there is zero talk of him in any fight. none at all. for some reason i could see him not fighting the rest of the year and only put in one fight for 2007.
all these tv slots are being filled up and still no PW talk. anybody got anything?:boxing:
Dan Rafael's description of Pun in his divisional rankings on the 4 letter website.
4. Paul Williams (33-0)
"The Punisher" got his title when he outpointed Antonio Margarito in an exciting fight on July 14. But title or no title, Williams isn't going to have any easier of a time getting big-time matches because nobody wants to rumble with a young, STRONG, 6-foot-2 southpaw with the stamina to fight all day and night. We'd like to see him unify belts with Kermit Cintron.
I disagree with the severity of your statement. First off, since you have an obvious biased towards Williams your argument has no relevance. Actually it was convincingly disproven by whoever commented about his decision against Margarito and his inability to hurt him. To be objective, even though I favor Cintron I think Williams lacks the power to knock Cintron out but most definitely is capable of throwing more punches with accuracy and defeating him in a decision. That's where I think he'll make it hard for Cintron because he will undoubtedly keep that jab in his face.
Secondly, enough with comments about the beatdown Margarito gave Cintron. He looked good in his last fight and no one can deny that. That knockout was brutal. I think Manny Steward is doing a good job with Cintron and now he has something to prove. Stop comparing Cintron to what he used to because the circumstances have changed.
just because i am a Skinny Pun fan, dont mean i cant make an impartial opinion on a fight, and williams would beat the brakes off of cintron. williams has more to offer in a fight than cintron. cintron got a ton of power and manny steward, and he is a cryer. williams is more skilled, faster, taller and longer, no slouch in the power department(he has 24 KOS in 33 fights), stamina for days. full 12 round fight, williams wins 99 out of 100.
williams would beat the brakes off of cintron.
I disagree with the severity of your statement. First off, since you have an obvious biased towards Williams your argument has no relevance. Actually it was convincingly disproven by whoever commented about his decision against Margarito and his inability to hurt him. To be objective, even though I favor Cintron I think Williams lacks the power to knock Cintron out but most definitely is capable of throwing more punches with accuracy and defeating him in a decision. That's where I think he'll make it hard for Cintron because he will undoubtedly keep that jab in his face.
Secondly, enough with comments about the beatdown Margarito gave Cintron. He looked good in his last fight and no one can deny that. That knockout was brutal. I think Manny Steward is doing a good job with Cintron and now he has something to prove. Stop comparing Cintron to what he used to because the circumstances have changed.
I would love to see more of Paul Williams, I think he is exceptionally talented, although i would want him to move up in weight.
Unfortunately, Williams doesnt have great power at 147, so i think moving up would only make that more apparent. I think he is good to stay at 147. He should try for a shot at Mayweather. Personally, I would like him to give Marg a rematch, but i dont think he has to. I think it would be better to try to get to mayweather first before any rematch, because I think he has better chances against PBF than in a rematch with Marg. If williams would work on his power he would be a dominating force, but I think Marg showed that if you just dont worry about getting hit a lot by his punches you can get in and do damage. It took Marg too long to figure that out, but now your Cottos, Cintrons, and Mosleys know that, and that could spell trouble for PWill in the future.
I just don't think the weight division he is right now is his natural weight. He was pretty weight drained when fighting Margarito. But you are right though, where he is right now has more competition.
I would love to see more of Paul Williams, I think he is exceptionally talented, although i would want him to move up in weight.
why? not saying your opinion is not valid, but why? all the big fights today are at 147. it is the glamour division.
Williams took a beating from Margarito. And i doubt we see him this year, he took a beating!
Too bad he wont give Margarito a rematch...
this coming from a guy with george lopex as his avatar. i can see who's side you are on? were you at carson, california on july 14th?
there is zero talk of him in any fight. none at all. for some reason i could see him not fighting the rest of the year and only put in one fight for 2007.
all these tv slots are being filled up and still no PW talk. anybody got anything?:boxing:
I hope so, but dobt it.;
First off, i didnt say it was like Hopkins-taylor in the fight itself, i mean in what the guys looked like after the fight. PWill was beat up. He was. I believe he won the fight. I dont think it was as far apart a score as you have declared. I think it was more like 7-5 or 8-4, and I dont think that's a stretch at all.
Secondly, margarito did beat cintron, but what does that have to do with Pwill? My response was about Cintron fighting Pwill. I dont believe the crap about, "well A beat B, and C beat A, so C can beat B." I dont think Pwill beats Marg again, and i certainly dont think he beats Cintron. I like PWill, this isnt and anti PWill thing, it's just what i think would happen. In fact, i think Pwill has a shot to outpoint Mayweather if they fought, I just dont see him "knocking anyone's brakes off."
ok true, but you only gave marg 4-5 rounds because he did not look as bad as he did in those rounds you scored for williams. margarito only outboxed paul in 2 rounds maaaaaybe 3. anymore and you're just playing yourself.
on the triangle theory. i dont believe in it either, but cintron cried like a ho, and paul made margarito look pedestrian.
First off, i didnt say it was like Hopkins-taylor in the fight itself, i mean in what the guys looked like after the fight. PWill was beat up. He was. I believe he won the fight. I dont think it was as far apart a score as you have declared. I think it was more like 7-5 or 8-4, and I dont think that's a stretch at all.
