Edit: I forgot to mention Fighters Under 30 in the thread title :(
I have put together a list of best the undefeated fighters today. (below)
Something we can keep an eye on as fights are made...
What are your thoughts as to who will remain undefeated the longest?
Who are next in line to lose?
Who are, or will be the real elite fighters?1 - Juan Diaz - Lightweight - age 23 - 31(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/28 Freitas
2 - Kelly Pavlik - Middleweight - age 24 - 30(27)-0-0 - Next fight 5/19 Miranda (?)
3 - Chad Dawson - Light Heavyweight - age 24 - 23(15)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
4 - Edwin Valero - Super Featherweight - age 25 - 21(21)-0-0 - Next fight 5/03 Honto
5 - Paul Williams - Welterweight - age 25 - 32(25)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
6 - Miguel Angel Cotto - Welterweight - age 26 - 29(24)-0-0 - Next fight 6/9 Judah
7 - Chris John - Featherweight - age 27 - 39(20)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
8 - Jermain Taylor - Middleweight - age 28 - 26(17)-0-1 - Next fight 8/19 Spinks
9 - Arthur Abraham - Middleweight - age 27 - 22(17)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
10 - Ricky Hatton - Light Welterweight - age 28 - 42(30)-0-0 - Next fight 6/23 Castillo
11 - Mikkel Kessler - Super Middleweight - age 28 - 38(29)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Andrade
12 - Ruslan Chagaev - Heavyweight - age 28 - 22(17)-0-1 - Next fight 4/14 Valuev
Honorable Mentions To:
Rey Bautista - Super Bantamweight - age 20 - 22(17)-0-0 - Next fight 5/5 Medina
Marco Huck - Cruiserweight - age 22 - 18(14)-0-0 - Next fight 5/5 Tokarev
Dmitriy Salita - Featherweight - age 24 - 27(15)-0-1 - Next fight unscheduled
Johnathon Banks - Cruiserweight - age 24 - 15(11)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Alexander Dimitrenko - Heavyweight - age 24 - 25(15)-0-0 Next fight unscheduled
Sergio Manuel Medina - Featherweight - age 25 - 28(16)-0-0 Next fight 5/5 Bautista
Demetrius Hopkins - Light Welterweight - age 26 - 26(10)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
Michael Katsidis - Lightweight - age 26 - 22(20)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Nicky Cook - Featherweight - age 27 - 27(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/7 un-announced
Librado Andrade - Supper Middleweight - age 28 - 24(18)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Kessler (good bye undefeated record)
Carl Froch - Supper Middleweight - age 29 - 20(16)-0-0 - Next fight 3/23 Tatevosyan
Undefeated Fighters over 30:
Floyd Mayweather 37(24)-0-0
Joe Calzaghe - 42(31)-0-0
Nikolay Valuev - 46(34)-0-0
Vic Darchinyan - 28(22)-0-0
Joan Guzman - 27(17)-0-0
Sultan Ibragimov - 20(17)-0-1
Vadim Tokarev - 23(16)-0-1
Juan Diaz-Tough fight against Freitas coming up...I see Juan taking a UD in this one.He'll remain undefeated...May be an elite someday..Im not sure...
Kelly Pavlik-I could see him getting past Miranda.But I really don't picture him as an elite fighter someday.Just an exciting one...
Chad Dawson-He'll remain undefeated for a while.I don't think there's any other light heavyweight around today who can touch him.
Paul Williams-I don't know about him.Needs to get busy,and "for the love of god" step it up already.
Miguel Cotto-Im pretty sold of this guy.I think he's the next puerto rican great.I don't think he'll have many problems with Zab.
Jermain Taylor-I think he'll have more problems with Spinks than some people think.But he'll still win...Im not sure about Taylor..He's still very raw,but doesn't seem to be improving much.
Ricky Hatton-I think his undefeated streak will likely end when he meets Castillo.If im wrong,than I'll start giving Ricky more respect.
Demetrius Hopkins-LOL!!He better never leave goldenboy.
