My Friend Zab Judah Won

:crying: The record will not reflect a "win" for last nights bout with Miguel Cotto. History will not reflect in "punch stats" or the "judges scorecards" that Zab Judah came out on top. Instead of the cheers from adoring fans, he will be left with a silent walk back to the dressing room, everyone will be too afraid to say the wrong thing to him, he will quietly get dressed and someone will take him to the hospital to get his eye stitched up, as will his opponant. Perhaps the two warriors will be in the same emergency room getting sewn up, and both will carry the battle scars from the fight for the rest of their lives. They are forever joined together - blood brothers now, one, gets the adoration, one, gets the jeers, but now and forever both men will look back and remember the other with a mutual respect that only true warriors know. On this night my friend Zab Judah won, oh, he lost the fight - true enough, but he won the "big" one. He won the respect of the naysayers, the people who said he wouldn't last 3 rounds with the Champion. Those who said he has never had the heart of a Champion. (even though he has been the Undisputed Champion already, and a 2 Time Champion at that) The critics who said he could never keep his head together. Those armchair boxing know-it-alls who have never put on the gloves, never even been to a boxing gym, some of them have never even been to a fight or in a fight for that matter - Zab beat them too. You see, my friend Zab Judah showed the entire world that he is a fighter, not just a flashy boxer, not just a speed demon, he showed the world that he is a proud modern day gladiator - the kind that goes out on his shield - the kind of fighter that can be away from the arena for an entire year and still be able to step into the ring with the Champion and not only hold his own, he could still buckle the knees of the Champion with a single shot. Put my friend Zabs' performance into perspective - could a track star take a year off and then go straight into the the Olympics and be able to hold his or her own? How about a pro football team, could they take the entire year off and then hold their own against the defending Superbowl Champions - in the Superbowl at that!? Zab Judah won the respect of the people that matter most - his fellow warriors, and more than that - he proved to himself that he is now the fighter he always wanted to be in his own heart... I am VERY PROUD of you Zab. Your Friend, JD Lyons :crying: he can be my friend too:puppy_dog

The record will not reflect a "win" for last nights bout with Miguel Cotto. History will not reflect in "punch stats" or the "judges scorecards" that Zab Judah came out on top. Instead of the cheers from adoring fans, he will be left with a silent walk back to the dressing room, everyone will be too afraid to say the wrong thing to him, he will quietly get dressed and someone will take him to the hospital to get his eye stitched up, as will his opponant. Perhaps the two warriors will be in the same emergency room getting sewn up, and both will carry the battle scars from the fight for the rest of their lives. They are forever joined together - blood brothers now, one, gets the adoration, one, gets the jeers, but now and forever both men will look back and remember the other with a mutual respect that only true warriors know. On this night my friend Zab Judah won, oh, he lost the fight - true enough, but he won the "big" one. He won the respect of the naysayers, the people who said he wouldn't last 3 rounds with the Champion. Those who said he has never had the heart of a Champion. (even though he has been the Undisputed Champion already, and a 2 Time Champion at that) The critics who said he could never keep his head together. Those armchair boxing know-it-alls who have never put on the gloves, never even been to a boxing gym, some of them have never even been to a fight or in a fight for that matter - Zab beat them too. You see, my friend Zab Judah showed the entire world that he is a fighter, not just a flashy boxer, not just a speed demon, he showed the world that he is a proud modern day gladiator - the kind that goes out on his shield - the kind of fighter that can be away from the arena for an entire year and still be able to step into the ring with the Champion and not only hold his own, he could still buckle the knees of the Champion with a single shot. Put my friend Zabs' performance into perspective - could a track star take a year off and then go straight into the the Olympics and be able to hold his or her own? How about a pro football team, could they take the entire year off and then hold their own against the defending Superbowl Champions - in the Superbowl at that!? Zab Judah won the respect of the people that matter most - his fellow warriors, and more than that - he proved to himself that he is now the fighter he always wanted to be in his own heart... I am VERY PROUD of you Zab. Your Friend, JD Lyons Loved this!!

Great Thread, I know Zab has alot to think about now, I honeslty jjust hope his health is alright and he can continue going. He needs a new damn trainer, I said once and I'll say it again...Manny steward Will make the Star of Judah a Legend. He enjoyed the snap in Zabs Jab, his heart, and his combination of speed and power. JUDAH vs Miguel Cotto I think will happen 2 more times because Judah will win a rematch to make it a trilogy.These two are tied now. Miguel Cotto wont beat Mayweather or Mosley, those two are made for each other. He'll have to go at it with Zab again. Zab needs to get the winner of Malignaggi vs. Ndou.

well if boxing doesnt sort itself out, more and more fans will turn to mma like i have, and less than 2yrs ago i hated that sport.

