It's pretty clear to me that Americans despise and are jealous of the invasion of overseas fighters. Is it because overseas fighters are White or is it just a nationalistic patriot dumbass thing? The two overseas areas that get hated on the most are definately Eastern Europe and the UK because some of the best fighters in boxing are from these areas. If I got a Dime for every Hatton,Calzaghe and Wlad Hate Thread I would be livin it up in Hawaii for the rest of my life, partying every night.
Being an Eastern European, I am sickened at the amount of hate that you Americans show towards us. NEWSFLASH, The Cold War is Over and you won. I'm happy as fuck the Cold War ended because it allowed Eastern European fighters to turn Professional and take over boxing .
Overseas fighters will continue to get better and they are here to stay, so get used to it Americans.
Im an American and a huge Wlad fan. He's the best Heavyweight on the planet. Ill put all my points on him in his next fight. Dont know who he fights or care, Wlad will crush them.
I have nothing against foreign fighters. But to make the assumtion that america has less ghettos & violence is bit rediculous. Our country has one of the highest murder rates in the world. No dissrepect but if a gang in east st. louis got a hold of you father that day and major had beef, they wouldn't have thought twice about killing him. There are ghettos and slums everywere across the world....everyone should be treated the same. But boxing is a very enthic and cultural sport. You route for your heritage alot, and like everyone said, If you don't see or hear about a fighter then they don't get popular.
As several stated (before and around most of these ridiculous, bull shit posts) it's not that it's dislike for them... but rather a liking towards ours.
We don't see a lot of prospects from overseas until they're finally stepping up to take a shot at a belt. And if our choices are somebody who we kinda' know and might like to somebody we've never seen... the choice becomes obvious.
Also, the road goes both ways. People around the world will always have some sense of nationalism when rooting for boxers (not in all cases, but most). It's not bad; unless it becomes degrading towards other or such blind nationalism that it overrides common sense.
No hate here for European fighters. Shit, boxings a GLOBAL sport. I don't care where you come from, if your a great fighter, your GREAT. Period. And why'd you come here with this chip on your shoulder? That your some sort of "badss" because you grew up in a rough hood in Eastern Europe? Ask the people of Darfur or Somalia what ROUGH is. The Russian Mob? These people are dealing with Warlords with hundreds of men underneath their command carrying fully automatic weapons and RPG's, slaughtering them. So put a little perspective on how "hard" your ghetto was.
So as far as European fighters go, no hate. Some of their FANS on the other hand...
For the same reason that whites used to hate blacks when said blacks were firts allowed into the pro leagues. It ruined their sense of superiority and made their past records and heroes seem relatively meaningless.
Even the great Ali was never a real world champ, he was champ of half of a divided world, the capitalist side. Whether he could have touched the top Soviet boxers will never be known. Muhammed Ali is just like Babe Ruth in that.
Good Post Kayjay, I agree
It's too bad the Cold War had too happen
Americans are the only people in the world that have everything in their country
i completely disagree. most of western europe has a higher standard of living. I mean look at new orleans, there are still people homeless there. I wouldn`t live in the us if you paid me.
Americans are the only people in the world that have everything in their country,every oppurtunity, and they are still unhappy
What aload of bollox, what do they have that Britain, Australia, France, Switzerland etc etc dosent have? Other than really high crime
Your dumb ass finally made some good points...
And I will agree with you,especially the above....cause yes,I have everything I want.A 4000 sq foot home,new cars for me and the wife...I even bought my daughter a new car.
I am sooooo happy to be in America...dispite it's flaws,it is still the greatest place in the world.
And you are correct...you Euro guys have taken over the sport.Euro-fighters come from the real ghettos and are simply hungrier.Americans are now fat-cats and guys that could be great fighters are playing American football.
So enjoy it...and you should quit whining about those who don't.
Shithead...
I'M GLAD YOU AGREE WITH ME, SHITHEAD
No the REAL GHETTO'S are in Africa. You think not having a meal is bad. Imagine not having a life if you don't do things a certain person's way. I for one never take what I have for granted because I know how bad it can be out there. So I appreciate everything I have and I believe I and some others are truly blessed. That being said it doesn't hurt to help those in need. That's why I am going overseas to help after I graduate.
Obviously the Famine in Africa is terrible
But man, you haven't been born or lived in Eastern Europe like me. The Russian Mafia runs everything, including the corrupt police. There are thugs, Drug Dealers and gangsters everywhere. I was even involved in a Junior youth gang when I was a kid, but I eventually moved overseas. If I didn't leave Eastern Europe I would have been killed or ended up in jail. I am extremely thankful.
I still have nightmares about my dad gettin beaten half to death in front of me by the thugs because he wouldn't give them his money.
I don't think it's that Americans "hate" overseas fighters. It's just that Americans would rather root for someone representing their own country rather than from another country. Just like the British, Pinoys, Mexicans and most other countries root for their country's fighter.
