Facts about RJJ and Hopkins!!!

Wow.. You clearly are immature. I hope you talk like this in real life. Lol.. So people can not only laugh at you online but to your face, aswell. McNulty, dont you see what is happening here? You are getting into a battle of wits against an unarmed man! LOL

Wow.. You clearly are immature. I hope you talk like this in real life. Lol.. So people can not only laugh at you online but to your face, aswell. People? Thats plural...you need a singular version. Educated reasoning...ermm...ya thats always par for ridicule. :bryce:

You call a close fight an ass beating. Jones only won by like 2 rounds. Thats not an ass beating. An ass beating is a one-sided match like forrest-baldomir, calzaghe-lacy and Kessler-andrade. Putting Baldomir-Forrest in the same leauge as JC-JL and MK-LA seems insane.

FACT: Roy Jones ran through 3 divisions knocking out or ridiculising everyone in front of him for 15 years. At the tender age of 35, he got KOed in a division where he was systemativally the smaller man in the ring. Now do yourself a favor and check what were the following fighters doing at 35. Pernell Whitaker Ray Leonard Ray Robinson anything like what they were doing at 30? shut up

You call a close fight an ass beating. Jones only won by like 2 rounds. Thats not an ass beating. An ass beating is a one-sided match like forrest-baldomir, calzaghe-lacy and Kessler-andrade. Roy beat him with one hand. That's an ass beating.

Wow.. You clearly are immature. I hope you talk like this in real life. Lol.. So people can not only laugh at you online but to your face, aswell.

I said he had no chin because the only time he got pressured by fighters, he got dropped, HARD. That's fact. Gaha...wrong again. Bhop...Toney...Sosa...Brannon...Hill all pressured him heavy. Didnt git K'd then did he? Your getting :owned: religously this week man. RJj only got pressured twice in 50 fights? Ok sure...we'll buy that one. Fundamentals are opinion. I shared mine, you shared yours. We disagree. Tell me what is hating about that? Fundamentals are not opinion....lolz. If you cant see yousa hater...my condolences. Your out numbered...out gunned...and out manuevered. Retreating is not that bad man. Try it out...you might learn something. Also, we can't SPECULATE on why else he'd go down. Fact is, he got punched, and went down. That's fact. And since it's what McNulty asked for, it's what I went with. Its not speculation its fact...muscular atrophy causes motor skill latency...and dulling of the senses.

That's incorrect C-Drone. He has taken shots like that is his career & hadn't gone down like he did against Tarver & Johnson. Merqui Sosa & a few others pressured him like that & he wasn't KO'ed. Hell, even John Ruiz tagged Roy with a good right hand in the first round of their fight & Roy didn't go down. He wasn't PRESSURED in those fights though, for one. Also, we can't SPECULATE on why else he'd go down. Fact is, he got punched, and went down. That's fact. And since it's what McNulty asked for, it's what I went with.

I said he had no chin because the only time he got pressured by fighters, he got dropped, HARD. That's fact. Fundamentals are opinion. I shared mine, you shared yours. We disagree. I never said he can't box. That's ridiculous. I said that he boxed EXCEPTIONALLY, based off of natural skills he possessed that he honed with training. (Not fundamnetals, in my opinion, but NATURAL SKILLS) Doesn't matter how he did it, but he had a GREAT career. Tell me what is hating about that? As far as best I'll ever see in my life.. Stick to facts. (Like you said) You can't make my opinions for me, so don't try. Thanks. That's incorrect C-Drone. He has taken shots like that is his career & hadn't gone down like he did against Tarver & Johnson. Merqui Sosa & a few others pressured him like that & he wasn't KO'ed. Hell, even John Ruiz tagged Roy with a good right hand in the first round of their fight & Roy didn't go down.

I said he had no chin because the only time he got pressured by fighters, he got dropped, HARD. That's fact. Fundamentals are opinion. I shared mine, you shared yours. We disagree. I never said he can't box. That's ridiculous. I said that he boxed EXCEPTIONALLY, based off of natural skills he possessed that he honed with training. (Not fundamnetals, in my opinion, but NATURAL SKILLS) Doesn't matter how he did it, but he had a GREAT career. Tell me what is hating about that? As far as best I'll ever see in my life.. Stick to facts. (Like you said) You can't make my opinions for me, so don't try. Thanks.

