I hear people saying this is the greatest body shot of all time just because castillo is mexican makes no since to me what does race have to with it, hatton landed to good body shots before he landed the punch that punch castillo down. The punch that bernard landed on oscar and the one cotto landed on quintana had the fighters lying on the ground in pain and doesnt come close to the that one roy jones landed on virgil hill that hand him squirming on the canvas.
Castillo just took a knee and looked like morales did in the third fight with pacman like he just couldn,t win he he kinded gave up but I dont blame him because if castillo got up he could have been serioulsy hurt because ricky was throwing the left hook to the body all night and cortez never warned him for holding and hitting but took a point away for a low blow with out warning castillo once and never looked that low in the first place, It would have knocked down a lot of fighters but hatton fans think that this was the 2001 castillo I wouldn,t say hes a shot fighters but I wouldnt be surprised if he retires after this fight. Ricky and floyd will never get the respect they deserve because people think they have never beaten elite fighter in there prime this fight needs to happen so it can be settled once and for all who the better fighter is, I am a floyd fan but I losing respect for him because its always about the money he needs to give back to the sport thats made him a millionare, If floyd doesnt fight cotto or mosley then this is the only fight that should be made and is probably the biggest money fight for floyd besides the oscar rematch because of all of ricky hattons fans.
but you have to realize hatton was throwing left hooks to the body all night
Wolfgang
Good body punchers do tend to throw punches to the body all night...that's why they're good body punchers! It's called softening up the body! A good shot to the body doesn't hurt your legs or arms or head, you may not be able to stand though 'cause to try and stand will just bring on the pain which may last for several minutes.
A guy may look alright but busted ribs or cartilidge or a winding will invariably drop you to your knees. There ain't anything you can do about it till the hurting goes away.
I wonder if more people just dislike Ricky's or any fighters nuthugging fans more than they actually dislike the fighter himself, after all, Ricky is a pro fighter risking his health while lots of others that talk smack are just doing it for kicks or just delusional.
Generally that seems to be the case. It's very obvious to onlookers that the extreme fans are identical to each other, just posting the opposing opinion. Admittedly 'opinion' is too sophisticated a word for many of these people.
Maybe it's me though but the Floyd extremists seem to stay fairly constant wheras the Hattonites rotate and are replaced by new posters. Weird.
I post a lot less than I used to. I usually just read the interesting threads and then bail when 'pwnage' starts.
Occasionally I do bait the fanboys though with a little controversy but only when I REALLY have nothing better to do.
Hahaha. Find me one thread where I have been more than mildly complimentary about Hatton. Try harder.
As for this weird polarization with Hatton fans hating PBF and vice versa, you're painting it black and white. Try reading some of the smarter posters opinions. You'll see subtleties to the opinions that are presented.
Floyd's a great fighter. Probably better than Hatton. Sadly though he has dissappointed me greatly since his lightweight days. His retirement is a loss to boxing but mainly is the confirmation that he will not equal his lightweight exploits.
People who appreciate his skills are fine. Morons who blindly believe he is the greatest to ever walk the planet need to grow up.
A year ago it was Toney.
Before that it was RJJ.
A decade ago it was Tyson.
These 'greats' often pall in the light of hindsight. But it doesn't stop newbies getting excited and crying that the greatest ever walks amongst us.
Great post
I wonder if more people just dislike Ricky's or any fighters nuthugging fans more than they actually dislike the fighter himself, after all, Ricky is a pro fighter risking his health while lots of others that talk smack are just doing it for kicks or just delusional.
I'm on the train of hating his fans. I've on issues with Hatton. I don't find his style appealing and I believe him to be an overrated fighter.... but that's not to suggest that I'm insulting his skill. He is a very good fighter. But not as good as many people would lead you to believe. Then of coures, after a "big win" these boards are flooded w/ people who love the taste of any winning fighter's nuts... so things are blown out of proportion even moreso to the point where I almost begin to dislike the fighter if I read the site for too long.
I wonder if more people just dislike Ricky's or any fighters nuthugging fans more than they actually dislike the fighter himself, after all, Ricky is a pro fighter risking his health while lots of others that talk smack are just doing it for kicks or just delusional.
People think I trying to hate on hatton but you have to realize hatton was throwing left hooks to the body all night, It was a good enough shot to put castillo down on one knee but not lying on the floor from pain like alot of the great body shots Ive seen over the years. Do I think castillo could have gotten up yes but I dont blame him if he did he might of gotten seriously hurt.
Thats not close to being the best bodyshot of all time.
Any shot where a fighter can take 2 steps, spin around and take a knee is not the best bodyshot of all time hahahahhaha.
thats exactly what i was thinking.......and common sense should tell everyone else!
bodyshots are more about luck...you hit the guy 10 times in the same spot and nothing happens..........its about the luck, being that the other guy not being ready for it or off guard...the actual punch by the boxer is the same punch ten times over!!...perfect example is Cotto...great body puncher...but how many times did he hit Urkal hard but didn't even buckle him for 10 rounds or so.???????
the best body punches are the ones happen only once and the opponent goes down...they are very very rare...
whereas, when you have a fighter hitting the opponent 20 times or so, and then one getting through, its not like that the one punch is the best ever!
Hes not the greatest ever a hall of famer but not even close to the greatest ever thats why a fight with hatton should bring him out of retirement with hattons fan base it should be big money but I have to disagree about the confirmation of his lightweight exploits that may have been his best weight class ever but at 140 he has more speed and power. If ricky didnt turn down that fight years ago this wouldnt even be an issue but I hope this fight does happen and not at 147 because if floyd beats him there all the hatton fans will make the excuse that its not his best weight class, So if this fight is made I hope Its at 140 so no excuse can be made about who the better fighter is.