Out of the undefeated fighters over thirty list,Mayweather will stay unbeaten the longest IMO.Calzaghe's will hopefully end with Manfredo..I don't have anything against Joe.Im just a bigger Manfredo fan..Sultan just plain old sucks!
Eddie Chambers deserves an honorable mention as well...
True...
Even if he has fought a bunch of bums hes still undefeated. Too bad people underrate him so much... In a couple of years a shit load of people are going to jump onto the Chambers bandwagon.
wow not even a mention of boom boom bautista....
:nonono:
why is my man boom boom bautista not getting any love?
Dear Pinoys...
I simply forgot. And in all of honesty, I don't pay that much close attention to Bantamweight fighters :pat:
For now, I added him to the "Honorable Mention" section. Shell he defeat Medina, being only 20 years young, he should be on the top of the elite list.
Impressive list you have put together, not easy to say who will remains undefeated last of that group. I would say that Pavelik will be the first fighter that will lose his 0 from thet list, based on simply not have seen much of him and if he fight Miranda this summer. However never easy to predict fighters that hasnt fought known opponent. Same with Williams, even if he beat a faded Mitchell, need to see more of him to.
Kessler is in my opinion the figher that will become the best of that group, if he countinues as he has. Has fought some good quality fighters and will countinue to do so.
Hatton, even if he is no favorit of me, but with his stamina and work rate he will be tough to beat for anyone. Even if he doesnt look so good in some fights but he will not be outclassed easy by anyone including Mayweather.
Chris John will probably stay undefeated the longest because he will probably not fight out of Indonesia or Asia for a while and face weak opponents. I think Pavlik will be the next to lose when him and Miranda face off.
Edit: I forgot to mention Fighters Under 30 in the thread title :(
I have put together a list of best the undefeated fighters today. (below)
Something we can keep an eye on as fights are made...
What are your thoughts as to who will remain undefeated the longest?
Who are next in line to lose?
Who are, or will be the real elite fighters?1 - Juan Diaz - Lightweight - age 23 - 31(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/28 Freitas
2 - Kelly Pavlik - Middleweight - age 24 - 30(27)-0-0 - Next fight 5/19 Miranda (?)
3 - Chad Dawson - Light Heavyweight - age 24 - 23(15)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
4 - Edwin Valero - Super Featherweight - age 25 - 21(21)-0-0 - Next fight 5/03 Honto
5 - Paul Williams - Welterweight - age 25 - 32(25)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
6 - Miguel Angel Cotto - Welterweight - age 26 - 29(24)-0-0 - Next fight 6/9 Judah
7 - Chris John - Featherweight - age 27 - 39(20)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
8 - Jermain Taylor - Middleweight - age 28 - 26(17)-0-1 - Next fight 8/19 Spinks
9 - Arthur Abraham - Middleweight - age 27 - 22(17)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
10 - Ricky Hatton - Light Welterweight - age 28 - 42(30)-0-0 - Next fight 6/23 Castillo
11 - Mikkel Kessler - Super Middleweight - age 28 - 38(29)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Andrade
12 - Ruslan Chagaev - Heavyweight - age 28 - 22(17)-0-1 - Next fight 4/14 Valuev
Honorable Mentions To:
Marco Huck - Cruiserweight - age 22 - 18(14)-0-0 - Next fight 5/5 Tokarev
Johnathon Banks - Cruiserweight - age 24 - 15(11)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Alexander Dimitrenko - Heavyweight - age 24 - 25(15)-0-0 Next fight unscheduled
Demetrius Hopkins - Light Welterweight - age 26 - 26(10)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
Michael Katsidis - Lightweight - age 26 - 22(20)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Nicky Cook - Featherweight - age 27 - 27(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/7 un-announced
Librado Andrade - Supper Middleweight - age 28 - 24(18)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Kessler (good bye undefeated record)
Carl Froch - Supper Middleweight - age 29 - 20(16)-0-0 - Next fight 3/23 Tatevosyan
Undefeated Fighters over 30:
Floyd Mayweather 37(24)-0-0
Joe Calzaghe - 42(31)-0-0
Nikolay Valuev - 46(34)-0-0
Vic Darchinyan - 28(22)-0-0
Joan Guzman - 27(17)-0-0
Sultan Ibragimov - 20(17)-0-1
Vadim Tokarev - 23(16)-0-1
I quite like alot of fighters on ur list but see Cotto as the best and possibly Kellser going the longest without defeat! Pavlick who is good could lose 1st but only coz he fighting Pantera! That said i make Miranda only marginal favourite!