I am proud of Zab too. I was proud of him when he faked the first low blow. He should have went for the kill instead of looking for an academy award. The first shot was not so low that he had to cause that scene. The second low blow was the real one and was for good measure. That is what you get when you fake a low blow. Daddy Cotto gave Judah something real to cry about. lol I was also proud of Judah when he took a knee. Do you know how many fighters take knees against Cotto? Many! I was proud of Judah when he was knocked on his ass. I was proud of Judah when he accepted defeat. I was proud of Judah for making 101 excuses at the post fight presser. He blamed everything and everyone for his loss. I am proud of that looney looser. lol Now, time to put the clown suit away, and don't lose your sponge nose again, or Daddy Cotto will spank your alien ass....

Why certainly, Soldier01 - the devils' advocate is only talking about Zab not losing his cool. He doesn't mention anything about the questions people had about Zab, and how Zab answered those questions. Am I giving credit, where credit is do to Zab? - Yes I am, does it bother some people? Yes it does, he is obviously one of them. Perhaps you are too. Look, some people will focus only on the bad things that happen to or are done by people. By his avatar alone, I see what he is into - and that certainly ain't my thing. I don't knock him for it, but it's not my thing. I respect Zab for his performance, the same goes for Cotto, if it bothers some people that I see a different perspective from their own - well - good, perhaps a little eye opening is good for the soul..... Am I one of them ? Absolutely not. I give credit when credit is due. After seeing Zab's performance on Saturday night I have to give him much respect for the valiant effort he put on. I have to give him props because he survived 2 more rounds than I thought he would...LOL If you talk to Zab give him my warmest regards.

Why certainly, Soldier01 - the devils' advocate is only talking about Zab not losing his cool. He doesn't mention anything about the questions people had about Zab, and how Zab answered those questions. Am I giving credit, where credit is do to Zab? - Yes I am, does it bother some people? Yes it does, he is obviously one of them. Perhaps you are too. Look, some people will focus only on the bad things that happen to or are done by people. By his avatar alone, I see what he is into - and that certainly ain't my thing. I don't knock him for it, but it's not my thing. I respect Zab for his performance, the same goes for Cotto, if it bothers some people that I see a different perspective from their own - well - good, perhaps a little eye opening is good for the soul.....

Nice....but forgive me for playing devils advocate. Could it be that the above article could be said about every fighter who has taken a beating like a fighter should? But in the case of Jab, because of his infamous tantraums and stupid behaviour, he gets a pat on the head for not losing his cool, and getting TKO'd without throwing stolls around. He took a couple of low blows, was cut and took some real punishment, but stopped his 'thug'-self from coming out. Well done Jab. Good post....Great point!!! Sountraveler would you care to elaborate on this ?

JD, Zab indeed got to choose how he wanted this fight to end and as you pointed out he went out on his shield something I was not really expecting him to do so for I give him credit, this does quiet (not put to bed) alot of the bad press that Zab has gotten over the past few years regarding his all give and no take kind of style. Now-he still is a heavy front runner, he looked tough early as always but never won a round past the 7th, this is just plain and simply who he is as a fighter-he is the speed in horse race and unforntunely for Zab the races arent 4 furlongs. If you would like to call Saturday night a victory for Zab then go for it thats wonderful if thats what you believe but make no mistake about it this was Miguel Cotto's victory and his alone.

thats the truth right there, i like the term "arm-chair boxing know it alls" ahah great post man

I am in no way denying that I predicted a Judah win and was way off in the outcome. That is to say, of course that if Zab would have finished Cotto in the 1st or 3rd Rounds when he had him hurt - and YES Cotto was definately hurt, then you would be correct. -- Well sort of -- I would not have written this, because he still would not have shown the kind of heart he has, and would not have answered the questions about his chin, and he would not have had to keep his cool after getting 2 shots two the balls. (the second was on purpose) He would not have had to fight on with what amounts to 1 eye, so much would have been different. And that of course would have included this thread.... i agree with you on most of that. i was thinking about it today and i really think that zab doesnt like getting hit. i know it sounds stupid but he does great till the other guy starts to connect then he just plays it as safe as possible, while trying to remain "macho" it happens in all his big fights, i always thought he just couldnt stick to a gameplan but i fear he genuinely freezes in fear of punches.

i know this is sorta a cu*tish thing to say, but nice job of covering ur wildly inaccurate claims that it was zabs time etc. i like u JD but come on, u wouldnt of made a post like this if hed koed cotto in the 1st rd I am in no way denying that I predicted a Judah win and was way off in the outcome. That is to say, of course that if Zab would have finished Cotto in the 1st or 3rd Rounds when he had him hurt - and YES Cotto was definately hurt, then you would be correct. -- Well sort of -- I would not have written this, because he still would not have shown the kind of heart he has, and would not have answered the questions about his chin, and he would not have had to keep his cool after getting 2 shots two the balls. (the second was on purpose) He would not have had to fight on with what amounts to 1 eye, so much would have been different. And that of course would have included this thread....

