since margarito wont fight willams ( due to being a pussy) i say put him in aganist Judah! i think it would be a hell of a fight! Its as simple as this, if Zab comes in at tip top shape- easy win....if zab comes in cocky-he will get embrassed!
I can respect your opinion when you put it that way. I just hate these PBF fans that have this double standard and don't acknowledge the fact that Floyd did the same thing. The only difference is, when Floyd did it he wasn't in Margarito's position where he had an upcoming fight that was against a tougher opponent. I can't call it a duck when he is taking a step up in competition. he would be stupid to fight Williams instead of Cotto for less money and a lesser fight. He will get more credibility if he beats Cotto than if he were to beat Williams.
Jaimari it is his mandatory. Margarito was never Floyd's mandatory. Floyd was never going to get stripped for not fighting margarito. Now i'm not knocking him for ducking this fight to get Cotto, but you can't call yourself the most feared and ridicule a fighter the whole year last year and then turnaround and do the same thing. That is the problem. You are the one with the double standards, it wasn't ok for Floyd but it all good for Margarito. That is real hypocritical of you.
willams is ways better than cotto and ranked ways above him at 147....shit cotto only fought once at 147! put into consideration that margarito all 4 loses comes from tall southpaws and he was knocked out in training by the punisher
I'm not even gonna respond to this post. This is a ridiculous post. Williams is nowhere near better than Cotto at this stage in there careers. You can't just say something like that and not back it up. What are you basing this on? Williams beating an old over the hill Mitchell. What has Williams done and who has he fought. Cotto beating Quintana is better than anyone Williams has ever faced. This is a ridiculous post.
I agree with what your saying but you just can't lay claim that your the most ducked fighter in the division then have a fairly big name call you out and even be your mandatory and not take the fight. It's the same as Floyd saying Margarito is too easy of a fight then not taking 8 mil for that easy fight.
I honestly do believe that Margarito is ducking Paul Williams, just as I felt Floyd did not want to get into the ring with Tony.
I can respect your opinion when you put it that way. I just hate these PBF fans that have this double standard and don't acknowledge the fact that Floyd did the same thing. The only difference is, when Floyd did it he wasn't in Margarito's position where he had an upcoming fight that was against a tougher opponent. I can't call it a duck when he is taking a step up in competition. he would be stupid to fight Williams instead of Cotto for less money and a lesser fight. He will get more credibility if he beats Cotto than if he were to beat Williams.
Thats too many cracks at the belt. He lost to Floyd and Baldy maybe after a couple of fights he can fight whoever's on top. Im against fighters getting so many title shots in a row.
Excellent post. If he wants to come back, he should have to earn his way back and not just be given a title shot right away. I mean how many fighters do you know would get a title shot right after losing his title before the biggest fight of his life. Zab has had more than hi fair share of shots, if he wants to come back he should have to work his way back.
If he was fighting a tomatoe can lesser opponent I could see it being called a duck, but you can't call it a duck when he is taking on a tougher challenge, that is gonna get him more exposure. It is just ridiculouds to say that. What good is fighting Williams gonna do. If he beats him everyone will say he was green and is fighting Williams gonna get him any closer to the types of fights he wants. Floyd came out and said he didn't even know who he was, and that is ultimately where Tony wants to be. Fighting Williams does nothing for him where as if he fights Cotto and wins it does nothing but sky rocket him and puthim in a better position for getting mega fights.
willams is ways better than cotto and ranked ways above him at 147....shit cotto only fought once at 147! put into consideration that margarito all 4 loses comes from tall southpaws and he was knocked out in training by the punisher
I agree with what your saying but you just can't lay claim that your the most ducked fighter in the division then have a fairly big name call you out and even be your mandatory and not take the fight. It's the same as Floyd saying Margarito is too easy of a fight then not taking 8 mil for that easy fight.
I honestly do believe that Margarito is ducking Paul Williams, just as I felt Floyd did not want to get into the ring with Tony.
If he was fighting a tomatoe can lesser opponent I could see it being called a duck, but you can't call it a duck when he is taking on a tougher challenge, that is gonna get him more exposure. It is just ridiculouds to say that. What good is fighting Williams gonna do. If he beats him everyone will say he was green and is fighting Williams gonna get him any closer to the types of fights he wants. Floyd came out and said he didn't even know who he was, and that is ultimately where Tony wants to be. Fighting Williams does nothing for him where as if he fights Cotto and wins it does nothing but sky rocket him and puthim in a better position for getting mega fights.