Edit: I forgot to mention Fighters Under 30 in the thread title :(
I have put together a list of best the undefeated fighters today. (below)
Something we can keep an eye on as fights are made...
What are your thoughts as to who will remain undefeated the longest?
Who are next in line to lose?
Who are, or will be the real elite fighters?1 - Juan Diaz - Lightweight - age 23 - 31(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/28 Freitas
2 - Kelly Pavlik - Middleweight - age 24 - 30(27)-0-0 - Next fight 5/19 Miranda (?)
3 - Chad Dawson - Light Heavyweight - age 24 - 23(15)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
4 - Edwin Valero - Super Featherweight - age 25 - 21(21)-0-0 - Next fight 5/03 Honto
5 - Paul Williams - Welterweight - age 25 - 32(25)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
6 - Miguel Angel Cotto - Welterweight - age 26 - 29(24)-0-0 - Next fight 6/9 Judah
7 - Chris John - Featherweight - age 27 - 39(20)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
8 - Jermain Taylor - Middleweight - age 28 - 26(17)-0-1 - Next fight 8/19 Spinks
9 - Arthur Abraham - Middleweight - age 27 - 22(17)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
10 - Ricky Hatton - Light Welterweight - age 28 - 42(30)-0-0 - Next fight 6/23 Castillo
11 - Mikkel Kessler - Super Middleweight - age 28 - 38(29)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Andrade
12 - Ruslan Chagaev - Heavyweight - age 28 - 22(17)-0-1 - Next fight 4/14 Valuev
Honorable Mentions To:
Marco Huck - Cruiserweight - age 22 - 18(14)-0-0 - Next fight 5/5 Tokarev
Johnathon Banks - Cruiserweight - age 24 - 15(11)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Alexander Dimitrenko - Heavyweight - age 24 - 25(15)-0-0 Next fight unscheduled
Demetrius Hopkins - Light Welterweight - age 26 - 26(10)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
Michael Katsidis - Lightweight - age 26 - 22(20)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Nicky Cook - Featherweight - age 27 - 27(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/7 un-announced
Librado Andrade - Supper Middleweight - age 28 - 24(18)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Kessler (good bye undefeated record)
Carl Froch - Supper Middleweight - age 29 - 20(16)-0-0 - Next fight 3/23 Tatevosyan
Undefeated Fighters over 30:
Floyd Mayweather 37(24)-0-0
Joe Calzaghe - 42(31)-0-0
Nikolay Valuev - 46(34)-0-0
Vic Darchinyan - 28(22)-0-0
Joan Guzman - 27(17)-0-0
Sultan Ibragimov - 20(17)-0-1
Vadim Tokarev - 23(16)-0-1
Nice, detailed comprehensive thread. :fing02:
I'm liking alot of these guys.
I appreciate Juan Diaz quite a bit.. I just wish he had a little more power.
Dawson is overhyped already somehow..
Cotto will lose his "0" in June.
Taylor is starting to gross me out a bit.. But he should keep his for awhile.
Hatton will beat Castillo.. After that who knows.
I'll add more later..
This is interesting because quite a few of these guys are headed for dangerous fights..
Fair enough.....pm me in the next couple weeks or whenever and we can ste up wagers on those fights......
We could...
But I lost interest in points :dunno:
BPP beat it out of me :sad:
But you're right... lets see how I feel in the next couple of weeks :wave:
Simply put...
