How would Prime Roy Jones do in the 1980's?

sorry i dont really understand this! in the 90s you got the most fearsome punchers. Even though he could beat some but some injuries dont exactly heal properly so it would be hard for him to win all of the MW of the 90s or even some. espically you got guy from England too that are pretty good. If people havent notice on Hagler record after winning the title he was fighting 2 to 1 fight per year from when he was fighting 4 fight or more

sorry i dont really understand this! in the 90s you got the most fearsome punchers. Even though he could beat some but some injuries dont exactly heal properly so it would be hard for him to win all of the MW of the 90s or even some. espically you got guy from England too that are pretty good. If people havent notice on Hagler record after winning the title he was fighting 2 to 1 fight per year from when he was fighting 4 fight or more

I with you on this one. But Hagler could beat many of the top MW but not all and I dont think if he took them all he would be okay. Because taking punishment from many of these guy like G-Man and Julian Jackson Eubank is hurting his career too. sorry i dont really understand this!

yes EASILY!!! roy was great and IMO would beat leonard hearns duran and possibly hagler but it would not be a walk i thepark against any of these! I with you on this one. But Hagler could beat many of the top MW but not all and I dont think if he took them all he would be okay. Because taking punishment from many of these guy like G-Man and Julian Jackson Eubank is hurting his career too.

I have little doubt that Roy Jones of the 90s would have held his own in that era, he was just to damn fast

Roy is much better than Hagler if SRL could use his speed what would you think Roy would do? Another thing could Hagler stand the MW of the 90s? yes EASILY!!! roy was great and IMO would beat leonard hearns duran and possibly hagler but it would not be a walk i thepark against any of these!

Roy is much better than Hagler if SRL could use his speed what would you think Roy would do? Another thing could Hagler stand the MW of the 90s?

I think some people forget how good roy was..

They would all lose to Roy. Prime Roy at MW was unbeatable in my opinion although I do think Hagler would make a trilogy out of them facing off against one another most likely. Spinks is also another story I don't think Roy could topple him at LHW....

Wow even another crazy un thought out list of uninformed posters. Styles makes fights. Leonard is my favorite fighter of all time, but pound per pound is the only way you can compare him to Roy. Had he fought roy.. I suggest you all do your homework. Leonard beat most fighters due to his speed, when he had to dig deep he could overwhelm "welterweights" with his comination of speed and power. Heart is a finalizing factor when you have the other attributes that allow you to overcome equal foes or fighters who may not have the tools to deal with you. Remember Gotti vs Mayweather. Gotti had all the heart in the world....Well Had Ray fought Jones at middleweight...Before I answer this...one thing you all should know is that ray nd Roy did spar in 1988 and it was ugly for ray. He even admitted that he was shocked by Roy's hand speed and was glad Roy was not fighting when he was around due to his awkardness. John scully saw the Sparring session and asked Roy Sr. to release the footage but out of repsect for Ray, they will not. Ray also said he was drinking some beers before , and was trying to recruit roy to his then new boxing Team...roy turned him down. However, back to what would happen. Roy would completely overwhelm a peak Leonard who would have to come up to Roy. Roy was faster at middle with his one-two and his left hook, than Ray was at welter. Ray combinations were faster, but they would not have any impact on a prime Roy who simply at middleweight was too big and strong for Ray. It actually would be sadd sight for my favorite fighter of all time. Roy vs Hearns. I think you all forgot about roys speed/power combo at Middleweight. If Ray hurt Heanrs everytime he truly hit him @ welter what do you thnk Roy would do at middleweight. Lest you all forget that he had like 20ko's in 21 fights before he fought Hopkins. I know they were not world class fighters, but neither were Ray leonard first 25 fights, before facing Andy price. Roy vs hagle is the most valid fight. However if you go back to Hagler issues with antefermo, and then with Duran. you see his challenges with fighters that could box. I read that some on here say roy simply had speed and was based on instinct and made a lot of mistakes but not a great boxer. Wow...come on...so what. The end result is that people could not hit him, and vs a fighter like hagler he would have field day as did a out of boxing for 5years leonard did vs a 34 year old hagler. Yes hagler was a bit removed from his peak vs leoanrd, but was he vs Duran or antefermo.. Even when he faced Leonard he just beat the best threat he ever faced in a undefeated mugabi who had like 25 kos in 25 fights...was a solid jr middle and middle...The reason he beat all these other fighters convincingly is because they came straight at hagler and allow for his brutal counter punching attack..Roy would never fight hagler like this... I suggest some of you do your research and make well informed post so that your logic is understood. It is completley absurd to think that Leonard would have a chance vs a Prime Roy. It is a simply a bigger stronger faster version of himself.

RJJ showboated against bums and then beat James Toney who had weight problems. Then refused to fight Hopkins again. Then went after John Ruiz one of the worst HW ever. Wow this is a huge accomplishment. I agree with you RJJ is great!! he can beat SRL Hagler and Hearns?? Based on what I said :boxing: bullshit. Hopkins priced himself out of fighting Jones a second time. that's what it is and nothing else. Jones being 3 division champ, the bigger draw and having beat hopkins already offered 60-40, which would have been Hopkins career high payday. Hopkins turned it down. You do the math on who "refused" who. BTW, if Jones win over Toney is not valid because Toney had to drain a lot of weight, Leonard win over Duran is not valid for the same reason. Leonard and Hearns were great ay 47-54. Jones was great at 60-68. Jones kicks those smaller asses any day of the week.

