Before they fight, They both have to beat there main adversaries. And its not like this is a boxing politics thing, this is what the fans want.
KESSLER and PAVLIK have to have there chances at the title before these guys can be considered greater then they would if they just fought eachother.
As much as i want a TAYLOR-CALZAGHE fight, i want a PAVLIK-TAYLOR and KESSLER-CALZAGHE fights more.
For Fucks Sake. Taylor is way smaller than JC. Whats the point????
Win - Oh you beat another blown up middle
Lose - Ha Ha you lost to a blown up middle you bum.
Yes they do have to somewhat clean out their divisions. I'm not saying anything I'm just seeing who Taylor wants to fight next. A few dumbasses are saying Jermain is scared and he hasn't even talked about who he plans to fight next. Every fighter wants money. He didn't say 'I WILL NOT FIGHT PAVLIK". Everyone just sit back and shit up.
Why dont you just watch him on youtube, there is plenty of him on there, you gotta do it at some stage otherwise its difficult to judge wether Kessler is good or not.
Yep ive seen a minute or so of him before but i dont like youtube because my pc is slow and takes ages. But i dont really know how good his opponents were really, but Kessler didnt look too bad but i cant really judge you see.
But kessler has belts so imo is good and a credible oponent which i wud like to see one day with Joe.
There are one major problem with this post.
It doesn't matter how many titlists you fought, at all. it matters about the quality of opposition. Kessler has good opposition considering the number of fights he has had, but not as good as Calzaghe's, which included beating the 168 wrecking ball superstar in waiting that was Lacy.
But Calzaghe does need to fight Kessler or retire, but it can wait till after Taylor if that fight is made.
I havent seen Kessler box. Ive heard some people say he is great and ive heard some people say he is average. Of course Joe should box him but whether it is his next fight i dont know. If it was his next fight than great, but i hope it is JT. Someone will beat JT and i hope it can be JC. Someone will oneday beat Kessler and i also hope JC can do it.
Why dont you just watch him on youtube, there is plenty of him on there, you gotta do it at some stage otherwise its difficult to judge wether Kessler is good or not.
I havent seen Kessler box. Ive heard some people say he is great and ive heard some people say he is average. Of course Joe should box him but whether it is his next fight i dont know. If it was his next fight than great, but i hope it is JT. Someone will beat JT and i hope it can be JC. Someone will oneday beat Kessler and i also hope JC can do it.
kessler is decent with basic skills and is just ordinary. them belts mean nothin to be honest. calzaghe has fought and beat better fighters than a kessler already. woodhall, eubank, and maybe even reid at the time were all better than kessler.
Eubank was on the downside, and a last minute replacement. Woodhall was aging too and what he did at 168 better than Kessler? Beat an 40 something Mulinga and lost to Beyer (who Kessler wiped the floor with)?
Kessler may not look like anything special but he's more proven than anyone Calzaghe has beaten.
That's why guys fight.
All this "he looks basic or ordinary" is speculation talk. Forrest looked ordinary and he wiped the floor with Mosley in a unification bout. That's why guys fight (and why there's upsets).
No he hasn't.
Kessler is a super middleweight titlist who has won two belts, and beat two guys who were at the time, world title holders at 168. The only title-holder who Calzaghe has beaten is Lacy, who was less proven than Kessler and won his belt because it was vacant, not by dethroning two world titlists like Kessler has.
kessler is decent with basic skills and is just ordinary. them belts mean nothin to be honest. calzaghe has fought and beat better fighters than a kessler already. woodhall, eubank, and maybe even reid at the time were all better than kessler.
calzaghe has cleared the division. all he has been doing all his career is fghting kesslers, i dont want to see any more of them bs matches. he needs big names for big money and then retire.
No he hasn't.
Kessler is a super middleweight titlist who has won two belts, and beat two guys who were at the time, world title holders at 168. The only title-holder who Calzaghe has beaten is Lacy, who was less proven than Kessler and won his belt because it was vacant, not by dethroning two world titlists like Kessler has.
yeah i agree but maybe Joe should box kessler as janjeorg said to shut the kessler fans up and his critics who say he is avoiding Kessler, even though i heard Kessler turned down an offer from Joe, if what i heard is right.
I agree with the thread starter, but with more realistic expectations....as long as Calzaghe fights Taylor or Kessler first and then Kessler or the winner of Taylor/pavlik (basically I don't care which first), then I'll be happy. If Calzaghe doesn't do that, or Taylor doesn't do the reciprocal, then both of them should eb stripped of the ring belt.
Simple as.
calzaghe has cleared the division. all he has been doing all his career is fghting kesslers, i dont want to see any more of them bs matches. he needs big names for big money and then retire.
Your hate for kessler is very satistfying for me because i get a laugh when everytime the great danes name pops up you start frothing at the mouth through jealousy.
If you ask most of Joe Calzaghe`s fans who they want him to fight next you will find most say mikkel kessler because he is the next best in line and it would be good to shut up kesslers fans and the critics who say im avoiding him.
jangeorg, hold your horses. My hate for Kessler? I dont hate Kessler at all, i dont know where you dug that comment from? I want Kessler and Joe to box probably as much as you. But i have also wanted Joe to beat the best boxers out there hiding in America. I want Joe to beat JT if he is able to and then i would want joe to box Kessler. Whether Joes wants to box Kessler is another matter altoghether. But i think he wants to.
corrupt...
Calzaghe should fight kessler
jt should fight pavlik.
The winner of those two fights fight each other.
If this were the NCAA this is how it would be no questions asked.
But PBF is great and he hasnt really cleaned out divisions. He hasnt been in a division long enough. He has just had one off fights and beaten people and dissapeared into the moonlight sky.
He's been the recognized/linear champ in THREE divisions, and his resume is far better than Calzaghe's.
And he's not retiring, I don't believe his crap about that anyway.
Joe has cleaned out his division for years and now Kessler has come along. Someone always comes along if your in the division long enough. Joe should box JT and then he can go back for Kessler. Kessler aint going anywhere soon.
Your hate for kessler is very satistfying for me because i get a laugh when everytime the great danes name pops up you start frothing at the mouth through jealousy.
If you ask most of Joe Calzaghe`s fans who they want him to fight next you will find most say mikkel kessler because he is the next best in line and it would be good to shut up kesslers fans and the critics who say im avoiding him.
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