Why do you think Boxing is not Big anymore?

well this is my WISH LIST for an improvement... weight classes: 11 weight classes (pretty simple to keep track of) 100-110 111-120 121-130 131-140 141-150 151-160 161-170 171-180 181-190 191-200 201+ Keep only 2 belts (WBC, IBF) I say two because the unification idea kinda gives more flavor and drama to a World Champion. Plus, only one governing body cant have a monopoly on boxing and the belts, so the two can work together side by side. The casual fan will say he has the Green belt, or the Red one, and maybe both :) In my opinion the WBC and IBF are currently the 2 most reputable and sought after belts so keep those and get rid of the rest. With this system, you could NEVER have more than 22 World Champions, which is a reasonable number for boxing bodies to make money off of. Compare this to the current 68 possible World Champions with 17 weight classes and 4 major belts. ya thats an awesome idea! I love the weight classes and then a fighter should not be allowed to weigh more then lik 6 pounds the next day so fighters can fight in there true weight that will help prevent deaths.

well this is my WISH LIST for an improvement... weight classes: 11 weight classes (pretty simple to keep track of) 100-110 111-120 121-130 131-140 141-150 151-160 161-170 171-180 181-190 191-200 201+ Keep only 2 belts (WBC, IBF) I say two because the unification idea kinda gives more flavor and drama to a World Champion. Plus, only one governing body cant have a monopoly on boxing and the belts, so the two can work together side by side. The casual fan will say he has the Green belt, or the Red one, and maybe both :) In my opinion the WBC and IBF are currently the 2 most reputable and sought after belts so keep those and get rid of the rest. With this system, you could NEVER have more than 22 World Champions, which is a reasonable number for boxing bodies to make money off of. Compare this to the current 68 possible World Champions with 17 weight classes and 4 major belts.

is there ever a big boxing meeting, like annualy, where the head of the WBC, IBF, WBA, and WBO sit around a table and discuss what needs to be done as a TEAM to better the sport of boxing???? Obvisouly each of these boxing bodies is huge on its own and holds meetings within themselves, but do they ever come together for the sake of boxing?? please inform me.as far as i know its all down to promotional teams. also, look at each bodies rankings, some of them are completely retarded. if they cant even agree on a rough top 50, how can they make fights. boxings money driven, ufc will go down the pan too when it gets that way. the cards will probably be reduced until its the same sort of size as a boxing event. thats what i think anyway

is there ever a big boxing meeting, like annualy, where the head of the WBC, IBF, WBA, and WBO sit around a table and discuss what needs to be done as a TEAM to better the sport of boxing???? Obvisouly each of these boxing bodies is huge on its own and holds meetings within themselves, but do they ever come together for the sake of boxing?? please inform me.

too many PPV's, bad match ups, poor decisions, too many fighters and promoters holding out for the money instead of making the better fights. along with too many controversys, not enough boxing coverage too, UFC is all over the place and on spike tv free almost every night, boxing doesn't get nearly as much exposure and when they do they get a lame drama filled contender, where the drama is the show and not the boxing. at least in the ultimate fighter those guys are there to wreck shop not cry about family and kids. boxing needs a big shot of pep, because it's slowing down drastically.only thing that sucked about the ufc reality show was the lack of an audience. all you can hear is the 2 trainers giving advice.....

too many PPV's, bad match ups, poor decisions, too many fighters and promoters holding out for the money instead of making the better fights. along with too many controversys, not enough boxing coverage too, UFC is all over the place and on spike tv free almost every night, boxing doesn't get nearly as much exposure and when they do they get a lame drama filled contender, where the drama is the show and not the boxing. at least in the ultimate fighter those guys are there to wreck shop not cry about family and kids. boxing needs a big shot of pep, because it's slowing down drastically.

I think it is because promoters dont build up there fighters...i was thinking about the success of UFC they built up the fighters so even if they fought someone sorry the people will believe it...they are buying the hype. look at how many shows are having an mma show? MSNBC has a warrior nation devoted to mma, and ESPN is now gonna air MMA fights and are thinking about taking away tuesday night fights...and also FOX public tv channel will soon be airing a reality show on basic tv! thawts huge! and you get to know the personality of the fighters. this morning i was listening to power 106 in LA and rampage jackson was on and he was very personable and charismatic and funny he is like a down south rapper with a unique story he has an albino son, half japanese kids and he wears a huge chain on his neck...and is funny to top it off. So many girls love UFC because of the reality series and the drama,I never seen so many women into fighting as in mma...because women need drama to be attracted to something they like the soap opera and hype behind the fight and the popularity. With boxing they dont build up the personality of the fighters, like paul williams, cotto, mayweather jr, pacquiao, etc. this was the reason oscar dela hoya was so huge and sugar ray leonard! oscar had a story and everyone in the usa learned of his mother dying and he dedicated the gold medal to her he was a good looking kid who could fight and he was a instant hit with mainstream because we got to see his personality and know about him... I think arum and king need to allow some younger people to take over and build up the fighters our sport is in the decline...more people are watching hockey in the usa then boxing. boxing right now is at the level of MLS soccer...heck even mls soccer in the states is getting more hype since signing david beckham. id have to agree, i got well excited about the recent ortiz - liddell bout, plus all the other fights made for a rly entertaining night. seeing forest griffin get "knocked the f**k out" being the highlight. the ortiz fight gave me the shakes both times i watched it. ive started dwnloading older fights too as it seems to mean something to me. like the liddell - couture fights etc only fight recently thats made me excited was pac - em III and harrison - williams II ufc are really getting it right, boxing is rly starting to look like a joke, everybody seems to be avoiding each other.....still. even the groundgame which ive always hated is getting more interesting as i start to see the complexities. damn, even k1 has been more fun than boxing

