an issue.
3. A difficult matter; a problem: a question of ethics.
4. A point or subject under discussion or consideration.
5.
a. A proposition brought up for consideration by an assembly.
b. The act of bringing a proposal to vote.
6. Uncertainty; doubt: There is no question about the validity of the enterprise.
v. ques·tioned, ques·tion·ing, ques·tions
v.tr.
1. To put a question to. See Synonyms at ask.
2. To examine (a witness, for example) by questioning; interrogate.
3. To express doubt about; dispute.
4. To analyze; examine.
v.intr.
To ask questions.
Now that you know what one is, I'll tell you they end with a question mark. The thing that looks like this >?<. So now that you've been informed properly, care to answer my original question?
Name me a big opponet Pacquiao beat aside from war torn mexican legends Barrera and Morales. Don't worry, I'll give you plenty of time.
Excuses once again. Just keep those excuses coming dude. That's the your only use here.
Fact. Pac defeated MAB and Morales plus a string of elite fighters from Fly to Bantam.
Fact. Fake Floyd has not fought Freitas, Casamayor, Kostya, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito.
Between your excuses and the facts. We both know what stands.
Keep those excuses coming. :D
I love how no matter what I type, it's instantly an excuse.
And I'm still waiting on that "string" of "elite" fighters to surface. Don't worry, I'll let you put Velazquez on it even though he already had 10 losses. ;)
Why don't you answer my question Mexican coward?
Loser leaves site. JMM vs Pac.
You duck my question the way Pacquiao ducks fighters under the age of 63.
I never knew Baldomir to be the best.
Nor an old DLH
Nor Judah
Nor Gatti
Nor Ndou
In fact just about everyone in Fake Floyd's resume.
Of course there's Castillo. Who beat him in the first fight.
Stick to your excuses.
An old Oscar is still as dangerous as an old Barrera or Morales, correct?
Judah was on a bit of a losing streak since Tszyu but he was still regarded as one of the top 5 in his division at the time by most analysts of the Mayweather fight.
Like it or not, Baldomir was a big name in 2006 coming off of big underdog wins against Judah and Gatti. The media loved his "Cinderella Story" and he was a big name then.
Lovemore N'Dou was kinda a light weight Demarcus Corley. Not the most talented man in the sport but would definitely give any serious contender all they could handle.
And I love how you left out a prime Castillo, and a prime Corrales. Then again I guess that wouldn't have suited your hate post much.
I figured there was intelligent boxing fanatics in this forum but once agin i am mistakenl. If anybody were to watch Pacman -Marquez, Barrera- Pacman. Pacman fought more intense. Yes Pacman is a one dimensional fighter and I believe he still is ... Freddie Roach is smart not wanting to fight JM, same as Manny Steward not wanting Naseem Hamed to fight JM when he was his mandatory fight for two years and never got that chance... Fact is Barrera, Morales are great fighters but not in the same class as Marquez, all three fighters were exposed to each other and had great fights that generated money. Fact is Marquez was the best kept secret for too long. I only hope those who read this have an open mind not Hugging Pacmans nuts....I respect all his wins what I dont respect is him avoiding his mandatory a true champion takes the doubt out of any fans minds that he is the best by challenging the champion or anybody the public sees fit to test him... Somebody mentioned Rocky Juarez sorry buddy not in the same class or even considered a dream match up, Juarez Great Fighter Great Power but no good trainer or training.... A true champion I consider is Sugar Shane Mosley who had his last four losses at the end of his career before his comeback ... He could of taken a trilogy with De la Hoya or a fight with Trinidad for more money , anybody else but he fought winky wright and Vernon Forest and lost admirably he said himself He allowed them and gave them the opportunity to get the championship because he saw himself in them when nobody would give him the opportunity. Manny is not even a World Champion rightnow , he is a Paper Intl Champion with no belt , just a fighter with a good fane base, something every fighter needs... Now A Rematch with JM would only solidy the first fight was a mistake why not take that chance "WHY DUCK JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ" Even with the 10 - 6 first IT is still a draw. IF you only see all Bob Arum will do "TOP RANK INC CEO" is milk money for all he's got.... get him fights with baby bull diaz , jorge linares, joan guzman, humberto soto, fights that will only generate money but not a legend or crediblity, only beating up and comers but not a dream match up. maybe dream match up would be Pacquaio - Mayweather I would love to see that
DREAM MATCH UPS LETS SEE TO EDUCATE YOU ALL
mayweather- mosley
J.clottey- p.williams
J. Linares- J. Guzman
K.Pavlik- J. Calzahge
A. Margarito- Cotto
K.Cintron- A berto
Marquez fought Barrera like an offence machine. We all know that Marquez is superior to all at counter punching so he wasn't at his best against Barrera even though Marquez did win the fight he is a counter puncher not an offence fighter.
