Not the best shots, but all I found... :boxing:
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3589/petercr4.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8762/toneyog1.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7687/toney2nx2.jpg
i didnt know having a bunch of cuts was in shape.
as long as his stamina is good and he can box for 12 rounds
he is in shape. this sint mr olympia.
i assume you never boxed before
well i box and ive foght many dudes who were much mroe cut than me
but was gassed in the first round and i destroyed them.
boxing is about boxing not who looks better. sixpack dont mean you can
box
james looks good, he's in shape. this time he's not hog fat with the belly hanging over his shorts
If he was 220 against Peter he would get KTFO
This is false. Your chin does not decrease with weight, especially not in Toney's case because his excess weight is fat. If it was muscle, then you would have a point.
Toney is in better shape than last time, but clearly he could still be in significantly better shape. He can go 12, but he could do so with more GUSTO if he came in better shape...which he could, if he could lay off the food.
i read in the paper today that he used the tae bo guy to help him get into shape.
i'm not sure if it was usa today or the ny daily news...
Really?
No way!:haha:
Exactly. Just because your not cut up and the best looking shape, doesn't mean your not.
but it could tell you part of the how he is been training.
sometimes if a person looks fresh and cut-up ou could tell he is been training well but sometimes a person if he look dehydrated or sick it show that it hard for him to stay on wieght one example is Corrales and Castillo.
but also in the first Corrales-Casamayor casa came in very good condition.
some time not all the time
i didnt know having a bunch of cuts was in shape.
as long as his stamina is good and he can box for 12 rounds
he is in shape. this sint mr olympia.
i assume you never boxed before
well i box and ive foght many dudes who were much mroe cut than me
but was gassed in the first round and i destroyed them.
boxing is about boxing not who looks better. sixpack dont mean you can
box
Exactly. Just because your not cut up and the best looking shape, doesn't mean your not.
Thanks for the pics, he's slightly leaner, ever so slightly. You need to see a pic from the side to see how much of a gut he still has. His shoulders look stronger and fuller and maybe he's lost a little around the waist, that's about it.
Still, the deciding factor will be whether Toney has the stamina to remain active in the mid and later rounds to negate Peter's power with his workrate. Toney will need to impress the judges by volume, he'll need to outland Peter by a significant margin to make up for the many times he'll likely get rocked.
I think Peter will come better prepared from last time he is still learning and he still doesnt know how to finish off. you know if when he stunted Toney the last fight he backup but i think this time he will put some furries and could KO Toney like that. that is one of the major problem with Peter. If he could have put flurries on the last fight he could have won UD or even a KO because there is some psychological and mental factor as well as its hard for person to fight when his stunt too.
Thanks for the pics, he's slightly leaner, ever so slightly. You need to see a pic from the side to see how much of a gut he still has. His shoulders look stronger and fuller and maybe he's lost a little around the waist, that's about it.
Still, the deciding factor will be whether Toney has the stamina to remain active in the mid and later rounds to negate Peter's power with his workrate. Toney will need to impress the judges by volume, he'll need to outland Peter by a significant margin to make up for the many times he'll likely get rocked.
Yes I boxed before, and I am cut and my personal stamina is shit, cause I dont do fuck all cardio
Which I doubt Toney does. Because one of the sings of cardio work is what you look like.
ANd I replied to your post about "shape" in a different thread.
The lighter he is the faster he can move, the harder he can punch, the faster he can punch.
toney spars which is enough cardio
and is the best training. if im already at
my fight weight i dont do much cardio
i jsut spar and do my calistetics to keep
my stength. with lots of sparring i dont
get gassed in my fights
toney is carring heavy weight and with a 250 pound
dude leaning on you your gonna get tired. hitting peter
alot your gonna get tired. try banging on a 200 pound heavybag
for 12 rounds. your gonna be gassed. let alone having the heavy bag
punch you back.
tell me 5 heavyweights that dont get gased after 12 roudns of action
taylor gets gassed and he looks to be in great shape
oscar judah and mosley and other smaller guys get gassed
and they bodys are top notch
Well he does look better now then before ;)
He does pack more muscle.
All he needs now is cut that fat. And do that by eating fruit veggie and doing lots of runnig. I can see him go down to 220 by eating little and just doing lots of running. His ego is just too big, he thinks to highly of himself and doesnt think he needs to come in trim.
Sure he is old. But he is a professional athlete, hes done it all his life.
but he is in shape
he should have won the fight
since when does fighters have to dominate each round
with a 100 punches to win a fight
thats why there is 12 rounds
he fights pretty much the same way he did when he was younger
he jsut was knocking more guys out because they were smaller
He is too old to lose all kinds of weight... If he came in at 220 I was actually thinking more of a Peter knockout... But now I think he is good to go. I think he approached the weight loss correctly.
He's at heaviweight, he can do any weight he wants. And 220 on his frame is max heavyweight weight that he should come in at.
Can he fight at 235? Sure he proved it before.
But at 220 he will be much more effective.
yeah but 220 with peter leaning and hittong his body
will take much more out of toney
he needs some muslce some mass to take some of those blows
toney is older he isnt going to slip as many punches but
he can deflect and take them and make sure non of the
shots hit flush
but he needs some weight to take shots form the big man
he's in shape. he's 5'9 and a heavyweight now. he's not going to have a trim midsection now matter what he eats and how he trains now that he's pushing 40
i agree 100%
i didnt know having a bunch of cuts was in shape.
as long as his stamina is good and he can box for 12 rounds
he is in shape. this sint mr olympia.
i assume you never boxed before
well i box and ive foght many dudes who were much mroe cut than me
but was gassed in the first round and i destroyed them.
boxing is about boxing not who looks better. sixpack dont mean you can
box
Yes I boxed before, and I am cut and my personal stamina is shit, cause I dont do fuck all cardio
Which I doubt Toney does. Because one of the sings of cardio work is what you look like.
ANd I replied to your post about "shape" in a different thread.
The lighter he is the faster he can move, the harder he can punch, the faster he can punch.
or less?
I will donate all of my points if Toney knocks peter out LOL
True, I dont think Toney has the hands to KO many people at Heavyweight, but Mr. Soprano dont forget that he did wobble Peter a few times in the last fight. Who knows what a few more of those could do to Peter on fight night, especially in the later rounds.
i didnt know having a bunch of cuts was in shape.
as long as his stamina is good and he can box for 12 rounds
he is in shape. this sint mr olympia.
i assume you never boxed before
well i box and ive foght many dudes who were much mroe cut than me
but was gassed in the first round and i destroyed them.
boxing is about boxing not who looks better. sixpack dont mean you can
box
You're right. But the problem is, Toney HAS been gassed in his last two fights. If not, he might have come out with both decisions (Rahman, Peters; even though I still think he won both.)