Why Does Hatton Hold?

Tying your Opponent UP is as OLD as BOXING itself... If you think it's cheating.. Then I would speculate you are Not very Old.. and not very familliar with the SPORT or it's history..And dont really Understand what the concept is.. And to compare Hatton to Ruiz.. is an Injustice to Each Fighter.. Ruiz Will throw a few punches and THEN grab on .. Hatton Holds and then throws Punches on the break... It is these subtle differences and Knowing them THAT seperate the Fan Boys and The Fans of Boxing

This is not a hater thread but real talk. Even the most die hard Hatton fans have to admit that he does it way too much. In his last 3 fights he has done it more then alot of these elite guys have done in there whole career. The bad thing about it is that he doesnt need to do it. He's a very good fighter. Ruiz needs to do it because he pretty much sucks and has no skill. Hatton may be the one of the most exciting fighters of our era if he didnt hold. He has some skills to box and he has great inside skills. He should be just like a Chico or Castillo. He can fight that same exact way without holding. It almost seems like kind of a punk move because he just jumps in with the first 2 or 3 punches and then grabs you before you can respond. Then he still punches you in the clinch and spins you off. Then it starts again. You have to give him credit for manhandling big strong guys like Tszyu & Castillo but still. Its ugly to watch. It makes you mad because in between the holding he is a exciting fighter but now its almost like non stop holding. Why does he do that? His corner never says anything to him so I think Grahm must be teaching him that. The only time you should hold like that is when your in trouble. I dont remember him always being like that. I thought it was great the way he fought. Does he do this in sparring? Its strange. Its almost like UFC stuff. He'll also try to say its not true if you ask him about it. I just dont get it. The guy has skills and is a good figher. He doesnt need to do that. What do the Hatton fans think about it? I also think its pretty dangerous if you run up on the right guy because he jumps in alot. At 147 against the stronger guys and bigger punchers, it could make him walk right into trouble First off, that style of fighting is extremely classic. From the inside perspective; having a fighter who clinches beat the shit out of you the way Hatton does - is about as humiliating and debilitating as "taking a beating" can get. I see nothing wrong with the way he does it. In fact, I'd say it's highly respect worthy. Ricky Hatton is not Ray Robinson, he works with what he's got. The guy is economic, calculating, and cunning. On paper you can critize it. My eyes interpret Ricky Hatton's fighting style much more liberally because of everything else he's doing. He opens guys up, lands clean, sharp punches that break down his opponents - strategically out of the clinch. People don't see it.. Ricky Hatton fucking feins clinches.. :lol1: It's gorgeous. If I was his trainer I'd keep telling him to do it indefinately.

so you admit he is horrible to watch and a cheater yet he's still your favorite. SUSPECT! I would pick all out action over a chess match fight any day of the week. Especially if the fight ends with a perfect one punch KO like it did last night! Fuck me, Hopkins - Taylor 1&2, Taylor - Wright and PBF - DLH etc were technical fights but boring as hell.

he neutralizes every style possible in the most annoying fashion ever basically, it works though and its why hes undefeated, crack you in the face a few times then get so close you cant hit him back, shoulder roll? fuck off, hell give you a hug then bash you about till you cry, keep him on the end of the jab? fuck off, hell give you a fucking hug so you cant jab atall. its so wrong, but it works, hes a hard little cunt and hes smart doing what he does, but castillo did it just as bad this time. he hugs cause it makes you fight, you HAVE to fight him, you cant back off, you have to fight and if you dont your fucked, plus it helps him plant those body shots Exactly, he makes his opponent fight his fight. Many may not like his style but to be honest who gives a fuck, he wins and he wont lose sleep over it. He is small fighter with short arms who has a history of appalling cut damage, therefore he stays inside his opponents range and neutralises their effectiveness. 43-0 says it all! Also I would say Castillo held more than Hatton last night so.....

he neutralizes every style possible in the most annoying fashion ever basically, it works though and its why hes undefeated, crack you in the face a few times then get so close you cant hit him back, shoulder roll? fuck off, hell give you a hug then bash you about till you cry, keep him on the end of the jab? fuck off, hell give you a fucking hug so you cant jab atall. its so wrong, but it works, hes a hard little cunt and hes smart doing what he does, but castillo did it just as bad this time. he hugs cause it makes you fight, you HAVE to fight him, you cant back off, you have to fight and if you dont your fucked, plus it helps him plant those body shots

Rickys holding isnt really Hugging. He huggs some as do most fighters, but most of Hattons holding is part of his defense, he immobilizes his opponents arms, but still leaves himself open to throw punches. true...its just part of his inside work in most cases. there is the odd hug though, but i guess he's just an affectionate guy. hatton's style won't ever be considered entertaining to a lot of people, but i personally enjoy watching his rugged semi-dirty aggressive style

I thought he worked well inside, a little holding from both fighters but not even enough for the ref to step in more the a few times. That got close threw punches, held, threw punches, stepped away. he was fine tonight or at least I thought.

Yeah but that doesnt really make it right or anything. What kind of fighter has a style where holding is part of it? Even if you are short. You and alot of others say he clinches to neturalize there Offense but what kind of an excuse is that? Anyone can do that. Every fighter can hold to netuarlize the opponents Offense but they dont do it. Thats not a good reason. Infact, in boxing the trainers only tell you to hold when your in trouble and are badly hurt. Hatton does it as part of his boxing. anyone can do that, yes. but like i said, ricky doesnt really have a choice. he has to get close, and he has to brawl. its not an excuses, its a legitimate reason. like i said before: HE DOESNT REALLY HAVE A CHOICE. besides, its not like he dived in and clinched for no reason like john the bum ruiz, like he did against urango.

Floyd kind of uses his elbow but its really more of a chicken arm. Its not like he's cocking it back and hitting you full force like he's in the UFC. He definatly does that but its still only a couple of times during a fight and its nothing like holding. It doesnt ever stop the action or even really bother the other fighter. Alot of fighters do dirty things but I and pretty much everyone else can take that. The #1 thing people dont want to see is holding and espically if you can tell that its part of your game plan

he has short arms. boxing on the outside for some1 with arms that short is a nightmare. he has to get close to pound the body and do his damage. ricky hatton is 5'6" with a 65" reach. he cant do shit with that reach and that stature. he has to get close, and when he does, he clinches to neutralize their offense and so he can do his damage. he really has no choice. Yeah but that doesnt really make it right or anything. What kind of fighter has a style where holding is part of it? Even if you are short. You and alot of others say he clinches to neturalize there Offense but what kind of an excuse is that? Anyone can do that. Every fighter can hold to netuarlize the opponents Offense but they dont do it. Thats not a good reason. Infact, in boxing the trainers only tell you to hold when your in trouble and are badly hurt. Hatton does it as part of his boxing.

I dont get it either. He doesnt have to hold. read my post.

I dont get it either. He doesnt have to hold.

he has short arms. boxing on the outside for some1 with arms that short is a nightmare. he has to get close to pound the body and do his damage. ricky hatton is 5'6" with a 65" reach. he cant do shit with that reach and that stature. he has to get close, and when he does, he clinches to neutralize their offense and so he can do his damage. he really has no choice.

Were in any part of that question do you see Floyd's name? DLT is German for PBF.

Were in any part of that question do you see Floyd's name?

He imposes his strenth on his opponents. He has the advantage against pretty much anybody if he keeps it in the trenches, it's just his style, it nullifies alot of disadvantages he might have. I dont think there's anything wrong about it.

Ricky's hit and hold is just as bad as when Floyd used to punch and push or fend off with his elbow.

Why did Floyd use to elbow so much?