I have realized that Floyd Mayweather and many black American fighters in his vane

But its only in North America that people classify themselves as white. Thats the issue. I would argue that in North America people are less inclined to describe themselves as white, and would much rather resort to tenuous ancestral links. I never met quite so many Irish people who had never actually set foot on Irish soil as I did when I moved to Canada.

Technical Skill i consider a good poster, even when i dont agree with what he says, i like him. but hes right, Italians are not Latins, because that would mean they come from latin america. Paulie is white, italians consider themselves white, and when he puts down "race" on his paperwork, he puts down white. To classify Italians as latins in a modern sense wouldnt be correct by any stretch. Lol, no need to defend me, i explained it earlier in thread, to me personally. To me, there is a difference between Latin and LATINO Latins are Italian and Spanish perhaps others, so no i dont think you have to come from latin america to be a latin. LATINO'S are people of adopted spanish speaking countries, mexico, Argentina, Cuba (where i have tiny roots) etc. That was my own personal view of the two groupings. Im not interested in further participation on this, but i thought i should explain what i meant.

floyd has skillz, but is no warrior.. he picks his fights. Im not a fan, he is a bitch.

Technical Skill i consider a good poster, even when i dont agree with what he says, i like him. but hes right, Italians are not Latins, because that would mean they come from latin america. Paulie is white, italians consider themselves white, and when he puts down "race" on his paperwork, he puts down white. To classify Italians as latins in a modern sense wouldnt be correct by any stretch. But its only in North America that people classify themselves as white. Thats the issue. I have white skin, I dont go around screaming Im of the "white race"...No Im ethnicaly ukrainian, or slavic in the broader sense. If me and italian are white, people start to believe that its all the same, culturaly etc....Well it cant be farther from the truth.

Technical Skill i consider a good poster, even when i dont agree with what he says, i like him. but hes right, Italians are not Latins, because that would mean they come from latin america. Paulie is white, italians consider themselves white, and when he puts down "race" on his paperwork, he puts down white. To classify Italians as latins in a modern sense wouldnt be correct by any stretch. This is actually a big debate.. Italians and Greeks are Mediterranean. At least, that's what I consider myself.. This "White" classification is a USA thing.. Racial consolidation.

You know that doesn't make sense, right? Technical Skill i consider a good poster, even when i dont agree with what he says, i like him. but hes right, Italians are not Latins, because that would mean they come from latin america. Paulie is white, italians consider themselves white, and when he puts down "race" on his paperwork, he puts down white. To classify Italians as latins in a modern sense wouldnt be correct by any stretch.

The reason black fighters love to stick and move is due to their training...they wait for old women in the park and stick their purses to their hands and move....they are real good at it.... :haha: :afro: :D

what you guys don't see is this has much less to do with race than it does class. boxing is a poor man's sport, simple as that. back in the day when the american ghettos where dominated by the jewish, irish, italians, so was boxing. the blacks have always been poor in this country, so they have always been on the top of boxing. the hispanic americans coming to this country that are for the most part doing so to escape third world conditions, have zero opportunities. mckay you are a joke please leave

To say anyone who has an undefeated record against some of the best competition in his weight classes has no fighting instinct has to be the most ignorant statement I've ever heard(& until the next retarded thread on here comes along), just cause no one has the skill to force Mayweather out of his comfort zone as a boxer doesn't mean he couldn't if he needed to. What I find most hilarious about you're post about American Fighters(which is obviously just about Floyd, since you mention no other fighter by name) is that you could exchange Mayweather for Hatton & American for European, & it would make a lot more sense to me, but I'm not the type to spend my time hating fighters who have made something great of themselves, no matter how much I dislike they're style. he's athletically gifted, well conditioned, naturally savy, cunning, but I maintain he lacks an instinct purely for combat. Just a locked in state of mind where there is nothing in the world but you and your opponent, every move comes natural, not cerebral, fighinting on your wits, you can be shot 7 times and not notice until your a few mineutes after your physically incapacitated to move.

Black American fighters in the ilk of Mayweather which have come to be known as the only 'American' fighters have no idea what the fuck they're doing. I dont care what speed and theatrical movies they have to offer they have no instinct for combat. Their minds are swimming with techincal nonsense and other things because they have no natural fighting instinct to fall back on. Any real fighter that has true boxer/fighters instincts will beat them and their managements knows it which is why their careers are so well shielded. To say anyone who has an undefeated record against some of the best competition in his weight classes has no fighting instinct has to be the most ignorant statement I've ever heard(& until the next retarded thread on here comes along), just cause no one has the skill to force Mayweather out of his comfort zone as a boxer doesn't mean he couldn't if he needed to. What I find most hilarious about you're post about American Fighters(which is obviously just about Floyd, since you mention no other fighter by name) is that you could exchange Mayweather for Hatton & American for European, & it would make a lot more sense to me, but I'm not the type to spend my time hating fighters who have made something great of themselves, no matter how much I dislike they're style.

You know that doesn't make sense, right? What are you retarted?

Just for the record, Paulie M is Latin, he is italian. You know that doesn't make sense, right?