I didn't agree with you. I was just trying to end the debate. Because it's pointless. We'll never see eye to eye on this. That's all. But you can be immature about this if you'd like. By the way, the world isn't black and white for everyone. There is a grey area. I don't hate Roy.. I just don't LOVE him. He was a really good fighter, and I enjoyed watching some of his fights. Sorry I don't want to fuck him. He's only a fighter. Lighten up. Hes the best you'll ever see in your life. I get perplexed when people hate just to be different and thats the diagnosis here. Saying hes no chin, no fundamentals, cant box...when he was like the best is hate man. What is it...praise? Give credit where credit is due...its cleansing. If you wanna end it then stop posting in this thread. Simple... The thread is about facts...not bias speculative hate.

I didn't agree with you. I was just trying to end the debate. Because it's pointless. We'll never see eye to eye on this. That's all. But you can be immature about this if you'd like. By the way, the world isn't black and white for everyone. There is a grey area. I don't hate Roy.. I just don't LOVE him. He was a really good fighter, and I enjoyed watching some of his fights. Sorry I don't want to fuck him. He's only a fighter. Lighten up.

You can argue you with me all you want. Ask any true trainer, who isn't biased. He'll tell you, fundamentally, Roy wasn't the best fighter. I'm not selling him short. He did A LOT in this sport. I was a fan of his for most of his career, and thought that for a while, in his division, he was unbeatable. I'm just calling it like I see it. But, good argument. I have and they've agreed w/me. Trainers you seen in corners on ESPN, HBO...etc. They known the art and have insight. Funny I was saying this before and this is a 3x repeat and C-Drone only agrees cuz half the board is on me side now. Your such a phoney dude. Its good cuz its true. Yousa hater...just admit it. I used to be a serious SRL hater till I got older. Now Ima fan. Yousa hater...just admit it man. You'de git more respect.

You can argue you with me all you want. Ask any true trainer, who isn't biased. He'll tell you, fundamentally, Roy wasn't the best fighter. I'm not selling him short. He did A LOT in this sport. I was a fan of his for most of his career, and thought that for a while, in his division, he was unbeatable. I'm just calling it like I see it. But, good argument.

McNulty, You are one of the few guys on here who uses logic,good sense, and a knowledge of the fight game when proving your point. Truly Refreshing! I hate to brag but hence my sig. Thank you as well sir :fing02:. You sound like a man of reason. Theres a few guys here that team up and try every way possible to discredit me. Leave a comment on me profile so when these chimps send me assh°le pm's they'll see what their up against. They wanna see whats really up...come and git it I say. :la:

1. How do you think he got that athletic ability? Started training since the age of 7...might even be 5. Train anything every day and you git nasty @ it. What did he train again? Boxing...ok...cuz I know you have a hard time counting and stuff. 2. If RJj started boxing as a quasi-toddler, then explain how he got so nasty? 5-7 year olds are not blessed w/athletic ability. Its fact...he ahd the same chances as we all did. Your saying I guy that trains every day, Dad fought Hagler, didint pick up boxing fundamentals along the way? Dude he fought in the olympics and had no boxing fundamentals? Have you ever trained or fought? Interested. If so, how long? Ask any trainer in the biz about Ali's lean back . They all say itsa mistake. Would you say Ali doesnt have boxing fundamentals? Ali and RJj were on very high levels of boxing. Just cuz they did things others would quote as "mistake" doesnt mean its so. Virtuoso's all do unorthodox things cuz they mastered said art...now once you master said art...whats left to master? Magic...thats what. Defy the odds. You also shit on his chin. Guy...have you seen any Jones fights? You dont git by Sosa, Brannon, Bhop, Toney, Hill, McCallum, Ruiz w/out a chin. If he didnt have a chin how come he never ever ever showed a single sign of it before Tarver II? Please explain...its IMPOSSIBLE....so hence there must be others external factors as to why. Please dont start some shit about roids making you tougher either. Nerve damage via muscular atrophy sounds more believable to anyone w/a IQ over 75. I dont understand why I have to repeat it. I read a study on animals memory retension and it said that things humans can pick up in 1-3x animals...e.g.: cats, dogs, need about 14x for it to settle in. WTF :smashfrea It is a big deal cuz its FALSE and yousa hater. Give the guy full credit for chissakes. You diss RJj you diss boxing and ultimately yourself. McNulty, You are one of the few guys on here who uses logic,good sense, and a knowledge of the fight game when proving your point. Truly Refreshing!