Good stuff, ST. :beerchug: Both guys put a major hurting on each other. Both guys gave themselves to the contest.

The record will not reflect a "win" for last nights bout with Miguel Cotto. History will not reflect in "punch stats" or the "judges scorecards" that Zab Judah came out on top. Instead of the cheers from adoring fans, he will be left with a silent walk back to the dressing room, everyone will be too afraid to say the wrong thing to him, he will quietly get dressed and someone will take him to the hospital to get his eye stitched up, as will his opponant. Perhaps the two warriors will be in the same emergency room getting sewn up, and both will carry the battle scars from the fight for the rest of their lives. They are forever joined together - blood brothers now, one, gets the adoration, one, gets the jeers, but now and forever both men will look back and remember the other with a mutual respect that only true warriors know. On this night my friend Zab Judah won, oh, he lost the fight - true enough, but he won the "big" one. He won the respect of the naysayers, the people who said he wouldn't last 3 rounds with the Champion. Those who said he has never had the heart of a Champion. (even though he has been the Undisputed Champion already, and a 2 Time Champion at that) The critics who said he could never keep his head together. Those armchair boxing know-it-alls who have never put on the gloves, never even been to a boxing gym, some of them have never even been to a fight or in a fight for that matter - Zab beat them too. You see, my friend Zab Judah showed the entire world that he is a fighter, not just a flashy boxer, not just a speed demon, he showed the world that he is a proud modern day gladiator - the kind that goes out on his shield - the kind of fighter that can be away from the arena for an entire year and still be able to step into the ring with the Champion and not only hold his own, he could still buckle the knees of the Champion with a single shot. Put my friend Zabs' performance into perspective - could a track star take a year off and then go straight into the the Olympics and be able to hold his or her own? How about a pro football team, could they take the entire year off and then hold their own against the defending Superbowl Champions - in the Superbowl at that!? Zab Judah won the respect of the people that matter most - his fellow warriors, and more than that - he proved to himself that he is now the fighter he always wanted to be in his own heart... I am VERY PROUD of you Zab. Your Friend, JD Lyonsi know this is sorta a cu*tish thing to say, but nice job of covering ur wildly inaccurate claims that it was zabs time etc. i like u JD but come on, u wouldnt of made a post like this if hed koed cotto in the 1st rd

zab showed heart and i am glad he didnt do anything stupid. i am a fan. but for him to win in the ring too he needs to improve his work rate. maybe a change in tariner is in order for him.

I never once talked down about Cotto before the fight, and still I read some posts on some of mine as well as other fight fans' threads and again I wonder if the forum is full of 10 year old punk kids sneaking online via their mommys' computer. I try to show respect to all posters as long as they show me the same when posting something pertaining to me. I don't have to talk shit, I am a man, not a boy, I am who I say I am, and I do exactly what I say I will do. I have hooked people from this website up with tickets to big fights, even personaly gotten credentials for Boxingscene writers and photographers. I have personaly introduced World Champions to fight fans from this forum, but I am letting everyone know right now, if you can't post something towards me and show me the same respect I give to you, then don't post on my threads at all - it's that plain and simple. During the fight I gave Cotto props, after the fight I gave Cotto props, and even after talking to some very "high up people" from the camps of the two warriors involved in last nights' war, and finding out that the second low blow was indeed intentional, regardless of what any of you think, I still give Cotto props for bringing his best to the ring....

Zab showed heart. I knew he had one but he lost :( I think it was the wrong fight for him being one year off. Still he could have won it by TKO early on. But he had too much ring rust and ball-wear to go the 12. He wasnt throwing and see such a talent being destroyed by a fighter he could easly have TKOed had he thrown more is kinda of sad. Worse than that is hearing Judah. He is clearly in denial

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Great Post- your a man of your word.. You gave cotto his dues and now give zab his. The way zab faught he would have beaten alot of the top champs possibly even weather. I'm going as far to say he would have beaten mayweather with last night performance. with that said Cotto would have beaten anyone last night as well. They both came in for a war, a fight and most important they both came in for respect-----They both earned everything they will now get in the future.. Thank you very much, I meant every word I said, not just for Zab on this thread but also the props I gave Cotto on other threads after the fight...

Nice....but forgive me for playing devils advocate. Could it be that the above article could be said about every fighter who has taken a beating like a fighter should? But in the case of Jab, because of his infamous tantraums and stupid behaviour, he gets a pat on the head for not losing his cool, and getting TKO'd without throwing stolls around. He took a couple of low blows, was cut and took some real punishment, but stopped his 'thug'-self from coming out. Well done Jab.