Did you just debunk the whole black race by saying that they do not possess any fighting instincts, as well as they are naturally poor fighters? Really?

................. Yes Hatton went back to his natrual weight to fight castillo.... but he tried going up because he knew the biggest fights were at that weight...at his natrual weight there is nobody....but he had to go back down because he was unimpressive moving up against a nobody... i mean at least when floyd fought gatti who is a nobody as well he shell shocked him.... Hatton almost lost his fight... In the end its going to be constant back and forth... but no british fighter has ever dominated the sport like mayweather has dominated his reign.... and Hatton will be exposed as soon as the contract is signed and the bell for the first round sounds off.... and than the brits can pick a new guy to hype....after one loss in america in an embarrassing way noone will talk about hatton again........ill even give you that he beat tzou....we know the truth but ill say tzou was at his best....ill say he beat castillo at his best....he beat a world class fighter like collazho at his best...... but the guy has how many fights...who else has he beaten......Hatton is just now entering the big stage..... Floyds on another level... its not even comparable... not against hatton anyways...i think a fight with paul williams would be dangerous for floyd,, but Hatton is a bum...waiting to be exposed...and make no mistake that floyd is better than tzou , castillo and collazho even if u combined the best attributes of the 3 ................I would never tell u what to do but i suggest u start looking for the next guy to hype out of britan............

You are a FOOL and really don't deserve a response. Mosley is hardly a dancer and only a bonafide fool like yourself would think otherwise. Saying the truth is never a bad comeback idiot. I'm talking about nowadays with guys like mosley and mayweather. They're not warriors they're dancers.

Black American fighters in the ilk of Mayweather which have come to be known as the only 'American' fighters have no idea what the fuck they're doing. I dont care what speed and theatrical movies they have to offer they have no instinct for combat. Their minds are swimming with techincal nonsense and other things because they have no natural fighting instinct to fall back on. Any real fighter that has true boxer/fighters instincts will beat them and their managements knows it which is why their careers are so well shielded. Ahhh another idiot?! Name whites boxers who are dominating?! Kelly Pavlik is ya next white hope! Everyone else suxs sorry to say. I am not a racists but u sure do sound like one urself.

Black American fighters in the ilk of Mayweather which have come to be known as the only 'American' fighters have no idea what the fuck they're doing. I dont care what speed and theatrical movies they have to offer they have no instinct for combat. Their minds are swimming with techincal nonsense and other things because they have no natural fighting instinct to fall back on. Any real fighter that has true boxer/fighters instincts will beat them and their managements knows it which is why their careers are so well shielded. HAHAHA second funnier post ever! :haha: :thumbsdow *points to ottke, hatton, cotto (he's almost white)*

and again the press puts it best british fighters are Horozontal ...meaning their always on their backs Thanks for the clarification, only I'm not a moron, I know the meaning of the word "horizontal". All this "Cotto beats Hatton, Mosley beats Hatton, Margarito beats Hatton" is pure conjecture. I can say "Witter beats Mayweather, Margarito beats Mayweather, Cotto beats Mayweather" if I like, it doesn't necessarily make it so, and does nothing to back up any point I might have. It's an opinion of yours that Hatton would be beaten by the fighters you name, let's not pretend it's anything more. think about this hatton beat a no punchin callazho and he struggled Think about this, Hatton beat Castillo easily and Mayweather struggled twice with Castillo. Does it make a difference? Nope. he says i had to show what i had and give a great performance...but he dropped in weight to do it... he cant beat any top fighter if he moves back up Hatton didn't drop in weight to fight Castillo. He went up in weight to fight Collazo.

.................. Squeaky....... most great fighters are black and spanish.... but if u say jack dempsey was a great fighter im not gonna argue with you... but when u brought up those bum fighters from England... and than said that volume punchers beat boxers i knew u were hangin out with the hbo crew to much... boxers beat any style most of the time ...has a volume puncher beat a boxer of course...but a boxer wins out most of the time against any style .... and for the record its not white bums...but specifically bums from britan who are overrated i already told u who they were...but no worries there is more to come... After one Hatton loss and lets throw mayweather out of the picture lets make it that floyd dosent exist... cotto would beat hatton... margarito ...williams...even washed up de la hoya...or even mosely...think about this hatton beat a no punchin callazho and he struggled so when he beat castillo..he says i had to show what i had and give a great performance...but he dropped in weight to do it... he cant beat any top fighter if he moves back up.....once Hatton loses to any fighter ull never hear from him again....and again the press puts it best british fighters are Horozontal ...meaning their always on their backs...and never has a british fighter dominated on a world stage just in their own backyards..... they win 1 or 2 fights than get exposed and go home......Even a guy like lewis who i personally think should be ranked higher as a heavyweight ....ull see most experts dont even rank him in their top 20 of alltime heavyweights now if lewis is the best thing britan ever had and he dosent even crack the top 20 of heavyweights on most experts list what does that say about the rest of the british boxers.....

That's all you can come back with? I guess it hurts to be wrong and the only way you can respond is with immaturity. It doesn't matter if some of the fighters are retired if the conversation is about fighting styles. Most of those guys are retired you dumb shit.