in the danish newspaper, berlingske tidende,by the way a very well respected news paper, it states that the unfinished business between joe and kessler has once again been brought a live..
palle states, that he does not want to hear people say, that kessler is ducking joe, and therefor has made this giant offer..
the fight is in september, and the date is not yet set, and palle aslo stated, this offer is twice as big,compared to what kessler was offered..
this ís certainly heating up at the moment, and if joe is going after big money fights, this is probably the best offer out there..
5 million? Is it pounds? Is it dollars? Is it Euros? Where is the proof the offer was actually made? Nobody knows, but everybody has an opinion.
Please read the headline off the thread. And the proof, read the comments and the link above. Did you just have a nap?:boxing:
$5 million thats only £2.5m sterlin...If there doors open and Kessler is willing to work at a deal then lets hope they do as I would like to se Joe get this fight out of the way....But Joe is just starting to enjoy his fan base now so I would have thought he would won't to fight at home..
$3m to Kessler was a joke? Wow.
ASSHOLE,it was a offer to $1,75m not $3,0m
Take a look here,stupid CALNUGGERS
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B437AB355E4FD4FB
Put it this way:
Calzaghe gets the hometown.
Kessler gets the money he deserves (around $5m).
Kessler get the one fight he wants more than other (Calzaghe doesnt, Calzaghe would rank Hopkins, Wright and Taylor all ahead of Kessler).
If it happens in July, then Calzaghe gets the date he wants. If it happens in September, then Kessler gets the date he wants.
The largest offer for Calzaghe isn't coming from Denmark. Kessler shouldn't get paid as much as he is essentially the challenger and the less proven fighter by quite a way. A 60/40 split is very fair, and as the champ Joe should be allowed to fight at home.
which offer is larger and which fighter does this involve?
I would agree with a 60/40 split in favor of Joe. As far as where the fight will take place they should have it at a nuetral site. I know both guys sell huge in their home countries, but we also know that both do good in front of their home crowds. I would like to see them fight in nuetral grounds where no man would have the advantage. In the end though i really don't care where this fight takes place as long as it happens.
The problem with a neutral venue is that the is massive money to be made staging this fight in the UK and denmark and a neutral venue doesn't make economic sense. PLus Joe has fought and won in germany its not like he has only ever fought in the UK.
The largest offer for Calzaghe isn't coming from Denmark. Kessler shouldn't get paid as much as he is essentially the challenger and the less proven fighter by quite a way. A 60/40 split is very fair, and as the champ Joe should be allowed to fight at home.
I would agree with a 60/40 split in favor of Joe. As far as where the fight will take place they should have it at a nuetral site. I know both guys sell huge in their home countries, but we also know that both do good in front of their home crowds. I would like to see them fight in nuetral grounds where no man would have the advantage. In the end though i really don't care where this fight takes place as long as it happens.
your on a mission impossible, it seems as if calzaghe is god, and those who want to fight him, better be prepared to fight in his living room, and only get paid from left overs, from their microvawe dinner..
the fact that kesslers 3 last opponents is ranked in the top 5 or 6 doesnt matter, the fact he holds 2 of the major belts, doesnt matter. the fact he has signed for hbo and was invited to espn, doesnt matter..
its excatly the case of making it worthwhile ofr fighters to come to britain, funny how its being portrayad, as if the fight woluf generate the most munoey in britain, but the largest offer is coming from denmark..
The largest offer for Calzaghe isn't coming from Denmark. Kessler shouldn't get paid as much as he is essentially the challenger and the less proven fighter by quite a way. A 60/40 split is very fair, and as the champ Joe should be allowed to fight at home.
$4 million net would be reasonable. Warren is a cheap bastard. Warren is a crook, so is Palle.
Palle asked for German TV rights, as you'd know if you'd been paying attention to these negotiations. So don't try and act clever.
palle wanted the german rights is news to me..!! the only one i have heard claiming this is warren, this to me is far from enough proof..
So basically what's holding up the fight is the fact that Calzaghe is afraid to leave his country even for the biggest payday of his career? What's the most he's made so far? Thought it was like $3 million for the Lacy fight.
And Calzaghe needs to forget about Taylor and Hopkins. Those fights have no chance of happening until the end of the year or early 2008. Kessler is the only marquee opponent which he can fight before winter...
your on a mission impossible, it seems as if calzaghe is god, and those who want to fight him, better be prepared to fight in his living room, and only get paid from left overs, from their microvawe dinner..
the fact that kesslers 3 last opponents is ranked in the top 5 or 6 doesnt matter, the fact he holds 2 of the major belts, doesnt matter. the fact he has signed for hbo and was invited to espn, doesnt matter..
its excatly the case of making it worthwhile ofr fighters to come to britain, funny how its being portrayad, as if the fight woluf generate the most munoey in britain, but the largest offer is coming from denmark..
Oh come on? I don't know that anybody has said it'll make the most money in the UK but it'll make more in the UK or Denmark than it will in the US and everybody knows its very very unlikely warren will take the fight in Denmark leaving the UK as the only real option if the fights ever going to happen.
