ODLH: "Freddie Roach is a great trainer let me tell you. The reason I didn't listen to what he was telling me in my corner was because I couldn't do what he was telling me to do. I think I have a few too many miles on this motor and injuries kept me from doing what I really wanted to do and therefore, that's why I stopped using my jab. But that's a whole different story, but Freddie Roach is a great, great trainer."
WTF? I remember ODLH saying that this was his first training camp that went injury free and where he was 100% and now he says this?
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I just lost respect for DLH.
Floyd was never hurt by Oscar. U trippin. Oscar says he was injured a month later bullshit. And then he says it was the best training camp he's ever had. Deal with it Oscar you lost.
look.
oscar stopped jabbing because he got tired and floyd's counter-right was waaay too spot-on.
floyd didn't fight toe-to-toe because he felt oscar's power.
floyd won by scoring defensive points and landing counter-rights.
its that simple.
rematch = same shet over again.
99% of fighters come into fight with some injury, that's the fact.
Off-course 100% of those fighters will tell you they are completely healed, they are not stupid to give away there weak spots.
You can't tell right after the fight that you were injured because it will make you look like asshole and excuse maker.
Normally, guys tell everything surrounding the fight 2-3 weeks later.
I don't know where is the problem with Oscar giving some facts..
I've addressed your concerns in earlier posts and given my reasons. You should have a read of them.
All I've seen is interviews of him giving props to Mosley after the 1st fight. The only excuse I saw him give for his shitty Sturm performance was that he'd underestimated him. That's a little different to flat-out lying about a torn rotator cuff like Floyd did after Castillo 1.
Everyone knows that Oscar's been carrying injuries for years but as usual the rabid, hysterical Floyd fans can't handle the fact that there may be an element of truth to it.
I've always been indifferent to Oscar as a fighter so you're clinging to the bias thing a bit too tightly, and you're not really fooling anyone with your mock-impartiality. TBH, I couldn't really give a fuck if he's telling the truth or not. It's all subjective mate, so I'll leave you to your opinion.
What more do you want me to say, im a oscar fan, a huge one, I order all his fights without question, i have been loyal to him as a fan since i could remember. But hes a crybaby definately. He has bitched after EVERY loss with the exception of the hopkins one. To say he isnt a "crybaby like floyd" is not only bias against him, but holds very little water if you know Oscar's career which im not sure if you do, because if you did, youd know after the tito fight he cried, (even though he deserved to) after the first shane fight he had a ton of excuses, after the 2nd shane fight he whined (even though i felt he won the fight) but yes, HE DOES WHINE, absolutely. Your argument holds no weight and doesnt even provide the logic to stand on its own other than your own bias against mayweather.
Come on BJ, I know you're capable of better than that.
What more do you want me to say, im a oscar fan, a huge one, I order all his fights without question, i have been loyal to him as a fan since i could remember. But hes a crybaby definately. He has bitched after EVERY loss with the exception of the hopkins one. To say he isnt a "crybaby like floyd" is not only bias against him, but holds very little water if you know Oscar's career which im not sure if you do, because if you did, youd know after the tito fight he cried, (even though he deserved to) after the first shane fight he had a ton of excuses, after the 2nd shane fight he whined (even though i felt he won the fight) but yes, HE DOES WHINE, absolutely. Your argument holds no weight and doesnt even provide the logic to stand on its own other than your own bias against mayweather.
If Oscar didn't stop jabbing for whatever reason, he would have won the fight hands down.
He stopped jabbing because he was eating over hand counters from them, dont be rediculous, why would he willingly stop doing what he was doing that could have won him the fight? Because by doing it he would eat up more and more punches. He was hitting him with it, yes, he stopped because the more he used it, the more the counters came. he didint wanna get hit.
dela hoya was with out question trying to say that "i didn't lose cause hes better than me" and "it's not Freddie Roach fault either" so it must be something else to keep his mind comforted duh
I didn't pay him. I'm not stupid like you. That was not his A game. If he wanted to show his A game he would have thrown more punches.
