i just saw the fight and i got to say i thought castillo won it, i was suprised how much he dominated the second half of the fight, how did you see it?
why complain about the first fight while the second fight everybody agreed Mayweather won that fight.
Another point is that Mayweather came with a broken arm in the first fight i dont know could be true or not but the second fight was his and i didnt see anyone disagreeing on that one
To me, the first fight was 115-113 for Castillo. I think he showed consistent and effective aggression and his bodywork was good. The second one was a hard earned, but clear decision for Mayweather.
Castillo was walking at times running after Mayweather constantly throwing punches. It is hard to tell at times which landed cleanly and which didnt.Compu Box may have counted some punches that landed on his shoulders and what not but Castillo clearly outworked and landed many more punches than Mayweather.Castillo outworked Mayweather and was also effective countering Mayweather so called jab to the body.He looked like at times he had no other choice than to run out the way instead of his usual ring movement. Yes the fight was close because Mayweather had his moments but like I said IMO Castillo won it. Ive watched this fight to many times already and I get the same result everytime.
Yes, in many cases, his agression was not effective.
Floyd landed cleaner blows and had better defense as well.
The best thing to do in close fights is watch it 3 times. Focuse on one guy the first time then the other the second and the 3rd watch everything. No commentatores. I did this with oscar vs tito and after doing that no one will convince me that oscar lost.
This fight I have only seen once and I had it very close for castillo. I don't think he got enough credit for body shots.
When I scored this fight, I decided to give all the close / relatively even rounds to Castillo. And it was Still a draw at 113-113.
In Actuallity I these are my previous fight scores upon different viewings: 114-112 Mayweather / 115-111 Mayweather / 113-113 Draw / 114-112 Mayweather
I think this fight was either a draw or a Mayweather win. I just don't see how people can score Castillo winning.
Floyd won 5/6 first rounds CLEARLY, and he won rounds I believe 9 and 11 very clearly. That's 7 rounds right there, and some of the rest of the rounds were close enough to give either way, which conceivably could give Mayweather 8 rounds to 4.
Thats how I felt the first time I saw it. All the debating made me go back and watch it many,many times over and I still have Castillo winning.
Easy fight to score?
Hell no.
Especially if you had Mayweather up.
I'd like to know how you scored the rounds. Not to talk shit, just to compare. I think I had PBF up 5 rounds to 2 after the 7th. And I got distracted after that (when I watched it last weekend), so I wasn't as focused, but I had PBF winning 115-113, which is how I had it the first two times I watched it.
I felt Castillo took the fight to him and got the better of PBF and got flat out robbed in the end.
Thats how I felt the first time I saw it. All the debating made me go back and watch it many,many times over and I still have Castillo winning.
Easy fight to score?
Hell no.
Especially if you had Mayweather up.
Floyd controlled the pace of the fight and when the two engaged. He also consistantly displayed better defense, clean punching and more effective agressiveness.
Castillo was walking at times running after Mayweather constantly throwing punches. It is hard to tell at times which landed cleanly and which didnt.Compu Box may have counted some punches that landed on his shoulders and what not but Castillo clearly outworked and landed many more punches than Mayweather.Castillo outworked Mayweather and was also effective countering Mayweather so called jab to the body.He looked like at times he had no other choice than to run out the way instead of his usual ring movement. Yes the fight was close because Mayweather had his moments but like I said IMO Castillo won it. Ive watched this fight to many times already and I get the same result everytime.
you know what
I watched it again the other day with a friend who asked for a fight were pbf lost. I picked the closest thing to that of course.
I did not even bother scoring it, I just enjoyed it.
and concluded three things:
1. ppl who dont understand the ones who had jlc winning are biased mayweather nuthuggers/castillo haters
2. ppl who dont understand the ones who had pbf winning are biased castillo nuthuggers/ mayweather haters
I think that for category 2 the cure is understanding is that not dominating is different from losing, and that compubox counts a lot of meaningless punches (arms and shoulders)
for category 1 the cure is watching more boxing and understand infighting.
In general i reccomend enjoying a good fight and see proably the hardest test for the greatest fighter of this generation,
and I gather this great chance to remind everone why you should answer "bullshit" to anyone suggesting that outboxing castillo is easy bcos he is short. (ffs, he even beat mayweather to the punch at times, how could ppl say "corrales should just use his range, and he is going to win easy")
Running for you is controlling the action?
and when he did stay in the pocket he looked unconfortable and Castillo got the best of him 9 times out of 10.
Floyd controlled the pace of the fight and when the two engaged. He also consistantly displayed better defense, clean punching and more effective agressiveness.
I thought it was relatively easy to score in that I couldn't see how Castillo won. It was a close fight in most terms but easy to score, despite being close. Mayweather, and later tonight I'll probably watch it again and score it again to be safe since I have some free time.
I do understand the difference between running and ring generalship. IMO Mayweather lost the first fight and the second was still close not like people are saying that it was a clear win.
Yeh HBO tend to do dat,i fort Mayweather won,not by alot but he won,the second time he won clearly
did you say gayweather farted ? or what the phuck did you say ?