cotto is an upgraded version of chavez, more power and stronger though, although both have poor defense cotto's is better, he dosent take 4 punches to land one like the overrated julio chavez
I can't think of a single aspect of boxing Cotto was better than JCC. maybe better jab and level of competition during their first 30 or so fights? JCC is the best fighter to come out of Mexico IMO.
cotto is an upgraded version of chavez, more power and stronger though, although both have poor defense cotto's is better, he dosent take 4 punches to land one like the overrated julio chavezplease tell me your kidding! :ugh: i am a big fan of cotto, but he is still to young to caompare him to jcc. and to say jcc is a good fighter is a sure sign that u have no idea what your talking about! the man is an atg! gimme a break man! get a clue!
Cotto was running from Mosley it was effective cause he was moving so fast but with his hands down and Mosley only half ass chaseing him, wtf was that. Cotto is a good fight but i just think he doesn't mirror the image of Chavez at one time i belive he was but through out the years i just seen him get sloppier. Don't get me wrong he throws some nice shots, he doesn't wing them like Mayorga but I think he is not practicing on his technique as he once was.
Thing is, Mosley was outdoing him in the inside when he woke up, which would not happen against Chavez I don't believe. Cotto seems to be more well-rounded than ever, but he was the one keeping the fight at a distance against Mosley because he had had enough of the body shots and Mosley's power inside.
As far as more power, yeah at 147 Cotto does, as Chavez was nowhere near his best there. At 140 it was pretty close, Chavez was really at his best at 130-135 though. P4P I'd say the power is pretty close, Chavez edge because he proved it more, while Cotto didn't really even hurt Shane.
granted mosley is no slouch on the inside,i think he thought cotto would focus on the body,and cotto had a hunch that he'd think that as well,he landed some good left hooks upstairs while mosley expect the body onslaught.
yep i agree.i think cotto inside game is about even though,just look at those knockdowns cotto has had with body shots.in my opinion chavez only had a better chin cotto more power.everything else is pretty much a mirror image.
listen to the quintana bodyshot.
Thing is, Mosley was outdoing him in the inside when he woke up, which would not happen against Chavez I don't believe. Cotto seems to be more well-rounded than ever, but he was the one keeping the fight at a distance against Mosley because he had had enough of the body shots and Mosley's power inside.
As far as more power, yeah at 147 Cotto does, as Chavez was nowhere near his best there. At 140 it was pretty close, Chavez was really at his best at 130-135 though. P4P I'd say the power is pretty close, Chavez edge because he proved it more, while Cotto didn't really even hurt Shane.
you always thought chavez was a cab driver? lolz yea i remember when greg haugen said that and then chavez knocked his ass out. when he fought frankie, he had a fucked up shoulder but did'nt back outcause he was a true fighter, and then rematched him and won his title back, then 11 years later fought him a 3rd time.and meldrick taylor had no power, just speed slap slap shit to get points, he was'nt robbed, he was a bloody mess that was pissing blood for a week and had slight swelling on the brain, not to mention he was also knocked on his back by a straight right. get your history straight before you post. you can only get so much info from the internet, the best info is from being there and remembering it when it happened.
Acctually you can get plenty of info from the internet, guys Just an Idiot.
I always felt Chavez was a cab driver in disuise. He was overrated and Frankie Randall proved it as did Meldrick Taylor until he was robbed by the ref in that last 15 sec, of that fight.
you always thought chavez was a cab driver? lolz yea i remember when greg haugen said that and then chavez knocked his ass out. when he fought frankie, he had a fucked up shoulder but did'nt back outcause he was a true fighter, and then rematched him and won his title back, then 11 years later fought him a 3rd time.and meldrick taylor had no power, just speed slap slap shit to get points, he was'nt robbed, he was a bloody mess that was pissing blood for a week and had slight swelling on the brain, not to mention he was also knocked on his back by a straight right. get your history straight before you post. you can only get so much info from the internet, the best info is from being there and remembering it when it happened.
While I'm in favor of Chavez in this debate by a good deal, that was a bit off.
1) Cotto's punches do have very good technique, similar to Chavez, almost mirror in fact, other than the way he holds his hands coming in(more like earmuffs than Chavez).
2) Cotto I believe has faster handspeed, watch the Mosley fight again, while his movement was similar in speed to Chavez, his hands were very fast and connected a good percentage on Mosley due to this fact. Not a big difference here though.
