Bashing Taylor.

In three fights he faced two of the P4P best and won twice and a draw in another. So for him to have two I guess easier fights doesn't really bother me, at least he is fighting fighters that we know, Ouma and Spinks don't suck. I understand though why people get upset, I would rather seem him fight true middleweights or aboove to. I think he gets criticism because he beat B-Hop twice and they were fights that could have gone either way. People like champs who win convincely, but B-Hop is tough not to many even at his age can beat him convinceingly. I think people hate on him as well because HBO hypes him and also after his two wins over Hopkins we thought he would be the biggest thing in boxing and annihilate everybody, but that hasn't happened. He has great pure talent and athleticism, but hasn't seemed to improve, even with Steward as his trainer. So it's kind of frustrating to see that. In the end though he is still undefeated and young and there is still time for him to improve and become a champ that very little people question whether he is top notch or not.

I don't bash Taylor. I am just not convinced by him as of yet. I am also a bit bitter about his "wins" over Hopkins. After he fought Ouma I had an even greater respect for Ouma's willpower than I had before. Ouma's heart was never in question, in my opinion. Just his size and ability in the matchup. As far as Taylor is concerned, he's still a little young and needs more experience, but shows a great deal of promise. If he keeps his head on straight and doesn't develop a lazy streak, he could wind up being a big moneymaking name in the next 5 years or so. And yep, he's been protected somewhat, but what great prospect hasn't been? Every week I see fights between guys with numbers like this: 8(7byKO)-0-0 VS 8(3byKO)-0-4. That's how you get a hot young fighter as many rounds as possible without taking a big chance on adding numbers in the right column or blasting his self confidence by getting him beaten by a far more experienced fighter.

The guy is a champ at his division... this is just a "warm up" fight for him... he's getting ready to face miranda/pavlik or Joe Clazaghe... he will put boxing right back on the map with his future fights:boxing: I hope so bro cause i always liked watching taylor fight!!! but he has to live upto his nick name and ko spinks!!!

My big issue with Taylor is HBO and his handlers are trying to build him up a this awesome undefeated Middleweight champoin. At best he has raw talent but he IS a protected fighter. I understand the thinking about taking all these safe fights for big money and prolong his carreer but don't talk about what a GREAT champion he is. People that casually follow boxing may fall for the hype but fact are he has a long way to go to prove himself. RIght now he's just another fighter with one of the dozens of belts from the alphbit organizations. When he start fighting legitmate fighters in his OWN division who are legimate threats than they can start talking about how great he is. Whether it''s true or not most fight fans I talk to think he's ducking the legimate middleweights , lets see him fight Mirananda, Pavlik or Abraham and other fighters of this caliber if he's so good.

I dont bash Taylor but i think the Geezer is a proper Bounty! He was a proper dickhead the other day at the press conference trying to give it the Thug one cuz he knows his fighting a guy smaller then him.. Saying he beat Hopkins twice yeh right m8 u got ur ass whooped in that first fight..Talking about he broke winky wankys defense!! I dont think so taylor it was draw... He was meant to be a redneck Taylor was A country boy redneck, His one underneath it all lol

I don't bash Taylor. I am just not convinced by him as of yet. I am also a bit bitter about his "wins" over Hopkins. After he fought Ouma I had an even greater respect for Ouma's willpower than I had before.

The guy is a champ at his division... this is just a "warm up" fight for him... he's getting ready to face miranda/pavlik or Joe Clazaghe... he will put boxing right back on the map with his future fights:boxing: How is fighting Spinks and Ouma before him preparing him for Taylor or Pavlik when one is a blown up jr middleweight and the other is a blown up welter and neither can punh? How is that preparing him to fight two big middleweights that have knockout power? It seems that he doesn't want to fight a big middlewight that can punch, and he has not been impressive in any of his fights. he was backed up by Ouma and couldn't even knock him out or knock him down.

I don't see you bitching when Calzaghe fought Bika or Manfredo. :rolleyes: You're a joke! and bika was giving him all he could handle

taylor last five oppents record 206-17-3 b-hop twice how can u like taylor willingness to fight he was calling out tito and b-hop challenged him!!!! he took it and won b-hop cry promise he would do better got a rematch!!! didn't the next best fight in his weight challenges him!!! taylor gets a draw so he offer a rematch and is REFUSED Ouma a boxer in search of a payday... taylor in search of a knockout... ouma gets his payday taylor doesn't get his knockout... some reality tv show winner is known as the "contender" is offered a chance to prove he is a contender but lack the :tapedshut :tapedshut to fight the champ... (while calzaghe fights the LOSER of the contender) spinks in search of payday... taylor in search of an oppent that will fight him... Taylor, margarito, jmm, pac, and vladamir are the only champs that are actively trying to fight the best around there weight class

