The rules of boxing are very clear, hitting a man when he is down is illegal. Roy Jones was once disqualified for that infraction and Barrera should have been disqualified too. Taking a knee and the obligatory 8 count becomes very dangerous if somebody is going to hit you. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Barrera is a top professional and allowing him to get away with it sends the wrong message.
i know where your coming from but its the human condition and a proffesional boxer like barrera should of been able to reel himself back in but he didnt and he made a light swat and got a point taken.
a fair responce by the ref.
its not like when i think his name was butler blindsided whats his name after bout was over(sorry, you guys know what insident i'm talking about).
Both Barrera and Nady were at fault. Clearly it was a knock down.
Maybe momentum carried Barrera through, and some would argue that maybe he should have kept punching if the referee weren't calling a knock down. Quite how Nady never spotted it i don't know. He had no problem in spotting the punch by Barrera.
And during this 2 seconds Nady was doing what? He should have stepped in and either called it a slip or a KD, he was just STANDING there.
perhaps so, but thats no right for someone to take a cheap dirty shot!!
two wrongs do not make a right and I lost a bit of respect for Barrera with that cheap shot!
It wasn't "THE Rules" anything... the fight was still on... PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES.. if you are unable to protect your self the REF SHOULD BE DOING IT FOR YOU ... the only person you need to be angry with is JAY NADY not MAB and NOT ME....
It was not ruled a knockdown but was ruled a slip, and you can't hit a man when he is on the canvas, barrera knew that, he cheated on purpose. the deduction was deserved, that was the least that could happen.
Also, the rules state that there should've been a knockdown ruling and a ten count to deem whether Marquez was able to continue. Nady employed similar revisionist policies in the Anchondo-Barrios fight when a similar situation arose in the 4th round of their fight.
The rules of boxing are very clear, hitting a man when he is down is illegal. Roy Jones was once disqualified for that infraction and Barrera should have been disqualified too. Taking a knee and the obligatory 8 count becomes very dangerous if somebody is going to hit you. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Barrera is a top professional and allowing him to get away with it sends the wrong message.
There was a very clear distinction between these two incidents. In the Roy Jones-Montell Griffin case, Griffin was knocked out by a punch while he was down. The rules state that if the man is unable to continue and beat the 10 count, then a disqualification is in order.
In this incident, Marquez was able to continue. There is a huge difference in the character of Marquez and Griffin. Griffin clearly faked his being unable to continue, when he looked up, thought about it, and said fuck it, lets get some of that rematch money and a belt to kick. Totally different scenarios.
Bullshit, because whether it was ruled a KD or not, the fact is Marquez was on the floor - and it doesn't matter if it was a slip or a KD or a knee, YOU CANNOT HIT A FIGHTER WHEN HE IS DOWN, period.
It wasn't "THE Rules" anything... the fight was still on... PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES.. if you are unable to protect your self the REF SHOULD BE DOING IT FOR YOU ... the only person you need to be angry with is JAY NADY not MAB and NOT ME....
The HBO cast were all over Barrera nuts. I couldnt stand listening to that shiet anymore. They are a bunch of C0ck jockeys
OMG, I wanted to choke Lampley when he was yelling about there being no reason for the point deduction! I'm thinking, Damn- you're apparently as blind as you're claiming Nady is! Thankfully Larry peeked around his old-fashioned and said something about it or Lampley might still be wondering about the point.
That was as bad a call as I've seen Lampley make since freaking out about the ref stopping Lewis-McCall I.
The HBO cast were all over Barrera nuts. I couldnt stand listening to that shiet anymore. They are a bunch of C0ck jockeys
I FEEL DA SAME WAY .. BUT HE IS A MASTER
The rules of boxing are very clear, hitting a man when he is down is illegal. Roy Jones was once disqualified for that infraction and Barrera should have been disqualified too. Taking a knee and the obligatory 8 count becomes very dangerous if somebody is going to hit you. There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Barrera is a top professional and allowing him to get away with it sends the wrong message.
ACCORDING TO THE REF HE WASNT DOWN
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the bottom line is marquez was made to continue
he wasnt given the option to stop
montel could have and would have kept goin if the ref had said get up or u lose
he just did it right and laid it on thick
promptin the ref to stop and DQ jones
I know, I never said the other fighter couldnt act like he couldnt continue. If JMM was a *****, he could have pretended MAB blew his brains out with that punch and jsut layed there on the floor, and got MAB DQed right then and there. Didnt happen, thankfully JMM is a classy fighter.
Thats just what the rules are, and JMM got up and continued either way, so MAB shouldnt have been DQed, but the point deduction is good.
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The bottom line is that Marquez could continue. The fighter that commited the foul is only DQed if the opposing fighter cannot recover from the foul. The point deduction is fine, just like someone else stated already in this.
no
the bottom line is marquez was made to continue
he wasnt given the option to stop
montel could have and would have kept goin if the ref had said get up or u lose
he just did it right and laid it on thick
promptin the ref to stop and DQ jones
The bottom line is that Marquez could continue. The fighter that commited the foul is only DQed if the opposing fighter cannot recover from the foul. The point deduction is fine, just like someone else stated already in this.
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If you see the replay, you will see Barrera actually bends down, looks for an angle and punches Marquez. In my opinion, Barrera knew Marquez was on the floor and he hit him anyway. Nevertheless, Nady should have been quicker in stepping in. 1 point deduction was fine; no need to disqualify Barrera in that situation.Would have liked seeing Marquez given 5 minutes though, like when you get hit by a low blow. Anyway, we can all agree Nady was completely incompentent in that round.
Had that been say Mayweather or Toney doing that, we’d be calling for them to be banned or the win over turned.
fighters take an extra punch when they go down probably about 10 percent of the time.... its nothing to shit your pants over unless its a vicious blow
boixing referees, as a group, may be the most incompetant group of people working in american today... i mean christ, theyre only there to do one thing and sometimes you wonder if these fuckheads are sending out textmessages in the middle of the round....
i wonder if the television companies encourage the refs to stay the fuck out of the action on PPV matches... cause it sure seems that way.... the ref should never be so out of position that he cant get between the fighters in two steps.
Except according to the REF Jay Nady.. marquez wasn't down.. he hasn't acknowledged the KD nor had he begun to count.. SO I think MAB was well within his right to keep hitting
Bullshit, because whether it was ruled a KD or not, the fact is Marquez was on the floor - and it doesn't matter if it was a slip or a KD or a knee, YOU CANNOT HIT A FIGHTER WHEN HE IS DOWN, period.
I can blame him for it. The reason he did it is not because it wasn't ruled a knockdown, it's because he was all charged up and had been beat around the ring all round, probably still out of a it just a tad.
If it had been like boom-boom, KD and then Barrera hit him really quick, then that's understandable and he probably wouldn't have gotten a point deducted. But he like reared back and seemed to think about it, sees both of Marquez's gloves on the canvas, and THEN hit him. It almost looked deliberate (if not for his possible groggy state, then I'd say it certainly was).
But yeah, that wasn't a simple reaction, he had time to pull a punch back when Marquez went down. You're talking about Barrera here, folks, maybe the most experienced (especially in these types of fights) of any active fighter. He deserved to have the point taken away, and Nady should have given Marquez up to 5 mins to recover. Nady fucked up, but not with the point deduction! That's the one thing he got right.