IF YOU THOUGHT THE FIGHT WAS GONNA BE GATTI-WARD THEN YOU GOT PLAYED. FLOYD AND OSCAR PIMPED YOU. IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE BUT ITS THE TRUTH. Floyd's riding off into the sunset with over $10 million in his pocket. He's smart.
Hardly the act of the "Greatest Fighter of all Time".
So you have to wait a month and a half after the fact to reveal an injury?
This just in, Tyson claims he was injured against Buster Douglas...
That would be a different argument, sweetheart.
Damn Floyd has the be the baddest "whining" ( that's how you spell it) b*tch I have ever seen... Get the Phuck out of here with that bullsh*t... Oscar is an even bigger whiner that floyd is... Oscar has had excuses for everyone of his losses... While floyd hasn't ( oh that's right the "whiney bitch" is undefeated)...
You know what's funny to me... Floyd talks big sh*t about his opponents before the fight... Why is it that he seems to gain his opponents respect after the fights and not the fans... Why is that, because all you are is an opinionated fan... So your opinion is worth as much as a pimple on floyds ass, oh my fault your opinion isn't even worth that... Get off floyds nuts this thread was about De La Hoya...
What are you getting so whiney for? He's not even your real daddy.
The fact is Floyd whines about fucking everything - his opponents, the fans, lack of respect, the media, money. He's one whiney little bitch.
Oh, and there are a couple af ways that "bad" and Floyd can be used in the same sentence but that's not one of them.
PS, your grammar sucks. Don't embarass yourself by trying to correct me again.
The only one of these fights that is even in the same league of domination was Lacy-Calzaghe. And I was damned impressed with HOW Calzaghe dominated him. On the other hand Calzaghe never stopped Lacy and Lacy did actually land a couple of good punches they just didn't faze Joe C. When McGirt stopped the fight there was no protest from Gatti because he wanted the fight to be stopped. Margarito v. Cintron...trading punches and having one guy get the better of the other is NOT brutal domination... it is just brutal. Same thing with Mitchell v. Tszyu.
Mitchell was NEVER EVEN IN the fight with tszyu. I don't think that cintron was either (Although I haven't seen that one in a bit, so I'll check it again if you insist).
In much the same fashion, Lacy was never in the fight with joe, and gatti was never in the fight with PBF. The only difference here (KOs aside) is that unlike Lacy/calzaghe, which was an upset, everyone saw (or should've been able to see) a PBF win via KO coming. PBF did little other than what was expected of him.
Well, if you actually watched Lacy vs calzaghe or Cintron vs Margarito, or mitchel vs tszyu, then yes. You'd have seen champs get dismantled in BRUTAL fashions. It happens ALL THE TIME.
The only one of these fights that is even in the same league of domination was Lacy-Calzaghe. And I was damned impressed with HOW Calzaghe dominated him. On the other hand Calzaghe never stopped Lacy and Lacy did actually land a couple of good punches they just didn't faze Joe C. When McGirt stopped the fight there was no protest from Gatti because he wanted the fight to be stopped. Margarito v. Cintron...trading punches and having one guy get the better of the other is NOT brutal domination... it is just brutal. Same thing with Mitchell v. Tszyu.
Yes it is not a big deal at all that the MW champion also became the LHW champion. Even though Sugar Ray Robinson couldn't do it and he is widely regarded as one of the greatest fighters in history...good point. And if you read anything I said it wasn't who Mayweather beat (in terms of Gatti) it was how he beat him. Which was mercilessly in fact I have never seen a champion get dismantled that badly (and Gatti was the champ that night). And I agree with you Gatti is washed up and will struggle mightily with Gomez.
Well, if you actually watched Lacy vs calzaghe or Cintron vs Margarito, or mitchel vs tszyu, then yes. You'd have seen champs get dismantled in BRUTAL fashions. It happens ALL THE TIME.
That was to get fools like u to buy the fight. Floyd didn't beat Oscar with his A game. Throwing 1 or 2 punches at a time. Floyd came out the victor, and that's all that matters.
Congrats sir, you are the cancer of boxing. You are the reason why so many casual fans have moved on to UFC. Bravo!