Do me a small favor....next time you see me git flamed by the likes of Elite or Skelter...bring up this post. They tend to think I've no insight about the art. Thanks for the kind words! no problem man, ill sure do it, elite is a joke anyway......wleter just hates roy....

WHAT A GREAT FUCKING POST....:headbang: Do me a small favor....next time you see me git flamed by the likes of Elite or Skelter...bring up this post. They tend to think I've no insight about the art. Thanks for the kind words!

1. How do you think he got that athletic ability? Started training since the age of 7...might even be 5. Train anything every day and you git nasty @ it. What did he train again? Boxing...ok...cuz I know you have a hard time counting and stuff. 2. If RJj started boxing as a quasi-toddler, then explain how he got so nasty? 5-7 year olds are not blessed w/athletic ability. Its fact...he ahd the same chances as we all did. Your saying I guy that trains every day, Dad fought Hagler, didint pick up boxing fundamentals along the way? Dude he fought in the olympics and had no boxing fundamentals? Have you ever trained or fought? Interested. If so, how long? Ask any trainer in the biz about Ali's lean back . They all say itsa mistake. Would you say Ali doesnt have boxing fundamentals? Ali and RJj were on very high levels of boxing. Just cuz they did things others would quote as "mistake" doesnt mean its so. Virtuoso's all do unorthodox things cuz they mastered said art...now once you master said art...whats left to master? Magic...thats what. Defy the odds. You also shit on his chin. Guy...have you seen any Jones fights? You dont git by Sosa, Brannon, Bhop, Toney, Hill, McCallum, Ruiz w/out a chin. If he didnt have a chin how come he never ever ever showed a single sign of it before Tarver II? Please explain...its IMPOSSIBLE....so hence there must be others external factors as to why. Please dont start some shit about roids making you tougher either. Nerve damage via muscular atrophy sounds more believable to anyone w/a IQ over 75. I dont understand why I have to repeat it. I read a study on animals memory retension and it said that things humans can pick up in 1-3x animals...e.g.: cats, dogs, need about 14x for it to settle in. WTF :smashfrea It is a big deal cuz its FALSE and yousa hater. Give the guy full credit for chissakes. You diss RJj you diss boxing and ultimately yourself. WHAT A GREAT FUCKING POST....:headbang:

I never said that Roy Jones didn't have talent. At all. That would be a lie. I said, he wasn't the most talented BOXER. That's all I said. For example... He had INCREDIBLE athleticism, GREAT speed, WONDERFUL power, UNEARTHLY reflexes. In terms of STRAIGHT boxing fundamentals, he lacked. That's all I said. Not that big of a deal, really. He got pretty far with it. 1. How do you think he got that athletic ability? Started training since the age of 7...might even be 5. Train anything every day and you git nasty @ it. What did he train again? Boxing...ok...cuz I know you have a hard time counting and stuff. 2. If RJj started boxing as a quasi-toddler, then explain how he got so nasty? 5-7 year olds are not blessed w/athletic ability. Its fact...he ahd the same chances as we all did. Your saying I guy that trains every day, Dad fought Hagler, didint pick up boxing fundamentals along the way? Dude he fought in the olympics and had no boxing fundamentals? Have you ever trained or fought? Interested. If so, how long? Ask any trainer in the biz about Ali's lean back . They all say itsa mistake. Would you say Ali doesnt have boxing fundamentals? Ali and RJj were on very high levels of boxing. Just cuz they did things others would quote as "mistake" doesnt mean its so. Virtuoso's all do unorthodox things cuz they mastered said art...now once you master said art...whats left to master? Magic...thats what. Defy the odds. You also shit on his chin. Guy...have you seen any Jones fights? You dont git by Sosa, Brannon, Bhop, Toney, Hill, McCallum, Ruiz w/out a chin. If he didnt have a chin how come he never ever ever showed a single sign of it before Tarver II? Please explain...its IMPOSSIBLE....so hence there must be others external factors as to why. Please dont start some shit about roids making you tougher either. Nerve damage via muscular atrophy sounds more believable to anyone w/a IQ over 75. I dont understand why I have to repeat it. I read a study on animals memory retension and it said that things humans can pick up in 1-3x animals...e.g.: cats, dogs, need about 14x for it to settle in. WTF :smashfrea It is a big deal cuz its FALSE and yousa hater. Give the guy full credit for chissakes. You diss RJj you diss boxing and ultimately yourself.