Before you flame me, this is a serious thread. The punch and hold technique is indeed a skill and it occured to me that there have been many successful fighters incorporating such a technique (one other of note is John Ruiz and Bernard Hopkins as of late). If you look at Hatton's technique though, it's flawless. Study him and you willl see how he seemlessly seems to punch and then flow into the clinch position right after the impact of his punches. I'm not crazy about this technique but he uses it very effectively and no doubt has consciously honed it with practice over the years and it has brought him success.
Kardashian has a ridiculous ass. Links below.
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/upload/2007/06/kkass4.jpg
http://www.breakingnewsusa.com/news/2007/05/14/kim_kardashian_cant_keep_her_h.html
That may be why she only dates black guys. White dudes aren't packing enough to hit her spot.
Hey bro, be careful. I say this because I believe Kim is Armenian, so you might have opened up a can of worms here. You might have just enticed our favorite Armenian advocate and fellow poster, VANESBOXING, to include Kim Kardashian in his avatar as "the undefeated penis %*#%! pride of Armenia".
He might do this for awhile, all the while swearing to us that Kim is indeed the best penis *%&$# around for her weight class and seemingly indestructible. Until the unthinkable happens and Kim is subsequently KTFO by a hot chick from the Phillippines and then we never hear from him again.
:P
Ignorant, childish ass cop-out since I'm not a boxer you dumb ass, I'm a fan with an opinion just like you. Except mine seems to be more rational.
Incoherent..
^^What the fuck does this have to do with his shitty ass hold and hit style, or you for that matter?
In response to all your 'points'
You said 'LMAO @ some of you hypocrites praising Hatton for holding!'
Most of us were not praising him for holding, we were merely pointing out that his style is effective and that it is a style used by many and has been used by many for several years.
As for my childish cop out, hmmm OK, firstly how was your statement rational?, secondly we are hypocrites for apparently praising Hatton's style?
When have we not praised his style we would then make us hypocritical???
And my statement about 'showing your belts' was directed at you because you obviously dislike Hatton's style yet you mock us for defending it, quote 'LMAO' even though his style is not the point its the success he has had with it that's relevant, therefore by all means have an opinion but don't mock us about ours unless of course you yourself are a two weight World Champion? That was my point.
Oh and if it was anything it was slightly arrogant not ignorant because I obviously knew you were not a World Title holder!
Hatton does seem to be doing OK, how is that incoherent???
And as for what does his style have to do with what he has earnt, well everything actually, first his style has earned him his titles which in turn has earned him his shot against Mayweather not to mention his huge following which in turn has led to the networks courting him to show his fights etc etc
Therefore it has everything to do with his style.
His style you may not like but it is effective and it has placed him in a position most of us envy.
BTW before you reply I wonder if you can get through your response without reverting to cheap insults as they mean fuck all mate, after all you are 1000's of miles away from me which kind of defeats the object.
Kardashian has a ridiculous ass. Links below.
http://www.fresnobeehive.com/archives/upload/2007/06/kkass4.jpg
http://www.breakingnewsusa.com/news/2007/05/14/kim_kardashian_cant_keep_her_h.html
That may be why she only dates black guys. White dudes aren't packing enough to hit her spot.
^^^^^^
good shit
Just so we are certain can we see your World Title belts?
Ignorant, childish ass cop-out since I'm not a boxer you dumb ass, I'm a fan with an opinion just like you. Except mine seems to be more rational.
Only Hatton seems to be doing OK wouldn't you say?
Incoherent..
After all he will be earning enough money to retire in luxury after December so again he cant be doing too bad can he?
^^What the fuck does this have to do with his shitty ass hold and hit style, or you for that matter?
LMAO @ some of you hypocrites praising Hatton for holding!
Just so we are certain can we see your World Title belts? Only Hatton seems to be doing OK wouldn't you say?
After all he will be earning enough money to retire in luxury after December so again he cant be doing too bad can he?
well some fighters do it, and peopel don't notice it. ive seen hollyfield do it a few times... how the hell u think he got so close that his ear got bitten lol
To my understanding excessive clinching is not allowed in boxing but an exception has been made for Hatton and other fighters latelely. This is not a style this shit is ruining the sport and others are adopting it
yeah it like there was one thread made recently about the sport and excitment factor.
Hatton is pretty excitign when he is not clincing but Hatton shbould reliese he may have trouble in the future if he keeps doing this, what if Nady was ref the fight what he will do about it because Nady was taking out Rahman Olgea fight and warned Olge for clinching.
but it a good stratgey to win, Hopkins did it worse he clinching from back of the neck and made his oppenet bow down and then hit them with a couple of bodyshot or hit to the head
THIS TOPIC JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH HATTON SUCKS I MEAN COME ON INSTEAD OF MASTERING FIGHTING AND BOXING HE HAS MASTERED HOLDING OH LET ME GET IT RIGHT PUNCH THEN HOLD. I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE HE HOLDS AND HOLDS AND HOLDS HATTON IS :lame:
SHUT YOUR GUMS BOYO
It works extremely well for Hatton. if you watch most of his fights you will see that it isn't exactly holding or clinching, he feints and smothers his opponent with his nearest arm and throws with his free arm, at the same time he uses the leverage he has gained by the position to pivot his opponent and smash in the hooks.
This technique has been used by many fighters for decades but Hatton seems to have perfected it, the reason why he 'gets away with it' is simple, he throws a huge volume of punches from different sides and angles therefore most referees do not deem it as clinching or hitting and holding.
Look through the tapes and you will find that it is hardly mentioned by the referees during the fights or by his losing opponents after the fights!
To my understanding excessive clinching is not allowed in boxing but an exception has been made for Hatton and other fighters latelely. This is not a style this shit is ruining the sport and others are adopting it
It's not a new thing; look at some grainy videos, it was much worse at the beginning of the last century
THIS TOPIC JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH HATTON SUCKS I MEAN COME ON INSTEAD OF MASTERING FIGHTING AND BOXING HE HAS MASTERED HOLDING OH LET ME GET IT RIGHT PUNCH THEN HOLD. I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE HE HOLDS AND HOLDS AND HOLDS HATTON IS :lame:It's not "lame" it's smart...
Dont criticise Hatton for it. You have to try and overcome what Hatton does so well. PBF will try to overcome what noone has done so far.
Hatton has short arms so he is never far from holding unless hes hitting you close in with body punches.
THIS TOPIC JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH HATTON SUCKS I MEAN COME ON INSTEAD OF MASTERING FIGHTING AND BOXING HE HAS MASTERED HOLDING OH LET ME GET IT RIGHT PUNCH THEN HOLD. I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE HE HOLDS AND HOLDS AND HOLDS HATTON IS :lame:
Dont criticise Hatton for it. You have to try and overcome what Hatton does so well. PBF will try to overcome what noone has done so far.
Hatton has short arms so he is never far from holding unless hes hitting you close in with body punches.
To my understanding excessive clinching is not allowed in boxing but an exception has been made for Hatton and other fighters latelely. This is not a style this shit is ruining the sport and others are adopting it
WOW...:ugh: Porque Dominicano yo creo el gran campeon de welterweight es este Sugar Ray Leonard
His comment was meant as a criticism towards Hatton, not praise.