Natoral Talent or dedication, which one wins

Kostya Tszyu vs. Zab Judah. That is all.

Dedication but Natural talent= a legend. Natural talent will only get you so far, you will meet someone dedicated who will beat you.

It doesn't matter how naturally gifted a fighter or any athlete is in their chosen sport, without dedication and extremely hard work you will never realise your full potential. Anyone who wants to argue differently hasn't got a clue! Roy Jones thought that he would beat Glen johnson alone on talent, he neglected hard work and got hurt badly! Another example is running the Marathon without any long training runs compared to the person who runs 160 kilometres a week. Who would you choose to finish ahead of the other?

If you don't have natural talent then you will never be great, then again, if you DO have it but you don't have dedication, you still won't be great. So one doesn't work without the other. I agree. Talent is a waste unless there is the dedication that goes along with it. If two fighters go into a fight both at the same dedication level the one with the most talent wins almost all the time. Talent wins most of the time, but dedication is key especially in boxing.

Ive sparred ppl that have been in boxing since they were little and beat there ass off of 1 year experience.So I say talent.:wave:

Say a fighter was naturally talanted but not dedicated in the way of training every single day of his life, which onw would u say would win in a fight I ask this as i believe Hatton is a more naturally talanted fighter than Mayweather. Mayweather is more dedicated yet he seems manufactured. Yet Ricky goes on the piss all the time but still wins his fights as he has a natural talent. i know this will catch up with him one day but hes in his prime at the min. Just bear in mind 2 footballers though, David Beckham is probably the most dedicated footballer there is, he is the floyd Mayweather of football so to speak, yet he will never ever be as good as cocaine addicted Diego Marradonna who was the greatest play to ever live so what u reckon peeps, natural talant or dedication? u seriously think ricky hatton is more naturally talented than floyd mayweather?? i would rather listen to the trash talk and the hate threads. thats jus a silly thing to say, wouldnt u think? i mean, NATURAL TALENT.... hatton MORE than floyd...... come on man, get real i mean seriously thats overboard man :smashfrea:nono:

so talent vs heart? all depends who the fighters r lol

If you don't have natural talent then you will never be great, then again, if you DO have it but you don't have dedication, you still won't be great. So one doesn't work without the other.

I have to admit, I am always puzzled as to why a professional athlete would allow himself to get out of shape. I don't even understand a regular, non-athlete who walks around with a fat body. Put down the damn cheesecake and go to the gym. How does a guy gain 30-40 pounds in a couple of months? What tastes THAT good? But to answer your question, dedication alone beats natural talent alone. ...But when you combine the two, you get something very special. Hatton's been boxing probably for 20 years or so, he knows how his body responds and how to get in top shape, I've never seen Hatton out of shape in a fight, can't say that he's the same punching machine he was before but those clinches take a lot out of you as well. I think he's dedicated when he needs to be, a lot of so called dedicated fighters over train.

well low tier fighters talent wins everytime look at james toney all the talent none of the dedication atm but high tier the dedication wins although you a need a bit of talent 2 get anywhere.

Mayweather has handspeed thats talent. What does Ricky Hatton have thats talent and not dedication? This is to the thread starter.

how is hatton naturally talented than floyd?

In the old days, dedication because at the end of the day its the dedication that makes you the aggressor in a fight regardless of punchcounts, and you can win rounds and therefore fights that way. These days, when half the judges are bought and the other half are blinded by anything slick looking, natural talent.

no i was just using them as an example, more so with Ricky as he is not as dedicated at Floyd, it's more a question of natural talent v's dediacation I see Floyd as a very dedicated fighter, but maybe not in this Hatton fight. Hatton is the hungrier fighter so I believe he will be more dedicated than Floyd this time. Floyd will be spending more time in his dance practices, he will be Dancing with the Stars. =))

I go with dedication. You'll end up nothing if you don't have dedication. But I don't personally see Hatton and PBF related to this. Thay are both naturally talented and dedicated. no i was just using them as an example, more so with Ricky as he is not as dedicated at Floyd, it's more a question of natural talent v's dediacation

Say a fighter was naturally talanted but not dedicated in the way of training every single day of his life, which onw would u say would win in a fight I ask this as i believe Hatton is a more naturally talanted fighter than Mayweather. Mayweather is more dedicated yet he seems manufactured. Yet Ricky goes on the piss all the time but still wins his fights as he has a natural talent. i know this will catch up with him one day but hes in his prime at the min. Just bear in mind 2 footballers though, David Beckham is probably the most dedicated footballer there is, he is the floyd Mayweather of football so to speak, yet he will never ever be as good as cocaine addicted Diego Marradonna who was the greatest play to ever live so what u reckon peeps, natural talant or dedication? I go with dedication. You'll end up nothing if you don't have dedication. But I don't personally see Hatton and PBF related to this. Thay are both naturally talented and dedicated.