You idiot. It's called he is wanting to fighting a tougher opponent in Cotto for more money. It'd funny when Floyd does this it is called a smart business decision and when Margarito does it, it's a different story. Not to say that Williams won't be great but everyone is on his bandwagon and giving him all this hypewhen he hasn't fought anyone to deserve all this hype yet. Cotto is a much better fighter and tougher opponent. I could see if Margarito was taking on a lesser opponent but he is looking to take on a tougher opponenet. It's the same situation as when Floyd didn't want to fight Marg and side stepped him. What the fuck has Williams done to this point to deserve all this hype. Not to say that he doesn't have the potential to be a really good fighter, but to this point he hasn't fought anybody.
I agree with what your saying but you just can't lay claim that your the most ducked fighter in the division then have a fairly big name call you out and even be your mandatory and not take the fight. It's the same as Floyd saying Margarito is too easy of a fight then not taking 8 mil for that easy fight.
I honestly do believe that Margarito is ducking Paul Williams, just as I felt Floyd did not want to get into the ring with Tony.
One word... FEAR!
You idiot. It's called he is wanting to fighting a tougher opponent in Cotto for more money. It'd funny when Floyd does this it is called a smart business decision and when Margarito does it, it's a different story. Not to say that Williams won't be great but everyone is on his bandwagon and giving him all this hypewhen he hasn't fought anyone to deserve all this hype yet. Cotto is a much better fighter and tougher opponent. I could see if Margarito was taking on a lesser opponent but he is looking to take on a tougher opponenet. It's the same situation as when Floyd didn't want to fight Marg and side stepped him. What the fuck has Williams done to this point to deserve all this hype. Not to say that he doesn't have the potential to be a really good fighter, but to this point he hasn't fought anybody.
once zab feels the power he wont want to fight anymore. u really think zab will last 12 with him? b serious. he gets discouraged easily. once he sees that his power doesnt affect tony like he thought it would thats the beginning of the end.
This is definitely an interesting matchup, & if Margarito upsets Cotto, very possible.
See Judah completely thrashing Margarito for the first 3 or 4 rounds, landing big shots then spinning away before Margarito can unload in return.
Margarito actually gets really rocked for maybe the first time in his career, & we find out it doesn't actually discourage him in the slightest.
Margarito gradually gets on target, landing hard body shots with occaisional one upstairs, while still catching a few, but Judah starts throwing less & less, & gradually falls to pieces from Margarito's relentless pressure.
Judah stopped in the 10th or 11th, after numerous complaints & temper tantrums.
Swear to god that's how I see it, but maybe even sooner than that.
Baldy is nowhere near the puncher that Margarito is.
This is definitely an interesting matchup, & if Margarito upsets Cotto, very possible.
See Judah completely thrashing Margarito for the first 3 or 4 rounds, landing big shots then spinning away before Margarito can unload in return.
Margarito actually gets really rocked for maybe the first time in his career, & we find out it doesn't actually discourage him in the slightest.
Margarito gradually gets on target, landing hard body shots with occaisional one upstairs, while still catching a few, but Judah starts throwing less & less, & gradually falls to pieces from Margarito's relentless pressure.
Judah stopped in the 10th or 11th, after numerous complaints & temper tantrums.
It wouldn't be a total wipeout.... I do think Margy would hurt him once or twice in the fight but Judah stop him late or just get the UD...
You gotta give Marg props for the conditioning and chin....
I would love to see Judah knock Margarito the fuck out. It would be a disaster for Margarito. It won't happen though. Arum is using Margarito as a way to get Cotto's name HUGE. He's been hyping Margarito so that when Cotto destroys him it will mean something.
floyd did not make more than 8 million for the Baldy fight, period.
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"I thought about retiring after the Zab Judah fight ," Mayweather said. "The sport has been great to me. When I die, my legacy will live on. One more fight and I am through."
Over and over, he said he wasn't in boxing for the money, although he earned at least $8 million to fight Baldomir.
"I got a lot of money. I couldn't spend it in a billion lifetimes," Mayweather continued. "It's about being a legend in the sport, and I am a legend. I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish in this sport. I won the titles I wanted to win.
"I don't need no five-star restaurants. You can give me McDonald's and I'm cool with that. Give me Pizza Hut."
Umm, on the original topic, I think that Margarito is the golden opportunity for Zab. I mean, Judah has reflexes that are renowned in the sport, and if he's even a shell of his former self (of course) he should be able to stay away from those slow (albeit strong) punches of Tony's. I always thought of Zab during the Cintron fight. Whereas even a relatively even paced guy was faster than Marg, Zab would be faster, and would also give angles, not just stand in there.