Oscar was right, if he didn't attack, there wouldn't be a fight

Aggression points? Are you serious? If Oscar would've landed some damn punches he would've won some damn rounds and his cry baby fans wouldn't be doing so much damn crying. Any big guy can walk towards a little guy throwing punches, but does he really win if he doesn't land anything? perfectly put, couldnt have said it better myself

We know that Oscar pressed the fight, but what he did was not effective aggression. When he had his flurries hardly any of those punches landed effectively if he did connect. DLH had his chance he was trying all night long to find Floyd and he couldn't do it. People are saying PBF didn't do enough to win the fight, but to be honest Oscar did even less. So if you yourself say both fighters didnt do enogh and still say one fighter did less, shouldnt it be a draw, another person either than you may say, To be honest to Oscar didnt do enough to win the fight but to be honest Floyd did even less.

We know that Oscar pressed the fight, but what he did was not effective aggression. When he had his flurries hardly any of those punches landed effectively if he did connect. DLH had his chance he was trying all night long to find Floyd and he couldn't do it. People are saying PBF didn't do enough to win the fight, but to be honest Oscar did even less.

I agree, Dlh did well PBF did well Judges should tell the fighters how they judge fights though, on effective aggressiveness or on boxing, that way their is no reason their would be so as much confusion on how fights are scored,

Bullshit.Oscar had his chances. The ref usually broke it up cuz Oscar was holding and hitting. Oscar's body work didn't really have a significant effect. dont get mad and cuss, Floyd got the decision, im just saddenened to see another fight that did not deliver, you still are angry and and youre cussing and youre a floyd fan, what does that say. i like other people, think boxing should change its scoring system, the fights should be based on just one thing boxing or effective aggressiveness, that way their isnt confusion why someone scores a fight one way and that same judge scores another fight the other way

Oscar lost get over it already.

Bullshit.Oscar had his chances. The ref usually broke it up cuz Oscar was holding and hitting. Oscar's body work didn't really have a significant effect.

you know what sucks, when Oscar had Floyd cornered and Oscar was swingin, the ref was getting Oscar off of Floyd in the corner cause Floyd held oscar, Oscar was not fighting dirty as to say oscar should be pulled away from Floyd in the corner, that takes away Oscars strengh advantage, what if another ref says Floyd, get off of the center of the ring and fight in the corner in a rematch with oscar, it would take Floyds boxing advantage away.

How would you know if it wouldn't have been a fight? Can someone here read Floyd's mind? If Oscar didn't attack wildly Floyd would have won even easier.

Oscar pressed the attack and the fight. He made the fight what it was. If he didn't attack, Floyd never would have. I think not enough credit is given to a fighter who is pressing the attack and trying to make it into a fight. Sure Floyd had his openings and spots to land but that's cause Oscar gave him those openings by pressing the attack. If Oscar didn't, Floyd wouldn't and there'd be no fight and shit to score. I think Oscar could have won the fight alone on being the fighter in the ring that wanted to win it more. I hate guys that go backwards and get wins. :nonono: Readjust the point system! :banana: if oscar didnt come at him and stayed back floyd wouldhave pressed the issue and jsut because your following someone around the ring you shouldnt get no points aint no points for following someone n get hit in the face until he gets to the ropes thats not ring generlism you dudes know shit

Oscar pressed the attack and the fight. He made the fight what it was. If he didn't attack, Floyd never would have. I think not enough credit is given to a fighter who is pressing the attack and trying to make it into a fight. Sure Floyd had his openings and spots to land but that's cause Oscar gave him those openings by pressing the attack. If Oscar didn't, Floyd wouldn't and there'd be no fight and shit to score. I think Oscar could have won the fight alone on being the fighter in the ring that wanted to win it more. I hate guys that go backwards and get wins. :nonono: Readjust the point system! :banana: It sucks for Oscar cause he lost cause Mayweather was boxing, when De La Hoya boxed Trinidad he lost, now he pushes forward and was putting pretty effective aggressiveness on mayweather and he loses that way too. What does Oscar have to do to win a fight?