If Kessler is the one that has to travel, he should get 50/50. You don't seriously think Joke should get the most money and the homefield advantage too? If Calzaghe won't leave the UK, he has to make it worthwhile for opponents to come...
your on a mission impossible, it seems as if calzaghe is god, and those who want to fight him, better be prepared to fight in his living room, and only get paid from left overs, from their microvawe dinner..
the fact that kesslers 3 last opponents is ranked in the top 5 or 6 doesnt matter, the fact he holds 2 of the major belts, doesnt matter. the fact he has signed for hbo and was invited to espn, doesnt matter..
its excatly the case of making it worthwhile ofr fighters to come to britain, funny how its being portrayad, as if the fight woluf generate the most munoey in britain, but the largest offer is coming from denmark..
You'd have to factor in everything to generate them sorts of purses for the relative camps.
Pool it all, 60/40 down the line, as befitting a Champion/#1 Contender bout that this is. Hold it somewhere big like London. Sorted.
I should be a promotor. I'd write funnier letters than Palle and bluff better than Warren.
That's how I see it. Could even see about staging it at Wembley.
what the fuck would palle want german tv rights, its like sayign that palle offers warren italian tv rights because joe is half italian
warren offer of $3m gross vs $5m net is a huge difference; $5m net, if he indeed means net as I think of it, is probably about $7.5m gross. If it's indeed the case that Warren's second offer included no TV rights, then the $3m offer is really no better than his original $1.75 + TV rights offer.. big difference..
$4 million net would be reasonable. Warren is a cheap bastard. Warren is a crook, so is Palle.
Palle asked for German TV rights, as you'd know if you'd been paying attention to these negotiations. So don't try and act clever.
If Kessler is the one that has to travel, he should get 50/50. You don't seriously think Joke should get the most money and the homefield advantage too? If Calzaghe won't leave the UK, he has to make it worthwhile for opponents to come...
Kessler isn't the big name in this fight, and $4 million represents a huge sum for him.
From the looks of it $4 million will be enough to tempt Kessler over here.
Kessler shouldn't get a 50/50 split. But his team should get Scandinavian and German TV rights.
Up Kessler's purse to $4 million and assuming Joe will be on $5-6 million that should make the fight in the UK.
Maybe a fight like this would give Warren another couple of years with ITV.
what the fuck would palle want german tv rights, its like sayign that palle offers warren italian tv rights because joe is half italian
warren offer of $3m gross vs $5m net is a huge difference; $5m net, if he indeed means net as I think of it, is probably about $7.5m gross. If it's indeed the case that Warren's second offer included no TV rights, then the $3m offer is really no better than his original $1.75 + TV rights offer.. big difference..
Kessler shouldn't get a 50/50 split. But his team should get Scandinavian and German TV rights.
Up Kessler's purse to $4 million and assuming Joe will be on $5-6 million that should make the fight in the UK.
Maybe a fight like this would give Warren another couple of years with ITV.
You'd have to factor in everything to generate them sorts of purses for the relative camps.
Pool it all, 60/40 down the line, as befitting a Champion/#1 Contender bout that this is. Hold it somewhere big like London. Sorted.
I should be a promotor. I'd write funnier letters than Palle and bluff better than Warren.
Then all they need to do is sweeten the offer for Kessler to fight in the UK. Kessler obviously won't settle for $3 million. They want 50/50, so up the offer to $5 million and give Palle some of the TV rights and part of the gate and the fight is done and both promoters will make their money on this for sure...
Kessler shouldn't get a 50/50 split. But his team should get Scandinavian and German TV rights.
Up Kessler's purse to $4 million and assuming Joe will be on $5-6 million that should make the fight in the UK.
Maybe a fight like this would give Warren another couple of years with ITV.
Then all they need to do is sweeten the offer for Kessler to fight in the UK. Kessler obviously won't settle for $3 million. They want 50/50, so up the offer to $5 million and give Palle some of the TV rights and part of the gate and the fight is done and both promoters will make their money on this for sure...
I agree. But I think that the Calzaghe camp want the date to be closer to July than September too.
no its not the typycal corporate suit business talk, but a shout to frank and calling him out, palle is propably getting tired of offers not quite good enough..
well yes im a kessler fan.. well im not sure how this fight is going to go, calzaghe has better speed, but not to the ecstent some are giving him credit for, he WAS very fast, but now the difference in speed between kessler and joe isnt big, and im thinking kessler is more powerfull then any other boxer joe has ever boxed.. some say kessler is the perfect fight for joe, but they are under the assumption that kessler is slow and to one dimensional, i think they are going to be surprised, but in the end, its not going to be a easy fight, the winner is going to dig deep..
Jeff Lacy and Byron Mitchell are probably more powerful than Kessler. Kessler hits reasonably hard but is not a power puncher, his power is about the same as Calzaghe's power was pre-2003. I think Kessler is a good all round fighter and is certainly not one dimensional despite his very rigid style.