$ins thread vs $ins favourite fighter

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128224 2005-06-25 floyd mayweather vs arturo gatti gatti was a titlist along with vivian harris and miguel cotto , tszyu was the champion of this divsion. cotto and harris was up and comers coming close to superstar status . gatti was already a name but ducked kostya tszyu and was the weakest title holder at the time when floyd signed , in hindsight you could argue harris considering he lost to muassa on the undercard of gatti-mayweather. 2005-11-19 floyd mayweather vs sharmba mitchell floyd makes hes welterwieght debut having already signed to fight the undistputed champion zab judah. for a warmup he chose a natural 140 fighter who had t move up because he could no longer make 140 plus he was also shot to pieces. in $ins thread he names junior witter has the top fighter at 140 (page 3) if hes so great why didnt he make a defence of hes newly acquired wbc title against newly assigned number 1 ranked challenger junior witter. 2006-04-08 floyd mayweather vs zab judah zab loses hes warmup match to a very big underdog but because of boxing politics is allowed to keep hes ibf title if he signs to fight mayweather. with the ball now solely in floyds court over wether this fight takes place floyd still goes ahead to fight for this paper title against a person coming off a loss to carlos baldomir. 2006-11-04 floyd mayweather vs carlos baldomir floyd realises that hes ibf title is infact bogus and vacates it wich kermit cintron picks up. now a non titlist up at 147 mayweather wants a big fight for another title at the wieght. antonio margorito who was widely considered the number one fighter at the wieght irespected off who was the lineal champion offers flyod mayweather a career high purse of $8m. after he turns the fight down citing nobody knows who margorito is he then signs to fight carlos baldomir. yes baldomir was the lineal champion yes baldomir beat judah and gatti in the same year (zab was favourite but cam in unfocused gatti was even more shot than when mayweather got to him a year previous) but the fact is baldomir was the weakest titlist in the division. hatton and mayweather are doing the exact thing but should they be punnished for it? no it looks good and will look better in years to come but you cant rubbish one and not the other

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This is about those that, currently, rank Mayweather #1 P4P. I can respect anothers' opinion if it makes some sense. :boxing: I agree with your 2nd sentence. but when you are using "Are you trying to say that people whose job it is to follow the sport and write about it don't know what they're talking about?" as a tool to prove Mayweathers ranking, then you have to use the same writers for Hattons rankings.

18y ago

MindBat

You should ask that questions to all of writers that rank Mayweather #1. There are a lot of them. Are you trying to say that people whose job it is to follow the sport and write about it don't know what they're talking about?QUOTE] The same writers who have hatton top 10 P4P, but yet you don't respect their opinion on that matter. double standard?? This is about those that, currently, rank Mayweather #1 P4P. I can respect anothers' opinion if it makes some sense. :boxing:

18y ago

Williamb45

18y ago

MindBat

there just fans like you and me. there opinion dont mean more than mine. I'll give you that. But their's is the most widely accepted. :boxing:

18y ago

MindBat

Question of the hour... You should ask that questions to all of writers that rank Mayweather #1. There are a lot of them. Are you trying to say that people whose job it is to follow the sport and write about it don't know what they're talking about? I'll add... writers and historians with years of experience about the sport.:boxing:

18y ago

Winkyftw

He asked you a plain and basic question. Let me ask again. Who has Fake Floyd beat to deserve his position? Now if you still can't understand that, it's your problem. Oscar De La Hoya 20 pounds over best weight. Genaro Hernandez, who was top 10 of all time in the weight Floyd dominated him in, and a p4p at the time Floyd beat him. Deigo Corrales: A power wrecking ball who didn't land one punch the entire fight pretty much. Castillo: the first fight was EXTREMLY close with one hand, the second was a clear Ud for Mayweather. Judah: Judah is a p4p skill guy with great speed. he was a top 5 welterweight, and maywather once again Ud him. Now let me ask you, who has Tony, Cotto, or Hatton beaten? You're and idiot, noone takes you seriously.

18y ago

Technical_Skill

tech the 13m offer was at 147. the only 140 offer was late 2004 Okay, thanks for clarifying that.

