thoughts???
p.s. this isnt about who would win if they fought each other
this is about who you think is the better and has accomplished more so far in their respective careers
And Cotto has beat who in their prime? Everyone he has faced.
And Cotto has beat who that is good? No one.
Zab Judah, good for the first 4 rounds, and then he stops. Cotto might have gotten credit if he had beaten Zab in a 4 round fight, but other than that, no dice
Yea but punching another man in the balls has a hard effect on the decision of the fight... Yup it was ACCIDENTAL right after he got rocked by Judah. Cotto is dirtier than a bangkok hooker the morning after the navy left town.
Hatton wants to fight the best and biggest names, whos left after Mayweather apart from Cotto for him really? Malignaggi is not worth it and shutting witter up will only give him personal satisfaction
maybe williams lol that would be a really bad match up for hatton
hatton has a better resume
hatton is the better fighter
cotto and hatton would be a great match up but i cant see cotto beating hatton. i think both fighters would get hurt in in the fight both fighters will land good punches i think it would go down to who has the best chin and the most hart if they were to meat i would go with hatton late round K.O
say if cotto lose to mosley and hatton loses to mayweather (as i expect but wouldnt be suprised if it didnt turn out that way) do you think hatton and cotto would happen then? or only if they both win there fights?
Hatton wants to fight the best and biggest names, whos left after Mayweather apart from Cotto for him really? Malignaggi is not worth it and shutting witter up will only give him personal satisfaction
hatton has a better resume
hatton is the better fighter
cotto and hatton would be a great match up but i cant see cotto beating hatton. i think both fighters would get hurt in in the fight both fighters will land good punches i think it would go down to who has the best chin and the most hart if they were to meat i would go with hatton late round K.O
say if cotto lose to mosley and hatton loses to mayweather (as i expect but wouldnt be suprised if it didnt turn out that way) do you think hatton and cotto would happen then? or only if they both win there fights?
If Hatton beats Mayweather then he should call Cotto to England. If he wins this and is no 1 p4p then everyone should come to Ricky.
Ricky and Cotto is the next big fight imo
Cotto getting hurt
Corley, Torres, Judah all hurt Miguel Cotto. (Torres even got a knock down)
but didn't Cotto end up knocking out all 3 anyway?
no way Cotto has a bad chin. if he did, he already would have knocked out by now.
Cotto and Hatton are hard to compare, but to an extent I feel both are slightly unproven. (due to lack of prime elite opponent. which is TBD at a later date)
yes they've both won world titles (at 140 and 147), and are undefeated.
but unless they fight each other (doubtful) .. any chance it happens? its hard to determine who's the better of the 2.
and what I mean by slightly unproven .. both Cotto and Hatton have their biggest fights of there careers coming up in later 2007.
**again I would really like to see a Hatton/Cotto fight sometime in the near future. there relatively young, being 26 and 28, and have huge loyal fan bases. not to mention a victory over the other would be a pretty big fight (at welter outside of Mosley and Mayweather for the time being ... Cotto is a name Hatton might wanna consider fighting (its bigger than any 140 pounder right now)
but all this is moot, because depending on how Cotto/Mosley and Mayweather/Hatton turn out. there's a lotta different sub plots and shit that could develop.
who fights who .. etc.
A 36 yr old lightweight with a history of injuries and lapses of inactivity.
Gosh. I've LONG been critical of Zoo. Even prior to the Hatton fight. Every time someone talked about "the great Kostya Tszyu" (esp lampley), I would always ask myself what made this guy so great. What skins did he have on the wall?
I have to force some logic and consistency here: You can't praise Zoo for beating Judah, and then denigrate Judah as an opponent for somebody else... esp the April '06 Judah.
Lightweight????
What made him great? A combination of things - an unbelievable amateur record, fighting former champs in his something like his 4th pro fight, winning the title in his 14th, dominating his division for the best part of a decade and destroying just about every fighter he ever faced including FAR superior versions of Judah and Mitchell to the ones that Floyd faced.
BTW, Mosley's older than Tszyu when he fought Hatton and has more miles on the clock. Mosley's also nowhere on the p4p lists where as KT was top 3.
A 36 yr old lightweight with a history of injuries and lapses of inactivity.
Gosh. I've LONG been critical of Zoo. Even prior to the Hatton fight. Every time someone talked about "the great Kostya Tszyu" (esp lampley), I would always ask myself what made this guy so great. What skins did he have on the wall?
I have to force some logic and consistency here: You can't praise Zoo for beating Judah, and then denigrate Judah as an opponent for somebody else... esp the April '06 Judah.
A lightweight? Zoo? come on...
so fighting a guy at 2am who happen to be in his forst fight in 2.5 years is considered a prime fighter....He only quit because his leg was sore from Hatton fucking him all night... Cotto dominates Hatton squeaks by in his fights
and who would that be? certainly not Zoo, since he just destroyed Mitchell and EVERYONE on this side of the atlantic was picking him to destroy Hatton too
cotto was only hurt in two fights and hatton eas hurt against collazo
And what two fights are those? I haven't even seen a bunch of Cotto fights, and I know both Judah and Corley hurt him.
I wasn't saying Ricky has never been hurt either, I was just saying that Cotto doesn't dominate all of his fights. He gets hit too much to "dominate" all of his fights.
so fighting a guy at 2am who happen to be in his forst fight in 2.5 years is considered a prime fighter....He only quit because his leg was sore from Hatton fucking him all night... Cotto dominates Hatton squeaks by in his fights
Is that why Cotto gets hurt in almost every fight?
Tszyu was not an old man; he was coming off the best performance of his career, was rarely in wars, and had little professional wear and tear. He was older, but not old and was still better than Judah. Hatton's best win is better than anything Cotto has done (yet) but Cotto has a greater breadth of wins.
so fighting a guy at 2am who happen to be in his forst fight in 2.5 years is considered a prime fighter....He only quit because his leg was sore from Hatton fucking him all night... Cotto dominates Hatton squeaks by in his fights
hatton has a better resume
cotto is the better fighter
Agree, but I think if Cotto beats Mosley, they would be pretty equal in their resumes.
Ofcourse, if Hatton beats Mayweather then he would be ahead again.
Tszyu was not an old man; he was coming off the best performance of his career, was rarely in wars, and had little professional wear and tear. He was older, but not old and was still better than Judah. Hatton's best win is better than anything Cotto has done (yet) but Cotto has a greater breadth of wins.
They are in their PHYSICAL primes. they aren't old men or shot due to wars.
They may not be "peak". That is arguable. But 26-29 years old is mosdef prime. Except for vargas...lol
Even if they are in their physical primes, no one really considers that to be what is the most important thing. No one gave Hopkins shit for losing to Jones back in 1993, because it was obvious that Hopkins didn't know what he was doing (compared to what he knows today, for god sake, he tried to outbox Jones!).
Malignaggi was probably not too far off from where he is today, to be honest.
But it is pretty obvious that Judah's mind is shot to pieces.
At least Cotto has beaten good fighters in their primes: Malignaggi and Judah.
Hatton has not done that yet.
Malignaggi was pre-prime. He's just entering his prime now.
and Judah may be a little post prime
At least Cotto has beaten good fighters in their primes: Malignaggi and Judah.
Hatton has not done that yet.
If this is Judah's prime, it's not the prime of a good fighter.
I personallt think Judah is a good fighter, who is coming off losses and a long layoff. Not quite prime.