Roy definitly will beat Hagler. Hagler was slow and loved to brawl Roy speed and power could make some trouble for him espically many of Hagler big win are against people who are lesser size than him Hagler was more of a boxer-puncher than a brawler. His most high-profile wins are against guys like Duran, Mugabi (a ranked contender at both 154 and 160) and Hearns, but Hagler beat plenty of quality middleweights of the time.

bullshit, Jones was only hurt at 35 a 175. Now let me see, how many times was Hagler hit at 175? NONE Is it Jones' fault that p4p #2 Toney comes out of shape to fight (and its not at 160, but at 168). Hopkins "as green as they get" LOL dont sound ridiculous Hopkins was 28 and had 23 pro fights. He might have become a little bit better later, but as green as they get...LOL Virgil Hill, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin... all nobodies right? ridiculous... bullshit, Jones was only hurt at 35 a 175. Now let me see, how many times was Hagler hit at 175? NONE Is it Jones' fault that p4p #2 Toney comes out of shape to fight (and its not at 160, but at 168). Hopkins "as green as they get" LOL dont sound ridiculous Hopkins was 28 and had 23 pro fights. He might have become a little bit better later, but as green as they get...LOL Virgil Hill, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin... all nobodies right? ridiculous... LOL, you are just dreaming. "with great power and accuracy" two welterweights would KO a champ at 160-168-175... based on what? him being knocked out at 35? what were Hearns and Leonard doing at 35? it seems like you dont know, because otherwise you would shut up. "Hagler is a fucking monster"... Hagler is my favourite fighter ever, and still I am not so blind to not see that if Leonard could get under the skin of Hagler and get the W, so could Jones. Get real, stop hating. yeah i agree i think jones could beat leonard and hearns i think he would have some struggles with hagler but he has a chance of winning that match as well jones can be a problem in any era of boxing in my opinion

RJJ would not stand a chance against Hagler

RJJ showboated against bums and then beat James Toney who had weight problems. Then refused to fight Hopkins again. Then went after John Ruiz one of the worst HW ever. Wow this is a huge accomplishment. I agree with you RJJ is great!! he can beat SRL Hagler and Hearns?? Based on what I said :boxing: well going up it weight and winning a title is something big. and you think those are bum because Roy makes them look like a bum but some of them are pretty good fighters. It like Mayweather-Gatti. Gatti is a decent fighter but Mayweather made him look bad

So it's Roy's fault James Toney had to lose a lot of weight in the biggest fight of Toney's career. As for Roy not giving Hopkins a rematch Neither did Sugar Ray Leonard with Duran, Hearns and Hagler He gave Duran a rematch,but it was 8 years later when he felt he was much easier to beat and the same with Hearns. You didnt see Ray wanting to give Duran a 3rd fight in 1981 because he knew Duran would be motivated and come in like the June 1980 Duran. After watching Hearns knock Duran out in the 2nd round in 1984,you didnt see Ray wanting to come out of retirement and challenge Tommy at 154. Roy wanted it to be 60-40 in the rematch and Hopkins is the one who turned it down. If you want a rematch that bad,why worry about Roy getting 60-40 over you. He beat you the 1st time and was the pound for pound 1# fighter at the time so he deserved it.

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RJJ showboated against bums and then beat James Toney who had weight problems. Then refused to fight Hopkins again. Then went after John Ruiz one of the worst HW ever. Wow this is a huge accomplishment. I agree with you RJJ is great!! he can beat SRL Hagler and Hearns?? Based on what I said :boxing: best post ever, not stupid nor totally false at all, it has not been ever proven that the guy who posts it writes out of his ass...:ugh:

LOL, you are just dreaming. "with great power and accuracy" two welterweights would KO a champ at 160-168-175... based on what? him being knocked out at 35? what were Hearns and Leonard doing at 35? it seems like you dont know, because otherwise you would shut up. "Hagler is a fucking monster"... Hagler is my favourite fighter ever, and still I am not so blind to not see that if Leonard could get under the skin of Hagler and get the W, so could Jones. Get real, stop hating. RJJ showboated against bums and then beat James Toney who had weight problems. Then refused to fight Hopkins again. Then went after John Ruiz one of the worst HW ever. Wow this is a huge accomplishment. I agree with you RJJ is great!! he can beat SRL Hagler and Hearns?? Based on what I said :boxing:

Just because Hagler is old school doesnt mean a shit. Because Hagler big win where against former WW so it looks good at paper and he was actully coming into the ring at a LHW he is a huge guy. Roy on the other hand went up on weight and fought people who are actully could punch as hard as Hagler and he speed is phenomnal. Hagler never faced anyone as Jones too, He is fast, powerful and similar size. bullshit, plain and simple. Hagler weighed in under 160 in the era of same day weigh-ins. His walk around weight was probably very close to 160