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How did you score the last round?
I had DLH winning the last round. I mean Mayweather of course deserved the win, I had it 115-113 Maywather.. but I wouldn't be surprised if the decision was a majority draw.
What do you think we can get to see, shall there ever be a rematch?
- A more convincing victory for Mayweather
- De La Hoya making adjustments, applies more pressure and stands a chance
??
Well Oscar has a bit of history of doing better in a second fight - I for one say he beat Mosley in the second fight. But, that said - I personaly don't think Oscar wants it anymore. Oscar should have won this fight, he got everything he wanted - ring size, gloves, weightclass, and the lionshare of the money! Floyd certainly didn't take the fight to the Champ, as "conventional wisdom" over the years would say you should have to do to get the belt.
I think "The World Gives Us Tons Of Money For Nothing Much" would be a more appropriate title for a fight between these two fighters...
I had Floyd winning 116-112. I gave Floyd the last round. That was a great left hook DLH landed at the end. I was like "OH SHIT"
Floyd might think twice before doing that again.
I was there, and I have to tell you, I am EXTREEMLY disappointed in the performances of BOTH fighters. This fight was built up to be an all time classic fight - and it turned out to be a bout which lacked effort from both Oscar and Floyd. More so on Mayweathers part than DeLaHoya, who did little to show me that he wanted to come in and TAKE the belt from Oscar. The punch stats were a joke - some rounds according to punchstats had Mayweather throwing 60 + punches in a round, which made me wonder if they had been watching the same fight or watching a replay of an old Mayweather fight. At NO TIME did Floyd have a round that he threw or landed 60 punches in the fight, punchstats are garbage. More later, jet lagged now.....
What do you think we can get to see, shall there ever be a rematch?
- A more convincing victory for Mayweather
- De La Hoya making adjustments, applies more pressure and stands a chance
??
I was there, and I have to tell you, I am EXTREEMLY disappointed in the performances of BOTH fighters. This fight was built up to be an all time classic fight - and it turned out to be a bout which lacked effort from both Oscar and Floyd. More so on Mayweathers part than DeLaHoya, who did little to show me that he wanted to come in and TAKE the belt from Oscar. The punch stats were a joke - some rounds according to punchstats had Mayweather throwing 60 + punches in a round, which made me wonder if they had been watching the same fight or watching a replay of an old Mayweather fight. At NO TIME did Floyd have a round that he threw or landed 60 punches in the fight, punchstats are garbage. More later, jet lagged now.....
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How did you score the last round?
I had DLH winning the last round. I mean Mayweather of course deserved the win, I had it 115-113 Maywather.. but I wouldn't be surprised if the decision was a majority draw.
No,because the other judge shouldent have scored it for Oscar in the first place,the only arguement is why was it a split decision,not if DLH won the 12th round or not
who gives a shit what the average scores are...
my point is...
Looking at the judges score cards 2 of 3 judges had de la hoya winning the last round...
Why did Jerry Roth give the 12th to mayweather when de la hoya clearly won that round. was he trying to avoid a draw?
the judges are supposed to score each round individually not give the last round to the other guy to avoid looking bad by scoring a draw
The only reason I like to look at the way each round is scored by each judge is because if all 3 judges had the same score for that round, you can be pretty damn sure that it's right. I think Oscar should have been given round 12 by Roth, but question Roth giving him round 9. If you want to nitpick one round, you have to nitpick them all. I mean, Tom gave Oscar round 10, which seems ludicrous, and questionably gave him round 8.
who gives a shit what the average scores are...
my point is...
Looking at the judges score cards 2 of 3 judges had de la hoya winning the last round...
Why did Jerry Roth give the 12th to mayweather when de la hoya clearly won that round. was he trying to avoid a draw?
the judges are supposed to score each round individually not give the last round to the other guy to avoid looking bad by scoring a draw
Correct,
Look I won't complain about the decision.. I don't think DLH deserved the 115-113 from Kaczmarek..
I was expecting to hear the following scoring
115-113 Mayweather
114-114
114-114
making it a majority draw.
DLH f'ed himself over in rounds 9-11.. He totally abandoned his jab, which cost him the fight... but I guess his tank was on low and he did the best he could.
My disappointment is that I expected a lot more aggression from DLH... PBF is not a hard puncher, and I wanted to see Oscar take some shots to get close and land his own. But DLH was waiting and picking his shots and missed most of them, where he should have fought "Rough and Tough" and bully PBF, throwing him all over the ring..
But hey, easier said than done.
who gives a shit what the average scores are...
my point is...
Looking at the judges score cards 2 of 3 judges had de la hoya winning the last round...
Why did Jerry Roth give the 12th to mayweather when de la hoya clearly won that round. was he trying to avoid a draw?
the judges are supposed to score each round individually not give the last round to the other guy to avoid looking bad by scoring a draw
Just looking at the scorecard and looking atb the fact that oscar was winning there needs to be a rematch immediately tell larry merchant to look at the scorecard there has to be a rematch or even a 3-match if oscar wins
If you average the scoring, rd by rd, Floyd wins 115-113
Rd 1 Floyd (3 judges)
Rd 2 Oscar (3 judges)
Rd 3 Oscar (2 judges) *
Rd 4 Oscar (3 judges)
Rd 5 Floyd (3 judges)
Rd 6 Floyd (3 judges)
Rd 7 Oscar (3 judges)
Rd 8 Floyd (2 judges) *
Rd 9 Floyd (2 judges) *
Rd 10 Floyd (2 judges) *
Rd 11 Floyd (3 judges)
Rd 12 Oscar (2 judges) *
I think Oscar deserved Rd 12, but I'm really surprised that at least one judge gave Oscar rds 9 - 10 (edit: I gave Floyd rd 8, but it was closer than 9 - 11). I thought those were clearly Floyd rds. I gave Oscar Rd 6, but not round 3. Guess I can watch it a second time. I'm pretty hard pressed to argue against the judges when all 3 have the same score for a round.
why did jerry roth not score the last round for de la hoya?
it's clear he won that round, there needs to be a rematch!!!! b/c this fight should have been a draw.
I'm sure Mayweather wouldn't mind.
"If it makes dollars it makes sense." - PBF