Hahaha. Find me one thread where I have been more than mildly complimentary about Hatton. Try harder.
As for this weird polarization with Hatton fans hating PBF and vice versa, you're painting it black and white. Try reading some of the smarter posters opinions. You'll see subtleties to the opinions that are presented.
Floyd's a great fighter. Probably better than Hatton. Sadly though he has dissappointed me greatly since his lightweight days. His retirement is a loss to boxing but mainly is the confirmation that he will not equal his lightweight exploits.
People who appreciate his skills are fine. Morons who blindly believe he is the greatest to ever walk the planet need to grow up.
A year ago it was Toney.
Before that it was RJJ.
A decade ago it was Tyson.
These 'greats' often pall in the light of hindsight. But it doesn't stop newbies getting excited and crying that the greatest ever walks amongst us.
the reason for this thread was because all the hattons fans were acting like he just beat a prime castillo the reason why I brought up floyds name was to vaildate my point yes I am mayweather fan and your obvious a hatton fan you can lie all you want but if you werent you wouldnt be defending him so much I never said he wasnt a great fighter I think he is but hatton fans dont want to give any respect floyd so why should I give there fighter any. I already said I want this fight to be made so it could finally settle who the better fighter is.
Shut up, arm length and height doesnt determine what weight you can win at,
Mayweather is 5'8 and won the WBC Title at 154,`
Hatton weighs at least 168 outside the ring, he is not a 140 pound fighter, he weight drains, everyone knows this.
:ugh:
168 180 outside the ring is not
the same as fighting at a championship level
anyone can drink and lay their ass around
50 60 100 pounds heavier.
pacman is around the same height you think
he should go to 140 and fight? hatton not going
to let pride get to him and have him fight too big.
he is lil and fight140. he is young n can make weight
you dont know wether he feels better at 140 or 147
How is it bull shit people make up more reason to hate on floyd then any another boxer in history hattons fans cry when he lost to collazo saying at 147 it made
hatton to slow and hes better at 140 but at the same time they want him to fight floyd who is considered if not the best at 147 maybe the second best. You sound like your a hatton fan,Hatton
fans never give any respect to floyd mayweather and at the same time,want us to praise everything hatton does,and stop making excuse for hatton for not being able to fight at 147 cotto is only 5'7 and some people think hes the best welter weight in world. Thats why I want this fight to be made more than the floyd cotto fight so it could be finally put to rest who the better fighter is.
Wow, suddenly we see the reason for this thread.
Wah, wah, wah Floyd.....
You have presented what is known as a straw man argument.
If you are upset that Hatton is being praised while Floyd is being dissed then say so. Don't fabricate arguments for people, make your own point. I haven't seen anyone claiming that Hatton's KO bodyshot was the best of all time.
As for Floyd? He's retired. If he wants to fight his own battles he knows what to do. He's done what he's done and you can assume no more unless he returns. Til then, tough luck. He isn't going to change anyone's opinions with words and by throwing money around. Neither are his fans.
Seeing as Floyd's career is over (and I would never call Floyd a liar despite claims of forthcoming knockouts not actually being attempted) then we can only judge him on what he's done. Hatton for his faults (and he has a fair few) is still building his legacy and Castillo was a step in the right direction. In my mind PBF-DLH was comparibly a good step for Floyd. Sadly it was his final one.
Joe Louis broke a vertebrae in Max Schmeling's back.
Whatever punch did it had to of been better then what Hatton did.
I don't think any of us have seen every body punch ko so calling any of them the best is a bit much.
The best i've seen and remember.
The Roy Jones Vs Hill
Tyson has had a lot
Micky Ward vs Gatti
Hopkins vs DLH
Pac man vs can't remember his name but it was a HBO fight from about a year or two ago.
That is beacuse you are not good enough.
Ever hear of Duran?
Ever hear of Sam Langford who fought Heavyweights?
Tyson was 5'11, fighting people much taller.
Many fighters have fought taller fighters
Hell Im sparring a heavyweight tomorrow.:lol1: You have to work on certain attributes alot.
How is it bull shit people make up more reason to hate on floyd then any another boxer in history hattons fans cry when he lost to collazo saying at 147 it made
hatton to slow and hes better at 140 but at the same time they want him to fight floyd who is considered if not the best at 147 maybe the second best. You sound like your a hatton fan,Hatton
fans never give any respect to floyd mayweather and at the same time,want us to praise everything hatton does,and stop making excuse for hatton for not being able to fight at 147 cotto is only 5'7 and some people think hes the best welter weight in world. Thats why I want this fight to be made more than the floyd cotto fight so it could be finally put to rest who the better fighter is.
Hatton never lost to Collazo.
How is it bull shit people make up more reason to hate on floyd then any another boxer in history hattons fans cry when he lost to collazo saying at 147 it made
hatton to slow and hes better at 140 but at the same time they want him to fight floyd who is considered if not the best at 147 maybe the second best. You sound like your a hatton fan,Hatton
fans never give any respect to floyd mayweather and at the same time,want us to praise everything hatton does,and stop making excuse for hatton for not being able to fight at 147 cotto is only 5'7 and some people think hes the best welter weight in world. Thats why I want this fight to be made more than the floyd cotto fight so it could be finally put to rest who the better fighter is.