Secondly, margarito did beat cintron, but what does that have to do with Pwill? My response was about Cintron fighting Pwill. I dont believe the crap about, "well A beat B, and C beat A, so C can beat B." I dont think Pwill beats Marg again, and i certainly dont think he beats Cintron. I like PWill, this isnt and anti PWill thing, it's just what i think woudl happen. In fact, i think Pwill has a shot to outpoint Mayweather if they fought, I just dont see him "knocking anyone's breaks off."
Good post. Nice to see one of the newbies thinks before he types.
shut your cocksucker up. that fight was no where near identical to hopkins-taylor. i love Pun haters, cuz they only seen one fight. i bet you didnt know paul went to the hospital in puerto rico like a week b4 the fight. he had an injured hand and rib and he took those body punches like a pro. even if he wasnt hurt, he schooled margarito. marg only really won 2 rounds. if you gave him anymore than that you are stretching. :owned:
btw isnt margarito the same guy that mad cintron bawl like a baby without his pacifier and rattle?
First off, i didnt say it was like Hopkins-taylor in the fight itself, i mean in what the guys looked like after the fight. PWill was beat up. He was. I believe he won the fight. I dont think it was as far apart a score as you have declared. I think it was more like 7-5 or 8-4, and I dont think that's a stretch at all.
Secondly, margarito did beat cintron, but what does that have to do with Pwill? My response was about Cintron fighting Pwill. I dont believe the crap about, "well A beat B, and C beat A, so C can beat B." I dont think Pwill beats Marg again, and i certainly dont think he beats Cintron. I like PWill, this isnt and anti PWill thing, it's just what i think would happen. In fact, i think Pwill has a shot to outpoint Mayweather if they fought, I just dont see him "knocking anyone's brakes off."
P-dub lost a lot of my respect when I found out that he turned down the Marg rematch, there may be more to the story but that is the general statement I heard.
Margarito didn't want to fight Paul until he was his mandatory... I don't see why Williams shouldn't return the favor and make Margarito work his way up to be Williams's mandatory.
Also, I think the rookie up there was comparing Williams/Margarito to Taylor/Hopkins I because both Taylor and Williams won more rounds, but if it was a contest of who got more damage done to them over the 12 rounds collectively, then Margarito and Hopkins would have won. Neither of them were even remotely hurt throughout their fights, and they both had their opponents at least shaken up a few times.
P-dub lost a lot of my respect when I found out that he turned down the Marg rematch, there may be more to the story but that is the general statement I heard.
why does margarito deserve a rematch? for real, why? thats a step back for Pun and the only reason why this fight should be made is if Paul Williams cant find a dance partner. after paul williams has been chasing margarito around and get passed up, paul deserves to make margarito squirm a little bit. btw margarito stated that he would only have a rematch if it is a top rank event. so now margarito is making the demands? lol! dan goosen won the purse bid and he put the fight in carson, cali. thats home field advantage for margarito, plus two of the judges were from cali with rabid fans screaming everytime marg missed a punch. like i said. margarito won 2 rounds that whole fight. you are stretching if you gave him anymore than 2.:banana:
P-dub lost a lot of my respect when I found out that he turned down the Marg rematch, there may be more to the story but that is the general statement I heard.
shut your cocksucker up. that fight was no where near identical to hopkins-taylor. i love Pun haters, cuz they only seen one fight. i bet you didnt know paul went to the hospital in puerto rico like a week b4 the fight. he had an injured hand and rib and he took those body punches like a pro. even if he wasnt hurt, he schooled margarito. marg only really won 2 rounds. if you gave him anymore than that you are stretching. :owned:
btw isnt margarito the same guy that mad cintron bawl like a baby without his pacifier and rattle?
LMOA Margarito did fold Cintron ass up.:owned:
LOL. Paul Williams wouldnt beat the brakes off of anyone. He outpointed Margarito (barely, but he did win), but Margarito beat him up (sort of like Hopkins v. Taylor 1, where Taylor won but had the crap kicked out of him) Had Margarito applied pressure earlier PWill would have been beat bad. Margarito got through to PWill, and Cintron is faster than Marg and punches harder. PWills light arm flicks will not stop cintron from coming in on him.
shut your cocksucker up. that fight was no where near identical to hopkins-taylor. i love Pun haters, cuz they only seen one fight. i bet you didnt know paul went to the hospital in puerto rico like a week b4 the fight. he had an injured hand and rib and he took those body punches like a pro. even if he wasnt hurt, he schooled margarito. marg only really won 2 rounds. if you gave him anymore than that you are stretching. :owned:
btw isnt margarito the same guy that mad cintron bawl like a baby without his pacifier and rattle?
williams would beat the brakes off of cintron.
LOL. Paul Williams wouldnt beat the brakes off of anyone. He outpointed Margarito (barely, but he did win), but Margarito beat him up (sort of like Hopkins v. Taylor 1, where Taylor won but had the crap kicked out of him) Had Margarito applied pressure earlier PWill would have been beat bad. Margarito got through to PWill, and Cintron is faster than Marg and punches harder. PWills light arm flicks will not stop cintron from coming in on him.
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