I really am pysched that Marquez v. Juarez are fighting but for this fight im not picking a winner, may the best fighter win. But don't be surprised if Rocky finally gets it right and pulls the upset. Have you seen Marquez knuckle? It still looks swollen, i don't see how he will be 100 percent come fight night against Rocky. Thought I expect Marquez to play counter puncher with Juarez all night long.
It is obvious that JMM is outpricing himself.
The reason the rematch was not made in the past is because JMM ran from the fight and took beans fighting someone from Indonesia.
As a result he got beans and lost his belt.
That's a fact.
Pac has already said that he is willing to fight anybody at 130. He has done that and has proven it.
Pacie, listen and go and check out the univsion website. Marquez said he is looking to fight Pacquiao again and he wont let foolish decicions by Nacho get in the way of a fight.
Plain and simple if Marquez v. Pacquioa doesn't happen it will be Pacquioa's fault.
And you and i know that Marquez was robbed against John. The low blows were bullshit if you remember John had his trunks up to his shoulders.
Excuses.
Between your excuses and the facts that Pac has taken on the best and beat them.
We both know what stands.
Free of charge. :D
Stick to your excuses.
I'll stick to the facts.
I never knew Hector Velazquez and Jorge Solis were some of "the best". My mistake. Name me a big opponet Pacquiao beat aside from war torn mexican legends Barrera and Morales. Don't worry, I'll give you plenty of time.
Pac has already said that he is willing to fight anybody at 130 who is old and about to retire. He has done that and has proven it.
Fixed it for you, free of charge. ;)
I figured there was intelligent boxing fanatics in this forum but once agin i am mistakenl. If anybody were to watch Pacman -Marquez, Barrera- Pacman. Pacman fought more intense. Yes Pacman is a one dimensional fighter and I believe he still is ... Freddie Roach is smart not wanting to fight JM, same as Manny Steward not wanting Naseem Hamed to fight JM when he was his mandatory fight for two years and never got that chance... Fact is Barrera, Morales are great fighters but not in the same class as Marquez, all three fighters were exposed to each other and had great fights that generated money. Fact is Marquez was the best kept secret for too long. I only hope those who read this have an open mind not Hugging Pacmans nuts....I respect all his wins what I dont respect is him avoiding his mandatory a true champion takes the doubt out of any fans minds that he is the best by challenging the champion or anybody the public sees fit to test him... Somebody mentioned Rocky Juarez sorry buddy not in the same class or even considered a dream match up, Juarez Great Fighter Great Power but no good trainer or training.... A true champion I consider is Sugar Shane Mosley who had his last four losses at the end of his career before his comeback ... He could of taken a trilogy with De la Hoya or a fight with Trinidad for more money , anybody else but he fought winky wright and Vernon Forest and lost admirably he said himself He allowed them and gave them the opportunity to get the championship because he saw himself in them when nobody would give him the opportunity. Manny is not even a World Champion rightnow , he is a Paper Intl Champion with no belt , just a fighter with a good fane base, something every fighter needs... Now A Rematch with JM would only solidy the first fight was a mistake why not take that chance "WHY DUCK JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ" Even with the 10 - 6 first IT is still a draw. IF you only see all Bob Arum will do "TOP RANK INC CEO" is milk money for all he's got.... get him fights with baby bull diaz , jorge linares, joan guzman, humberto soto, fights that will only generate money but not a legend or crediblity, only beating up and comers but not a dream match up. maybe dream match up would be Pacquaio - Mayweather I would love to see that
DREAM MATCH UPS LETS SEE TO EDUCATE YOU ALL
mayweather- mosley
J.clottey- p.williams
J. Linares- J. Guzman
K.Pavlik- J. Calzahge
A. Margarito- Cotto
K.Cintron- A berto
the yong Marquez didnt do anything the spical to get a win what will the old Marquez will do.
Barrera already showed he was abit overrated yes he is good no doubt about it but I think people are overreacting on Marquez putting him with Erik Morales and Barrera.
Pac Knockhim down when he was one dimsion fight I dont know with his improved right-hooks what he is going to do with as well as Pac is far more better fighter when he faced Marquez.
But I could see Pac crack up at 135 by a normal contender
OK for the RECORD: the judge in the pac vs jmm fight ADMITTED that he F'd up the scoring and did not know how to properly score 3 knockdowns for the first round. so bottom line is if the judge knew how to do his Fin job then we would not even be discussing a rematch because on the REALZ pac should have won that night by SD but again the judge admitted he F'd up the scoring!
i think in cases like this when the judge admits he made an error then decisions should be turned and corrected.
whos with me?
Yhea well pac should have been deducted point for hitting Marquez when he was down.So at the end it even's out and a draw is the fair decision.
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