18y ago

iron_mike_tyson

tech the 13m offer was at 147. the only 140 offer was late 2004

18y ago

wolfgang

Morals was shot and wasnt knocked out cold, barrera is was out of his prime but still a good fighter, most think that marquez won but that fight was close, if mayweather was still at 130 he,d knock pacman out, people are making two much of his last two fights, the oscar fight was good but wasnt exciting, the baldomir fight was the only boring floyd fight I seen in awile.

18y ago

wolfgang

Who has pacman beat, a shot morals and a out of his prime barrera those are his two best wins. I love it everytime a floyd hater write an intelligent thread, all the haters come out like a mystery has been revealed, and floyds has finally been found out as a fraud, then technical skill comes on and set all you bias haters straight. Im sick of deabating who floyds fought theres already been a hundred of those threads, but since you dont think floyds a top 10 fighter, why cant you name at least 5 fighters that deserve to be head of floyd in the p4p rankings.

18y ago

bdevils

He asked you a plain and basic question. Let me ask again. Who has Fake Floyd beat to deserve his position? Now if you still can't understand that, it's your problem. You speak of no brains but you have yet to answer anyone's questions or provide any worth while input. You have to be the biggest brainless asshole on this site with your FAKE FLOYD IS FAKE shit. Come get some!!!!

18y ago

El_Jesus

Stop mentioning offers without syndicated press proof of offers of terms. I've seen none of this re: Hatton Mayweather, apart from the recent offer from Hobson and the time where Ricky turned Mayweather down because he wanted a tuneup, then really didn't like 147 (this isn't about that before anyone starts). the part about the 13million was from an interview posted here on boxingscene in which he awknowledged the amount himself, thats coming straight from his own mouth to which he doesnt deny.

18y ago

OptimusWolf

What about the offer when hatton asked for 13 million? Dont tell me hatton was asking mayweather for 13 million before he beat Kostya. Stop mentioning offers without syndicated press proof of offers of terms. I've seen none of this re: Hatton Mayweather, apart from the recent offer from Hobson and the time where Ricky turned Mayweather down because he wanted a tuneup, then really didn't like 147 (this isn't about that before anyone starts).

18y ago

Technical_Skill

the only offer that is known to of been offered to ricky hatton at 140 for floyd mayweather where before both where champs at the wieght team mayweather contacted frank warren for a fight in manchester but hatton turned it down because he wanted kostyas throne. What about the offer when hatton asked for 13 million? Dont tell me hatton was asking mayweather for 13 million before he beat Kostya.

18y ago

iron_mike_tyson

tech skill has got alot of stuff in there that i was not aware of and some that id like to correct the only offer that is known to of been offered to ricky hatton at 140 for floyd mayweather where before both where champs at the wieght team mayweather contacted frank warren for a fight in manchester but hatton turned it down because he wanted kostyas throne. hatton virtually had the baldomir fight signed and sealed until team gatti made a bigger offer for the fight a offer fight academy and banner didnt wanna match or exceed but in all i am happy for the most part this thread has got some serious posters (barring the people saying floyd dont deserve to be p4p1)

18y ago

toyboy33

Damn, Technical is too good.

18y ago

El_Jesus

List your P4P. I need a good laugh... Joe Calzhage Ricky Hatton Wlad Klitschko Lucian Bute Amir Kahn

18y ago

Technical_Skill

Did i miss somthing? What did he do exactly to gain his position-spare me the long winded cherry picking title spree-what fighter of consequence has he beaten to justify the ranking? Okay, Lets try this again, if mayweather is not top 5 p4p Who do you consider the 5 better p4p fighters right now then and why?

18y ago

Easton_Assassin

You dont even consider mayweather a top 5 p4p fighter? :ugh: Lol, figures. Did i miss somthing? What did he do exactly to gain his position-spare me the long winded cherry picking title spree-what fighter of consequence has he beaten to justify the ranking?

18y ago

Technical_Skill

No, he just hung around while Jones and Hopkins lost. Floyd hasn't done shit to solidify a ranking above Pac,or even top 5 p4p. He just waited in line taking no chances to get hias position! You dont even consider mayweather a top 5 p4p fighter? :ugh: Lol, figures.

18y ago