3) Cotto doesn't get hit more at all(probably less in fact), but he definitely gets hurt more.
4) As far as boxing, yeah Chavez could box, but he wouldn't be outboxing Mosley from the outside like Cotto did. He was better on the inside than Cotto is though.
yep i agree.i think cotto inside game is about even though,just look at those knockdowns cotto has had with body shots.in my opinion chavez only had a better chin cotto more power.everything else is pretty much a mirror image.
listen to the quintana bodyshot.
Cotto gets hit more. Hurt more. His punchs don't have the technique that Chavez well schooled punchs had. Chavez could box too. He could slip punchs. Prime Chavez has faster hand speed.
At one time, Cotto use to throw some great technical punchs, now a days his techniquez is not as finesse as it was at one time and he gets hit way too much. He easily could have lost the Mosley fight and Mosley didn't start fighting till the 8th round.
While I'm in favor of Chavez in this debate by a good deal, that was a bit off.
1) Cotto's punches do have very good technique, similar to Chavez, almost mirror in fact, other than the way he holds his hands coming in(more like earmuffs than Chavez).
2) Cotto I believe has faster handspeed, watch the Mosley fight again, while his movement was similar in speed to Chavez, his hands were very fast and connected a good percentage on Mosley due to this fact. Not a big difference here though.
3) Cotto doesn't get hit more at all(probably less in fact), but he definitely gets hurt more.
4) As far as boxing, yeah Chavez could box, but he wouldn't be outboxing Mosley from the outside like Cotto did. He was better on the inside than Cotto is though.
Cotto gets hit more. Hurt more. His punchs don't have the technique that Chavez well schooled punchs had. Chavez could box too. He could slip punchs. Prime Chavez has faster hand speed.
At one time, Cotto use to throw some great technical punchs, now a days his techniquez is not as finesse as it was at one time and he gets hit way too much. He easily could have lost the Mosley fight and Mosley didn't start fighting till the 8th round.
Im not a Cotto hater, he's one of my favorite fighter.
You have to respect a fighter that comes forward, I was dissapointed in the last 2-3 rounds though.
But its really to early in his career to compare him with Chavez.
i understand.
chavez is a legend
Prime Chavez right here.
Chavez did everything Cotto does but a little bit better, Besides the Chin that was in a class by its self.
I will say that Cotto has a better outside game, or pure boxing game. Possibly more well-rounded, but at what they do best, as I said, Chavez has him beat in most categories other than handspeed by a bit. Then comes the titanium chin compared to Cotto's dentable one.
was cotto hurt in the fight?
nah i don't think so.
you have seen him hurt
he comes forward when hurt
i wished he would pressed the action and not gone oscar for the last two rounds
so everyone wouldn't have another thing to complain about him with.
Im not a Cotto hater, he's one of my favorite fighter.
You have to respect a fighter that comes forward, I was dissapointed in the last 2-3 rounds though.
But its really to early in his career to compare him with Chavez.
Randall is Chavez's owner.... Made Chavez look Mexican in all of their fights.
What? Frankie Randall? I didn't even get your post. Chavez was Mexican. And saying Randall was Chavez's owner is kinda like saying Berbick was Ali's owner.
They are all similar but Chavez apponents shit all over Cotto's from your list.
The Closest might be Camacho=Mosley for the fact they were Ex Champs who were not in their prime. You have to agree Chavez did better against Camacho then Cotto did against Mosley.
was cotto hurt in the fight?
nah i don't think so.
you have seen him hurt
he comes forward when hurt
i wished he would pressed the action and not gone oscar for the last two rounds
so everyone wouldn't have another thing to complain about him with.
there is some similarities between there opponents
el chapo=ricardo torres
camacho=malignaggi
judah=taylor
mosley=camacho
whitaker=floyd?:lol1:
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They are all similar but Chavez apponents shit all over Cotto's from your list.
The Closest might be Camacho=Mosley for the fact they were Ex Champs who were not in their prime. You have to agree Chavez did better against Camacho then Cotto did against Mosley.
Randall is Chavez's owner.... Made Chavez look Mexican in all of their fights.
Great to Judge a man by the tail end of his career.
Chavez won his first title in 84, he fought Randall in 94. 45 fights after winning his first title.
Im sure Randall will go down as the better fighter.
there is some similarities between there opponents
el chapo=ricardo torres
camacho=malignaggi
judah=taylor
mosley=camacho
whitaker=floyd?:lol1:
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