Props to Kassim

Just trying to make it a point that Ouma got hit a lot more then Margarito did against Clottey, yet the Margarito hate was in full force after his fight with Clottey. Ouma take a billion punchs and nobody says anything. yes ouma did got hit a lot but he showed a lot of heart and movement as compared to margarito. up until the clottey fight there was some noise about him being the most "feared" fighter in the world, but he is such a disappointment in the last fight, making him the current laughingstock.

Just trying to make it a point that Ouma got hit a lot more then Margarito did against Clottey, yet the Margarito hate was in full force after his fight with Clottey. Ouma take a billion punchs and nobody says anything. That's because Clottey hurt both his hands. If he didn't hurt his hands he would been hitting Margarito alot more and would of won that fight easy.

I agree very much that Ouma would have a good shot vs Winky, and that guys like Taylor are just too clinchy and big for him. Mainly clinchy. Taylor should have opened up, because he does have the skills I think. Maybe he doubts himself. I didn't see it that way. I thought Taylor opened up a lot. Ouma was just very tough and surprising how he was able to take the shots from Taylor. Taylor fought his fight, Ouma couldn't do anything really.

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I agree very much that Ouma would have a good shot vs Winky, and that guys like Taylor are just too clinchy and big for him. Mainly clinchy. Taylor should have opened up, because he does have the skills I think. Maybe he doubts himself.

Damn, ferocity is borderline crazy in love with margarito now :lol1: Just trying to make it a point that Ouma got hit a lot more then Margarito did against Clottey, yet the Margarito hate was in full force after his fight with Clottey. Ouma take a billion punchs and nobody says anything.

Imo, if Oumas corner really cared for there fighter they would just have stopped the fight after say 8-9 rounds. Ouma was eating a ton of leather, he makes Margarito look like Whitiker. You save your fighter from a beating like this because you belive in him, and so he has enough for his future fights. It was clear in my mind that Taylor was winning. Theres was a lot of times Ouma would rush in, most of the time face first, and get in the inside with Taylor then he either throws one or two pitty pat punchs or he didn't do anything at all. His corner could have saved him for future fights instead of allowing him to continue as they did. Damn, ferocity is borderline crazy in love with margarito now :lol1:

You are, quite simply, overstating the 'beating' that Ouma took in this fight. No one makes Margarito look like Whitaker. That is laughable. Ouma showed me a few things at middleweight. 1. that he can fight at middleweight and 2. that he can take a middlweight punch. Oh, and Winky knows why he ducked Ouma, and if he didn't know before he knows now. Ouma would stand a better chance at beating Winky.

You are, quite simply, overstating the 'beating' that Ouma took in this fight. No one makes Margarito look like Whitaker. That is laughable.

There was no reason to stop the fight. Taylor landed some good clean shots but he still got walked down a lot and did not throw as much as he should have. The fight was closer than that Arkansas crowd would make you believe. Ouma does not need to change his style. His Compubox record-breaking style is what him a champ at 154. He will control 154 in the future with this same style. Imo, if Oumas corner really cared for there fighter they would just have stopped the fight after say 8-9 rounds. Ouma was eating a ton of leather, he makes Margarito look like Whitiker. You save your fighter from a beating like this because you belive in him, and so he has enough for his future fights. It was clear in my mind that Taylor was winning. Theres was a lot of times Ouma would rush in, most of the time face first, and get in the inside with Taylor then he either throws one or two pitty pat punchs or he didn't do anything at all. His corner could have saved him for future fights instead of allowing him to continue as they did. Yeah I mean all of the really big bombs for Taylor were pretty early in the fight. If Ouma was getting tagged like that then the corner could step in but Jermain tends to fade as a fighter and he wasn't throwing as many big rights so there was no reason to stop the fight. Ouma-Quartey or Ouma-Spinks are still very interesting fights The bombs from Taylor were for 12 rounds, but yes, less in the later rounds but still Ouma keep taking every single punch. He was a punching bag for Taylor. You remember Chavez v. Mayweather? Chavez was landing more on Mayweather, then Ouma was on Taylor but Ronnie Shields protected his fighter and stopped the fight and it was a much closer fight then the Ouma-Taylor fight. And that in return imo, save Chavez from further punishment but i still feel that stoppage was premature because Chavez was in the fight all the way and looked to be winning. Here we knew Ouma was loseing.

Yeah I mean all of the really big bombs for Taylor were pretty early in the fight. If Ouma was getting tagged like that then the corner could step in but Jermain tends to fade as a fighter and he wasn't throwing as many big rights so there was no reason to stop the fight. Ouma-Quartey or Ouma-Spinks are still very interesting fights

There was no reason to stop the fight. Taylor landed some good clean shots but he still got walked down a lot and did not throw as much as he should have. The fight was closer than that Arkansas crowd would make you believe. Ouma does not need to change his style. His Compubox record-breaking style is what him a champ at 154. He will control 154 in the future with this same style.

Taylor was only 2 pounds heavier then Ouma, but clearly Taylor was the stronger fighter. And yeah, Ouma took a gang of punch and credit for taking so many clean punchs. Maybe the corner should have stopped the fight, these punchs he took could have damaged Ouma, 12 round of pure bombs from Taylor tough guy. Taylor was just too much.

Ouma could make 147 Taylor could make 175 if not fuckin 190 yea he deserves props he never quit coming forward thats fucking heart yea he does need new trainers but I would say hes far from " sucking balls "

Taylor looked a little to eager for a world champ but he showed great power again tonight. Kassim showed heart but I was surprised he didn't throw more punches, I guess that the power he tasted he didn't care for. Let's talk about the biggest factor here though: Kassim Ouma was in the wrong weight class. Jermain looked like he was 2 divisions bigger. He can go back to 154 and fight a Cory Spinks or someone and still win a title there, but he is not a middleweight-that we knew before and after

Fuck all this shit, lets be real, OUMA SHOULD FIRE HIS TRAINERS...he needs to find a trainer that can teach him how to box...he needs to sit on his punches, using his whole body, not just his arms...he needs to tighten up his defense... With Ouma's endurance, heart, and stamina, it would be a waste not to get this kid a good trainer that can work with him....Ouma is still young, he has time to re-adjust.

Taylor needs no criticizing he fought a good fight Ouma is one tough son of a bitch I give him all the credit in the world

If I had Kassim's chin, I would go around starting fights with everyone I saw.

He's taken all of Jermain's best shots, keeps coming forward, although never hurting him, he's still there. What a tough and admirable fighter and person. I'm truly surprised, I thought that within 7 he would've been gone. Everyone that said JT would KO or TKO him in less than 7 should be giving him A LOT of props right now AND critizizing JT too. Agreeed. Well JT did say promise to look for the KO. the fans that under estimated ouma like me should be critized.