It annoys me a little bit when I read these stories to Ricky "Hook And Hold" Hatton. Inside fighting is a talent in it's own right. There's an art to fighting in close and finding the gaps to land your shots. It's as much of an art as being to able to box on the outside, and I hope the referee is just as respectful of my style of fighting as he is Floyd's and allows me to go about my business the way I would want to on December 8. I hope he let's us fight. I like to get in the zone, get in close and hurt people. I don't want to hold them. I'm not a wrestler, as some people are trying to portray me. That's not my style at all. Against Kostya Tszyu, I did alot of work in close and that performance has been described as one of the best by a British fighter ever. It's not me saying that, it's other people, so I just don't see how I can be criticized for my style now.
The Ring, December 2007
a unique moment in boxingscene. someone admits they were wrong.
The clips by Addison above deserve consideration. They show how a determined inside fighter can bring down a good boxer. Not making a direct comparison, but note the eerly similiar styles between Jack Dempsey and Ricky Hatton.
ur right, i did make myself sound ignorant in that aspect. no arguments there u proved me wrong and for that i apologize. my mistake.
a unique moment in boxingscene. someone admits they were wrong.
I'm reviving this thread for the clips posted by Addison here. You guys need to check these out for a great analysis of how Hatton can get the job done.
That isn't the point and you know it. You described people who like all out wars as "bloodthirsty" and "ignorant" and the writers for the Ring are neither. Yes, they are opinions, but they are respected opinions, and not just those of the baying crowd. Sure Floyd finds a way to win but don't suggest that he's exciting while he does it and certainly don't suggest that anyone who thinks he isn't exciting is somehow less of a boxing fan or of a lower intellect.
ur right, i did make myself sound ignorant in that aspect. no arguments there u proved me wrong and for that i apologize. my mistake.
if u were 3-4 weight classes about ur natural weight, would u slug it out in a war with a guy who is way bigger and stronger than you?
That isn't the point and you know it. You described people who like all out wars as "bloodthirsty" and "ignorant" and the writers for the Ring are neither. Yes, they are opinions, but they are respected opinions, and not just those of the baying crowd. Sure Floyd finds a way to win but don't suggest that he's exciting while he does it and certainly don't suggest that anyone who thinks he isn't exciting is somehow less of a boxing fan or of a lower intellect.
just because you can weight drain your 5-8 72" reach down to 130 doesnt mean thats his natural weight. Floyds size is average for welterweight.
floyd never drains himself though. naturally 135 was his ideal weight. this would make sense if floyd blew up every fight, but he doesnt. a better example of weight draining to sit at an ideal weight is hatton, not floyd.
if u were 3-4 weight classes about ur natural weight, would u slug it out in a war with a guy who is way bigger and stronger than you?
just because you can weight drain your 5-8 72" reach down to 130 doesnt mean thats his natural weight. Floyds size is average for welterweight.
Floyd has a perceived edge because, regardless of the deficiencies in power etc..., his style is flashier and appears to the layman to be more sophisticated. You are arguing, correctly if I may be so bold, that the inside game is an art that is just as sophisticated as any other boxing style. And, that as a result, Hatton is perfectly skilled to do the job of bringing a real fight to Floyd. Kudos to you and your stunning string of clips in this thread.
I hate to break it to you genius, but the "layman" wouldnt be watching a floyd fight in the first place, floyds style is not flashy even in the slightest, floyd is accurate and defensive and favors countering, how the fuck is that appealing to the "layman".
I find it slightly offensive that you would consider anybody who doesn't agree with you as "ignorant" and "bloodthirsty". Fact is that when a fighter is avoiding engaging his opponent it is less exciting than when he is making an effort to mount an offense, and the vast majority of boxing fans, real boxing fans, real in-the-know experts, prefer an all-out war to a chess match every time.