I think It was a draw.... Mayweather should of made it a better fight. I think delahoya came to fight but mayweather came to survive.. either a draw a delahoya win would of being OK.

if de la didn't attack, he just would have gotten his ass beaten more in the middle of the ring. why does everyone nuthig ODLH. close thread

yeah floyd sr just wants his job back...he didn't even take the seat the little floyd left him...he sat in the seat oscar left

Historically speaking, you are right. There used to be a hell of alot of fighters that where African American. Problem is that they only see the defensive genius of Ali who was just imitating Sugar Ray Robinson. They don't use it to get their offense off. Why? Who knows. There are exceptions to the rule like Hollyfield and Macho Camacho.

Historicly speaking, you are right. There used to be a hell of alot of fighters that where african American. Problem is that they only see the defensive genius of Ali who was just imitating Sugar Ray Robinson. They don't use it to get thier offense off. Why? Who knows. There are exeptions to the rule like Hollyfield and Macho Camacho.

sorry, floyd didnt throw combinations, he threw 1-2's at times when Oscar was clearly shot and ready to be soundly beaten. If the guy showed some killer instinct that he should have for a guy who talks big then ppl would respect him more.

Looks to me that he, De la Hoya, lost this fight when he chose Freddie Roach Over FLoyd Sr. When your business partner, Hopkins, has to stand up and yell at you to motivate you then your trainer isn't doing a large part of his job. I still remember how instrumental Teddy Atlas was in the Holyfield/Moore fight. "Your doing just enough to keep him off you, LISTEN you need to throw punches out there,......." This is a big part of a trainers responsibility, motivating your fighter to do what was working in the fight. At no point did Freddie convey the level of urgency needed after the 8th round. When it comes down to it, if De La Hoya had pressed his jab from that round on, he would have easily accumulated the points to win. He may have even caught Floyd with a follow up right/left hook combination. I think it was telling to see Floyd Sr, Oscar, and Oscars brother conversing after the fight and Freddy Roach was no where to be seen. When it comes down to it there is a reason FIGHTERS like Holyfield, De La Hoya, Barrera, and others make the big paydays almost every fight; they fight. "Boxers" like Mayweather exist only to survive a fight and posses such overwhelming speed they win. He should RETIRE because, as a fight fan, I wouldn't pay to see him fight a guy like Coto. I already know he will grab and poke his way to a boring victory like he did last night. We all know that Latin Fighters deliver the goods more often than not and African American Fighters tend to be the lackluster type. Ali IS the greatest, to bad he spawned this legion of puke followers. Often imitated NEVER DUPLICATED. NO fucking way. The work Freddie did was good. Oscar backed Floyd up, Oscar's defence was great, he cut off the right pretty well. He just didn't throw punches. If you think Snr would have help you better change your crack dealer. Don't knock Freddie, he wasn't the one fighting.

great post, weak generalization at the end. It only holds true for floyd and a slight majority in this day and age, but historically is garbage. Freddy Roach IMO is a good thinker but most of his fighters(of course, not pacman) have done poorly as his ability to speak has deteriorated(surprise surprise).

When you promise so much more than the bare minimum to win and dont deliver. Its not like PBF couldnt have taken the fight to Oscar like he said and bitched that he would. If he stands and trades with Oscar he loses. You know it, I know it, Oscar knows it and most importantly, Floyd knows it. He jabbed, threw cominations, threw lead rights and hooks, knocked down punches with his gloves, ducked and dodged punches and fought to WIN. That, my friend, is boxing. Its too bad you don't appreciate it. Could he have dominated like he said? Absolutely. But he would've had to move in and out more (or run, as some people here seem to call it) and then hear everyone bitch about that. He said he'd stand and fight and he did. He said he'd win and he did. What is the problem again?