Bookmakers belives on Kessler

That's the most sensible thing you've said, Schnellberger. So you can see the possibility of Kessler losing on points? Yes,i can see Kessler losing on points,but it vill still be close

Its not really though, is it? Well it depends on the make, some of these black pots begin to rust after a few washes, Talk about value for money.

Its not really though, is it?

Please stop telling people what they can and cant discuss. Pot. Kettle. Black. lol.

Please stop telling people what they can and cant discuss.

Kayjay, your delusional, read my above posts, you dont know about football.... at all. lol. Nothing personal. Thanks for the good karma though.

More goals per game in serie a then in EPL and La Liga, Check it out, I like your stuff But stick to boxing. My opinion has more to do with what i enjoyed watching the most while i was in europe, not really a bottom line opinion, but more my own.

How do you rate La Liga over EPL? At the top of the brackets at least EPL is much stronger right now, and there are more exceptional players in England right now. Half of Spain's own top players are in England. Rubbish, name names please. Joaquin, Vincente, raul, Torres, Pujol, Villa, Canziares, Sergio Ramos, Cassillas, Pernia, all play in spain Stick to boxing.

1.Spanish La Liga 2.English Premier League 3.Serie A Maybe the italian league excels defensively, but who the fuck wants to watch 10 CB's and 1 striker duke it out for a 90 minute 0-0 draw? I sure as hell dont. Not to mention its corrupt as all hell. How do you rate La Liga over EPL? At the top of the brackets at least EPL is much stronger right now, and there are more exceptional players in England right now. Half of Spain's own top players are in England.

1.Spanish La Liga 2.English Premier League 3.Serie A Maybe the italian league excels defensively, but who the fuck wants to watch 10 CB's and 1 striker duke it out for a 90 minute 0-0 draw? I sure as hell dont. Not to mention its corrupt as all hell. More goals per game in serie a then in EPL and La Liga, Check it out, I like your stuff But stick to boxing.

1.Spanish La Liga 2.English Premier League 3.Serie A Maybe the italian league excels defensively, but who the fuck wants to watch 10 CB's and 1 striker duke it out for a 90 minute 0-0 draw? I sure as hell dont. Not to mention its corrupt as all hell.

You just seem to back him up a lot. Frank Warren and Mogens Palle will be equally responsible if the fight between Claslappy and Metal Mikkel never happens.

I don't understand why jangeorg is backing Palle like he is. Not one of Calzaghe's fans are backing Joe's slimeball promoter. I am not backing Palle,i will just see the fight happen and i am only deliver some news from danish media

He may beat Kessler, but he's no bum. He's a unbeaten fighter, younger and hungry. Maybe this will be the fight we see how great Kessler is?

oh and just for the record, English teams have only made it to the final 4 times since the inception of the champions league. Italy been there 9 times i belive, no its not just Milan, Juventus got to three finals in a row, and sampdoria got to the final in 1992 i believe. Italy was the first nation to have 3 semi finalists out of 4 in 2003, and unlike england this week, we went on to have an all italian final, in england funnily enough. lol. Right save this for laters, Time to talk May 5th. Laters.

Hang about, Calslappy has had more fights but you say those don't count... The premiership is much faster and more physical than the Italian and Spanish leagues. That's what it's known for. Serie A is more technical with more emphasis on stringing passes together. Some players excel at the fast physical game and are less effective at the finesse game (like Henry), some players are good at the tricky skill game but can't handle the fast pace and physicality (such as Diego Forlan). There is merit to both leagues and the big decider for which you prefer is what you were raised with. I prefer the English game, you prefer the Italian game, and that's fine. But you couldn't effectively argue which version of the game is intrinsically better than the other. I mean your listing of statistics for Champs League winners doesn't hold up to much. Yes Italy has had a couple more runners up than anyone, but when you look at it by club, most of the time it has been AC Milan. So it isn't really reflective of the league, it's more reflective of the club. Of course when you look at finalists and runners up by nation you'll see that five Italian clubs have taken part in the Champion's League final, six English clubs have had a similar honour, so you could argue that the depth of the league is not quite as good in Italy, you have one or two dominant teams. You're also not accounting for the Uefa cup which is also an indicator of quality for teams that do not qualify for the Champions League. In the Uefa Cup England and Italy are tied in terms of success (in the modern format). Furthermore bringing Italy's world cup wins into the equation is similarly no indicator of the efficacy of the Italian game. Sure there were four wins, but two of them were in the 1930s while the nature of the game was still being refined. In any case the Germans have won it 3 times after 1950 which makes recent (modern) performance better than that of Italy. So, in short, each to their own. I am quite happy with the directness, pace and physicality of the English game, thankyou very much! ok, I have acknowledged this post, hopefully will read it properly later, and reply, dont want you to tihnk im dodging this, Gotta talk May 5th issues at the moment though cool.