Check out the Ring's fights of the year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Magazine_fights_of_the_year
How many chess matches do you see?
if u were 3-4 weight classes about ur natural weight, would u slug it out in a war with a guy who is way bigger and stronger than you? i wouldnt. i would be tactful and pick my shots and not get hit, which is the idea of the game. sorry if i offended you by sayin that, but most of the people that hate on floyd are upset cuz he doesnt trade in the center of the ring.
i dont see why u gave me the link for fight of the year? those are opinions, and some may agree and some may not. it has nothing to do with what i said. those fighters fight their fights, and floyd fights his. if he doesnt wanna brawl then he doesnt have to brawl. if hes smaller hes gonna stick and move and win fights. u aint in there, he is. dont be so sensitive about what i said my man. all the haters on this site call floyd fans nuthuggers and floydboyz and generalize everyone ine ONE category for no reason except that we appreciate floyd as a fighter, but are not biased towards him. so what goes around comes around my friend. no disrespect to u personally...
i know i know, dont even say it, we know the de la hoya fight and baldomir fight werent "exciting" to the ignorant blood thirsty fans, but for those that enjoy watching boxing, it was a CLINIC.
I find it slightly offensive that you would consider anybody who doesn't agree with you as "ignorant" and "bloodthirsty". Fact is that when a fighter is avoiding engaging his opponent it is less exciting than when he is making an effort to mount an offense, and the vast majority of boxing fans, real boxing fans, real in-the-know experts, prefer an all-out war to a chess match every time.
Check out the Ring's fights of the year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Magazine_fights_of_the_year
How many chess matches do you see?
I wonder if the ref will put up with PBF running all night and not giving fans entertainment.
u call it running, i call it boxing. if ricky was as good as eevryone makes him out to be, then he should cut the fucking ring off and beat on floyd, but he cant, and no one else was able to do it either. he's good at boxing, and no one can touch him cuz of it, so you call it running, cuz he doesnt like to get hit. look at his compubox numbers and see how many punches he lands.
i know i know, dont even say it, we know the de la hoya fight and baldomir fight werent "exciting" to the ignorant blood thirsty fans, but for those that enjoy watching boxing, it was a CLINIC.
floyd runs? no, he boxes
ricky holds and hits? yea, he holds and hits...
does anyone need a more in depth analysis. PM me and i'll have some home schooling lessons done for you.
ENJOY THE FIGHT Y'ALL!!! :boxing:
The only difference in the leonard/mayweather comparison is Leonard could actually punch and would stand and trade.
Imagine leonard with no punch and no willingness to actually trade and you have Mayweather!
id still take that over ricky hatton any day of the week my friend, and so would you... dont lie...
After he loses to Mayweather, hatton should put on 50 pounds of muscle or fat and go to wrestling, he would do fine.
HA HA with original and witty insight like that you should go into journalism. Hatton putting on weight and becoming a professional wrestler, it's genius! I can't believe noone has come up with that before. Wow. To have such an inspired mind.
Hatton
im British and i like Hatton but IMO he will only beat PBF if he gets a referee that gives him the benefit of the doubt too me a Hatton victory hinges on what the referee will allow him to get away with ,if the referee is to harsh or over officiate's the fight it could be very painfull night for Hatton cause nobody can counter punch going backward's like Floyd and get in with quickfire combination's and get out ,and ive have observed how Ricky is suspect to the right hand all through his Career
then again Hatton is a better fighter than a prime Castillo or Corrales RIP ,Gatti ,Baldomir no question about that IMO
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Mayweatherite? I'm looking at this fight objectivly, while one of you show videos of "How Hatton can defeat Mayweather"?, and then one of you say "Yes kids watch and learn" and you expect me to not see your not Hatton dickriding? Please. Read my post carefully. 1+1 dosen't equal three. I'm not defending PBF as a person. I'm not his mutha phucking lawyer. But come Dec 8th, Hatton had better have the best cut man in his corner. It's not about U.S. vs. England, it's not a black vs. white thing. It's about Mayweather has fought the better fighters, bigger fighters, harder hitting fighters, never been down, never been cut, dosen't blow up to 190 fucking pounds eating bangers and mash. I LIKE HATTON. But he isn't going to be the one to beat PBF.