He did not pimp me bitch.
I got the fight from sopcast and then download it from U-Torrent.
I am not going to let that little monkey rip me off.
When he faught Baldomir people who paid top dollars left the fight early.
They were cheated and robbed.
So, now you are saying that Floyd is a pimp and a scam artist?
He just hustles people out of their hard earned cash?
Thank you for exposing that little mother fucker for everyone here today.
Wait I already knew this but I think you yourself are starting to see it too.
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Floyd pick pocketed your ass!
Well good for you. Its putting more green into his pocket. Lol yeah Floyd pick pocketed me. I've never payed for a fight. If you look at it that way many fighters have pimped the fans. Hopkins-Taylor was a chess match which many who bought that thought it was boring. All fighters fight for money and to feed their family. BUT YOUR CRAZY IF U THOUGHT MYWEATHER-DLH WAS GONNA BE A BRAWL. Floyd's style is to box and move. Not running. Running is what they do at track meets. There is a difference, and your retarded ass knows it.
Make all the excuses about Corrales you want but as far as I know he took the fight and was undefeated when he took it. Plenty of people favored him going into that fight go back and look. Then look at the way he was completely dismantled and it is impressive. The Gatti fight was impressive in the WAY he blew him out. Of course I thought Mayweather would win but not that easily and getting hit that little. And simply dismissing the fact that Mayweather won a title 4 weight classes above where he started is foolish. That would be like dismissing Hopkins' win over Tarver as not great. They both were great because of the circumstances even if the performance wasn't memorable for you.
If you really expected gatti to do any better vs PBF, then you were foolish. Gatti's MO against faster fighters is getting punched in the face. A LOT. That's just what tends to happen. To expect anything less when he fights THE FASTEST GUY HE'S EVER FOUGHT is insane. That's all I have to say about that.
I can't say I heard any of the hype when PBF fought Corrales, but I'll take you at face value. I still really wish (for PBFs sake) that the looming prison time wasn't there tainting his victory. Still, impressive, and probably the fight that PBF fans point to to say "SEE! Not a bum/coward/whatever else PBF haters say". It's great, but due to hindsight being 20/20, it doesn't have that same long lasting greatness that other hall of famer's careers have.
Once again, Fighters get championchips at multiple wieghts all the time. And the 'how' matters. Hopkins Jumped up 2 weight divisions out of nowhere, and beat the best at that weight. That is what it was and how it will be remembered.
PBF didn't fight the best in any weight after 135. He only fought Gatti at 140, judah and baldy at 147, and DLH at 154. While DLH is the king of 154, it's a generally accepted opinion that he doesn't have the stamina he used to. Gatti sure as hell isn't the king of 140, and neither judah or baldy are (or were) the undisputed kings of 147 at the time of their fights with PBF. This considerably hampers the 'greatness' of him having all those belts. Not to mention, the only belt obtained in a memorable fashion is vs gatti, a man who had no business ever fighting PBF.
Because he's not a whiney bitch like Floyd.
Damn Floyd has the be the baddest "whining" ( that's how you spell it) b*tch I have ever seen... Get the Phuck out of here with that bullsh*t... Oscar is an even bigger whiner that floyd is... Oscar has had excuses for everyone of his losses... While floyd hasn't ( oh that's right the "whiney bitch" is undefeated)...
You know what's funny to me... Floyd talks big sh*t about his opponents before the fight... Why is it that he seems to gain his opponents respect after the fights and not the fans... Why is that, because all you are is an opinionated fan... So your opinion is worth as much as a pimple on floyds ass, oh my fault your opinion isn't even worth that... Get off floyds nuts this thread was about De La Hoya...
I didn't pay him. I'm not stupid like you. That was not his A game. If he wanted to show his A game he would have thrown more punches.
IF YOU THOUGHT THE FIGHT WAS GONNA BE GATTI-WARD THEN YOU GOT PLAYED. FLOYD AND OSCAR PIMPED YOU. IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE BUT ITS THE TRUTH. Floyd's riding off into the sunset with over $10 million in his pocket. He's smart.
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