whats your rfucking problem dog? you seriously are ignorant....seriously im just trying to touch on a topic that is seriously effecting boxing! the more you ignore shit its like cancer it grows worse...remember a few years ago boxing was talking about its slump now mma is finally taken over boxing because boxing declined too much! and this is a travesty....why are you hatin me?> I have nothing to do with the decline dude...you act like im don king or arum and shit haha. wake up. It is a legitimate question, but I never see you discussing anything else. Sorry, at least you didn't try to talk about UFC. My answer: I agree with K-Dogg. There is simply too little for young people to watch. To speak only of American television, HBO and Showtime are pay channels that show Boxing Saturday nights at 10:00. This rules out young kids as well as anyone who does not have the requisite $$ to invest in the cable bill. ESPN on the other hand is of course much more accessible, but there need to be stars/ recognizable names with repeat appearances in order to grab the attention. I remember being 10 and able to watch boxing on tv. A few years later Tyson was champ but I could not watch him, as we did not have nor could afford HBO or PPV. But later there at least were still some weekend fights, include a couple early De La Hoya fights. At 15-6 I became a fan of him because I knew him from the Olympics and then saw a few of his early pro fights on free TV. There's been no one for young mainstream sports fans to follow since then.

I can't send anymore bad karma, but fuck off hectari and stay out of NSB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats your rfucking problem dog? you seriously are ignorant....seriously im just trying to touch on a topic that is seriously effecting boxing! the more you ignore shit its like cancer it grows worse...remember a few years ago boxing was talking about its slump now mma is finally taken over boxing because boxing declined too much! and this is a travesty....why are you hatin me?> I have nothing to do with the decline dude...you act like im don king or arum and shit haha. wake up.

when a guy goes from 135 to 140, i consider that half a weight class. Going from 135 to 147, now thats 1 full weight class. So when they say shit like this guy is a 5 division champ, i dont buy it. We have 17 weight classes, with 4 champs in each, good luck having new fans come to the sport. Good point. However, I'd settle for all the weight-classes as long as there were just one champ in each.

I can't send anymore bad karma, but fuck off hectari and stay out of NSB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when a guy goes from 135 to 140, i consider that half a weight class. Going from 135 to 147, now thats 1 full weight class. So when they say shit like this guy is a 5 division champ, i dont buy it. We have 17 weight classes, with 4 champs in each, good luck having new fans come to the sport.

why is boxing declining? Maybe its cuz people would rather see a full card of ufc fights with well known ufc fighters rather than paying 40 bucks to watch 1 good boxing fight with an undercard of bums. Having 17 weight classes kinda hurts matters too. Do we really need a weight class in between 105-112, do we really need a weight class between 112-118, do we really need a weight class in between 118-126. Its just stupid. There are 8 weight classes between 105-130, its a joke. i think weight classes should be in 10 pound increments.

In a word....exposure, or lack thereof. You can't have new boxing fans if there are no fights to watch. Growing up, I could watch any number of matches on "free" tv on the weekends. That's not an option anymore. Also, odds are there's not a fight club in your town that holds weekly contests you and your boys can go to on a guys night out or whatever. Fewer boxing venues means less exposure, restricting followership to those who were won over years ago and their circle of influence.

guys i agree too many expensive ppv;s and not enough basic cable or basic tv fights. This sucks because these old promoters are at that age where they are super lazy...they dont have the energy to try and hustle a deal with abc, nbc, cbs anynmore so now they look for the quick buck...back when they were younger they were hustling hard. arum and king need to realize they are just damaging the sport they can still be apart of boxing but they should allow some younger business minded guys market the sport people who are fresh...if they dont boxing will turn into ncaa wrestling...it will always be a sport but this is the reason why MMA is taking over. and MMA always uses the tagline this is the closest to a real fight then boxing. people who never watched boxing watch mma.

why is boxing declining? Maybe its cuz people would rather see a full card of ufc fights with well known ufc fighters rather than paying 40 bucks to watch 1 good boxing fight with an undercard of bums. Having 17 weight classes kinda hurts matters too. Do we really need a weight class in between 105-112, do we really need a weight class between 112-118, do we really need a weight class in between 118-126. Its just stupid. There are 8 weight classes between 105-130, its a joke.

IT HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH MMA....... PPV ... and lack of exposure... No free TV kills any sport...

A few good reasons 1. Poorly organized with all the multitude of weight classes and belts. There needs to be one governing organization. 2. Typically fights are for money over prestine or belts. Other than money there is no real desire to build twords an ultimate goal like the superbowl or NBA finals. 3. PPV is a killer. Nothing damages a sport more than needing to pay 40-50 a pop to see the big fights. 4. The bodies the represent the sport don't hype or advertise the fighters. Promotors do this and some do a better job than others but the coverage isn't what it should be.

has it ever been much bigger than it is now? Yes, it has in the days of Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, even the Trinidad and Delahoya prime is was a greater era in boxing. Boxing does not get the exposure it deservev because it does not get enough ratings for stations to pick it up.

a more pertinent query is, will you ever stop making "boxing is on the decline" threads?