My problem with Taylor is that he can't win fights convincingly. That is all.

he brought fans to boxing from arkansas and taylor has a good chance against calzaghe a whole lot better than "left hook"... bash calzaghe for try to get a smaller fighter to fight him and move up hippocrite and how is taylor a "cunt" he only will fight whoever want to fight him ur soft

i think people want to see jermain fight a credible opponent with a punch who is his own size. hell, even a smaller opponent who can crack. if spinks could punch his way out of a wet paper bag i don't think anyone would have a problem with the fight.

How about Hopkins wins against Oscar, wasn't Oscar owned already 4 times before Hopkins, did you guys bitch about that fight I guess not. :rolleyes: How about Tito, another little man Hopkins beat. Yeah, but you were the one who brought judging a fighter by his previous loss into the whole discussion. I only mentioned Spinks losing to Zab after you said Mosley loss to Forrest (in your trying to discredit Winky). Generally, I don't judge a fighter from his previous loss. But seeing as you do, I decided to make things much more clear for you in explaining why Spinks is such a shitty opponent.

Spinks and Ouma came up in weight to get a payday. And Taylor wanted the fights for a freebie. I don't remember Hopkins ever doing that. u are wrong taylor want a rematch with winky to prove that he deserves his title but winky turned him down respect is due to taylor good post i was about to make one like this early today !!!!!!!

How about Hopkins wins against Oscar, wasn't Oscar owned already 4 times before Hopkins, did you guys bitch about that fight I guess not. :rolleyes: How about Tito, another little man Hopkins beat.Hopkins only fought little guys his whole career and yet he gets all the respect in the world... taylor fights 2 little guy other than that he fights the best fighters availabe and he gets bashed.....:ugh:

The reason people are bashing Taylor is their all are bitter Bitchnard fans that are still crying just like Bitchkins. :lol1: Taylor has one of the best resumes in boxing in his last five fights and he still gets bashed. Yeas he's fought some 154 pounders like Ouma and Spinks, both are considered to of the best 154 pounders in the game, Spinks is rated #1 by the Ring Magazine. Oh and don't give that shit about Winky being a small man, Winky's always been a big junior middleweight, he's fightimg Hopkins at 170 in July. the guy faces the best competition available and it's still not good enough.... lol the haters will never go away.

Anytime one fighter makes another fighter quit because of the beating he's giving him....that's convincingly. And you talk about how Forrest owned Mosley long before Winky did - um, what about Zab owning Spinks before Taylor will. The stuff you said about Hopkins/Taylor I disagree with completely Taylor won the second Hopkins fight without a doubt and easily beat Ouma but lately his style worries me. If he can use his jab and just listen to Emanuel he will be a great champ, and he will lose if not.

Hatton did not beat Tszyu convincingly, I had Hatton up by a point when Tyszu choosed to quit. Winky's big wins comes from 2 little men that was already beatup goods, Forrest owned Mosley long before Winky did. Taylor did beat Hopkins convincingly both times, the first fight was not even close, the second fight he still won 7 clear rounds. The Wright fight is the only fight that he did not win convincingly, still the draw was a good score, I had it for Taylor but I can also see someone giving that fight Wright. He beat Ouma convincingly! Anytime one fighter makes another fighter quit because of the beating he's giving him....that's convincingly. And you talk about how Forrest owned Mosley long before Winky did - um, what about Zab owning Spinks before Taylor will. The stuff you said about Hopkins/Taylor I disagree with completely

I complain becuase HBO sucks his cock and he doesn't deliver. His last few fights he has not looked well. He did land some shots on Ouma though. But he tired and looked sloppy at the end. He's not great yet in my eyes.

The reason people are bashing Taylor is their all are bitter Bitchnard fans that are still crying just like Bitchkins. :lol1: Taylor has one of the best resumes in boxing in his last five fights and he still gets bashed. Yeas he's fought some 154 pounders like Ouma and Spinks, both are coniderd to of the best 154 pounders in the game, Spinks is rated #1 by the Ring Magazine. Oh and don't give that shit about Winky being a small man, Winky's always been a big junior middleweight, he's fightimg Hopkins at 170 in July. Name one good fighter he's ever beaten convincingly. The other P4P fighters all atleast have one Hatton has Tszyu Pacman has Morales & Barrera Winky has Trinidad and Mosley Calzaghe has Lacy