Yup, Geography has as much to do with a fan's favorites as any other factors. Most of us here are just here for the sport, and I'll cheer for any fighter who impresses me, regardless of where he hails from.
Americans are the only people in the world that have everything in their country,every oppurtunity, and they are still unhappy. Americans(white and black) have gone SOFT from living in a rich economic country where you can get anything you want.
The REAL Ghetto's are in Eastern Europe. When I was a kid my dad was beaten half to death right in front of me by a gang of thugs because he wouldn't give them his money. Thankfully my dad survived and he is healthy today. It is a terrible place over there, you American's have got it easy as fuck.
American's whine and bitch if they don't get a proper meal
Eastern Europeans are happy just to have a meal
No the REAL GHETTO'S are in Africa. You think not having a meal is bad. Imagine not having a life if you don't do things a certain person's way. I for one never take what I have for granted because I know how bad it can be out there. So I appreciate everything I have and I believe I and some others are truly blessed. That being said it doesn't hurt to help those in need. That's why I am going overseas to help after I graduate.
I don't think it's that Americans "hate" overseas fighters. It's just that Americans would rather root for someone representing their own country rather than from another country. Just like the British, Pinoys, Mexicans and most other countries root for their country's fighter.
Nobody can deny that there's both a Race and Nationalistic side to boxing. People like to cheer more for fighters they can identify with, rather than guys they cannot. Every Country seems a bit biased towards their homeland's devolpment of fighters, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I myself an an American fight fan and I cheer for overseas fighters just as quickly as I do my own. I don't buy into the Nationalistic aspect of the sport, I just cheer good fighters. I love Wladimir Klitschko and Joe Calzaghe. I also like Ruslan Chagaev, Oleg Maskaev, Ricky Hatton and Junior Witter.
Sure skills, but race plays a part. A lot of American whites expect athletes to be black, and discriminate against a white athlete.
When I mention that white athletes are discriminated against, which I take for indisputably true, I mean mainly by white people. It makes no sense and drives me nuts, but it's part of the pussy ass white boy inferiority complex.
I have no sense of that complex, but I see it and I hate it.
That always seemed odd to me. It's like stereotyping people. Just because there is one white person and one black person doesn't mean the black person will be more athletic, it is pretty ignorant now that I think about it.
Americans are the only people in the world that have everything in their country,every oppurtunity, and they are still unhappy. Americans(white and black) have gone SOFT from living in a rich economic country where you can get anything you want.
The REAL Ghetto's are in Eastern Europe. When I was a kid my dad was beaten half to death right in front of me by a gang of thugs because he wouldn't give them his money. Thankfully my dad survived and he is healthy today. It is a terrible place over there, you American's have got it easy as fuck.
American's whine and bitch if they don't get a proper meal
Eastern Europeans are happy just to have a meal
Your dumb ass finally made some good points...
And I will agree with you,especially the above....cause yes,I have everything I want.A 4000 sq foot home,new cars for me and the wife...I even bought my daughter a new car.
I am sooooo happy to be in America...dispite it's flaws,it is still the greatest place in the world.
And you are correct...you Euro guys have taken over the sport.Euro-fighters come from the real ghettos and are simply hungrier.Americans are now fat-cats and guys that could be great fighters are playing American football.
So enjoy it...and you should quit whining about those who don't.
Shithead...
I think it's because as Americans, we feel the best competition is right here in the states. Therefore, our fighters come up fighting harder competition than the rest of the world. So an American prospect who is 20-0 seems way better than a British lad who's 20-0. Take Ricky Hatton for instance. Americans feel like he would not be undefeated if he came up fighting American fighters. Same for Joe Calzaghe. These are not my own feelings, but it's how us Americans are programmed. Better, faster, stronger. I feel that talent transcends oceans and language barriers.
If that's the way Americans think then you guys are DEAD WRONG, Overseas fighters are now better than American fighters and we will eventually completly take over boxing because you AMERICANS are getting softer and softer.
I think it's because as Americans, we feel the best competition is right here in the states. Therefore, our fighters come up fighting harder competition than the rest of the world. So an American prospect who is 20-0 seems way better than a British lad who's 20-0. Take Ricky Hatton for instance. Americans feel like he would not be undefeated if he came up fighting American fighters. Same for Joe Calzaghe. These are not my own feelings, but it's how us Americans are programmed. Better, faster, stronger. I feel that talent transcends oceans and language barriers.
this is really one of the only good and logical answers in the thread
stupid thread me and all my friend love overseas fighter and has nothin! 2 do with there skin color
wald is the man
hattons gonna kill gayweathjer calz kessler best fight ever
i can go on n on
I respect you bro, but I have been hated on a lot here by Americans, just because I am Eastern European and I am sick of it.
stupid thread me and all my friend love overseas fighter and has nothin! 2 do with there skin color
wald is the man
hattons gonna kill gayweathjer calz kessler best fight ever
i can go on n on