GREEN = Agree
RED = Disagree
:boxing:
Fair enough.....pm me in the next couple weeks or whenever and we can ste up wagers on those fights......
Eddie Chambers deserves an honorable mention as well...
I had to draw the line somwhere as I thought I'd never stop. So I'm sure I did not include others.
that is way boxing is going down because there many undeafted fighters who are afraid to loss the O for some reason there is too much pressure for them not to loss it
Good point
that is way boxing is going down because there many undeafted fighters who are afraid to loss the O for some reason there is too much pressure for them not to loss it
I have put together a list of best of the undefeated fighters. (below)
Something we can keep an eye on as fights are made...
What are your thoughts as to who will remain undefeated the longest?
Who are next in line to lose?
Who are, or will be the real elite fighters?1 - Juan Diaz - Lightweight - age 23 - 31(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/28 Freitas
2 - Kelly Pavlik - Middleweight - age 24 - 30(27)-0-0 - Next fight 5/19 Miranda (?)
3 - Chad Dawson - Light Heavyweight - age 24 - 23(15)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
4 - Edwin Valero - Super Featherweight - age 25 - 21(21)-0-0 - Next fight 5/03 Honto
5 - Paul Williams - Welterweight - age 25 - 32(25)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
6 - Miguel Angel Cotto - Welterweight - age 26 - 29(24)-0-0 - Next fight 6/9 Judah
7 - Chris John - Featherweight - age 27 - 39(20)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
8 - Jermain Taylor - Middleweight - age 28 - 26(17)-0-1 - Next fight 8/19 Spinks
9 - Arthur Abraham - Middleweight - age 27 - 22(17)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
10 - Ricky Hatton - Light Welterweight - age 28 - 42(30)-0-0 - Next fight 6/23 Castillo
11 - Mikkel Kessler - Super Middleweight - age 28 - 38(29)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Andrade
12 - Ruslan Chagaev - Heavyweight - age 28 - 22(17)-0-1 - Next fight 4/14 Valuev
Honorable Mentions To:
Marco Huck - Cruiserweight - age 22 - 18(14)-0-0 - Next fight 5/5 Tokarev
Johnathon Banks - Cruiserweight - age 24 - 15(11)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Alexander Dimitrenko - Heavyweight - age 24 - 25(15)-0-0 Next fight unscheduled
Demetrius Hopkins - Light Welterweight - age 26 - 26(10)-0-1 Next fight unscheduled
Michael Katsidis - Lightweight - age 26 - 22(20)-0-0 - Next fight unscheduled
Nicky Cook - Featherweight - age 27 - 27(15)-0-0 - Next fight 4/7 un-announced
Librado Andrade - Supper Middleweight - age 28 - 24(18)-0-0 - Next fight 3/24 Kessler (good bye undefeated record)
Carl Froch - Supper Middleweight - age 29 - 20(16)-0-0 - Next fight 3/23 Tatevosyan
Undefeated Fighters over 30:
Floyd Mayweather 37(24)-0-0
Joe Calzaghe - 42(31)-0-0
Nikolay Valuev - 46(34)-0-0
Vic Darchinyan - 28(22)-0-0
Joan Guzman - 27(17)-0-0
Sultan Ibragimov - 20(17)-0-1
Vadim Tokarev - 23(16)-0-1
wow great post i think 4 of those undefeated fighters will have a loss on their record that is,
p. williams against a.margarito;
r.hatton against J.castillo;
m.cotto against z.judah;
f.mayweather against o.de la hoya;
Wow thats too much work.....what I will say is Abraham should have a loss as should taylor and Miranda should be on that list if he were not fucked in Germany.......I also see Cotto losing to Judah so I will say he is next in line to lose although Diaz will have his hands full with Freitas too......D-Hop lost over the weekend IMO to Forbes but most of what I said is neither here nor there since it is what it is like it or not.
Oh and Hatton will lose a few weeks after Cotto does.....
Simply put...
GREEN = Agree
RED = Disagree
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