One thing about Serie A is that it is very boring, much like the Spanish league. Goals aren't the result of dominance and attacking play in those leagues, they just come out of nowhere after a long time of boring passing play. Italian (league) football is nowadays known more for its corruption and violence than footballing brilliance.

um, where the hell were you betting. Every bookie and sports betting site i went to had Calzaghe a slight favorite over Lacy ... and if you're going to say crazy stuff, keep it reasonable .. 7-1? That's Taylor over Spinks level .. there's no way a bookie would give u those odds Most bookies, even in the UK, had Lacy favourite over Calzaghe. Kessler has never been tested :pat: 39 fight and never tested:dunno: are you on drugs So considering Calzaghe has had more fights, many of which being title defences. Presumably you'll agree that he's an incredibly well tested fighter then?

Kessler has never been tested 39 fight and never tested are you on drugs Hang about, Calslappy has had more fights but you say those don't count... In England the technique is shocking, most teams can barley string together a 5 pass sequences, most goals are the result of poor defending, players doing poor man marking, scrappy set plays, but more importantly, because of these errors they are more clear cut chances per game in the EPL, The premiership is much faster and more physical than the Italian and Spanish leagues. That's what it's known for. Serie A is more technical with more emphasis on stringing passes together. Some players excel at the fast physical game and are less effective at the finesse game (like Henry), some players are good at the tricky skill game but can't handle the fast pace and physicality (such as Diego Forlan). There is merit to both leagues and the big decider for which you prefer is what you were raised with. I prefer the English game, you prefer the Italian game, and that's fine. But you couldn't effectively argue which version of the game is intrinsically better than the other. I mean your listing of statistics for Champs League winners doesn't hold up to much. Yes Italy has had a couple more runners up than anyone, but when you look at it by club, most of the time it has been AC Milan. So it isn't really reflective of the league, it's more reflective of the club. Of course when you look at finalists and runners up by nation you'll see that five Italian clubs have taken part in the Champion's League final, six English clubs have had a similar honour, so you could argue that the depth of the league is not quite as good in Italy, you have one or two dominant teams. You're also not accounting for the Uefa cup which is also an indicator of quality for teams that do not qualify for the Champions League. In the Uefa Cup England and Italy are tied in terms of success (in the modern format). Furthermore bringing Italy's world cup wins into the equation is similarly no indicator of the efficacy of the Italian game. Sure there were four wins, but two of them were in the 1930s while the nature of the game was still being refined. In any case the Germans have won it 3 times after 1950 which makes recent (modern) performance better than that of Italy. So, in short, each to their own. I am quite happy with the directness, pace and physicality of the English game, thankyou very much!

Right I had to do this on MS word cos of the length and so I could try and spell check it, cos you know my spelling is terrible. Ill also miss out things through lapse of memory, ill try and get to them later. Ill have to do this one post at time or ill be here all night. Today. I’ll start with History. Serie a has always had the best players in the world, this is nothing new, it is the only league where at some stage the majority of the worlds best have played there at some stage, from Maradonna, to platini, to Zidane, Mattheus, Klinsmann, Cafu, go and check, most of the greatest play in italy at some stage. this is because Calcio has a reputation especially amongst Latin and European countries which attracts these players. It is known as the hardest league in the world for a reason, its reliance on technique. In England the technique is shocking, most teams can barley string together a 5 pass sequences, most goals are the result of poor defending, players doing poor man marking, scrappy set plays, but more importantly, because of these errors they are more clear cut chances per game in the EPL, Its not because the prem is so exciting, but because the defending is so bad it doesn’t take much to score in that league. Look at the players that have got 20 goals a season in this league Marcus Stewart Kevin Phillips Les Ferdinand Infact just look at the list of all time Premiership scorers, and then compare it to Serie A, its embarrassing, honestly lol. And the list goes on, not one of these players would get a game in serie a, EVER. Lol. Premiership made its name on Serie a rejects, players that couldn’t hack it, Henry scored 3 goals at juve, so what they played him wide left, he drifts out wide for arsenal anyways. Bergkamp was rubbish in serie a, and then became one of the best players ever in the English game. Zola, a legend in the English game, his last few seasons in serie a were dismal, thus why he had to go. The list goes on and on, players who cant cut it in serie a, or old stars who go to England to collect their last big pay check, like Ravenelli, Vialli, guillit, etc. Then you go to English players in Serie a, they can’t hack it, ever see Gazza in Italy? He was shocking, lasted 2 seasons Paul ince, 2 seasons I think, was cack, David Platt, cack Etc etc, these days English players avoid serie a like the plague, they know they cant get away with all that hack and slash bullshit that goes on in England. Every single one of them that has come over has failed. Which is why they moan about our league being sooo defensive, its just an excuse to mask the fact their best players couldn’t hack it over here, and our serie a players became Legends in the prem. See what u think about that 1st, then ill go on another time. Oh and just for the record, from 1992-2007, italian team been in the following champions league finals 1992 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 2003 2005 2007 lol, thats incredible, yes we are the most dominant and succesful nation in the Champions league. No, spain are.