Morales-Pacquiao I: we all should have known what was coming

hey, any good souls can point me where i could download a good copy of this fight? i wanna watch it again, was drunk the first time.

I think the blood played a bigger factor than people were willing to accept at the time. If you brought it up after the fight all you heard was "excuses". But in the end, Manny had blood gushing down into his eye (worst situation for that kind of cut) and Morales took advantage of that with his accurate jab. I think it played a factor in the fight for sure. I was at the fight and I could see the blood from my seat which was fairly high up. It was also noted that Pacquiao had bloodwork done the morning of the weigh in because his previous samples were lost. Regardless, it was a tight fight, 7-5 Morales. At that point, I don't think Manny was using his right hand and in and out footwork like he did when he adjusted for the 2nd and 3rd fights. All of those factors lead to a Morales win in the 1st fight.

by the way lampley is a nuthugging little bitch pac was wining the 3rd round and lampley is on morales jock rjj to talking about how morales is embarrasing pac in front of his hometown, and merchant is saying calmdown fools And then Roy said that you have to have boxed before to know boxing....and if your not seeing what RJ was talking about then I'll explain it to you. During the early rounds Morales was mocking Pac by raising his hands after Pac hit him. (Something Pac does regularly) Why does no one see this whenever RJ JR's comment was brought up?

as a morales fan, i definately thought a rematch would be a bad idea, i was afriad after the raheem fight, morales himself had lost momentum, and getting your momentum back usually doesnt involve 2 young hungry fighters in a row.

I thought it was an excellent fight, but I had Morales as a clear winner - thought the scoring was a little too generous to Pacquaio as it was. Had Morales winning by 3 points clearly.

If you watch their first fight, in retrospect, there was absolutely no reason to think Morales could have beaten Pacquiao the second time around. Pacquiao was giving Morales hell nearly every round, even while wiping at his cut throughout the whole second half of the fight. Morales did not win as clearly as I previously thought. Now I did give Pacman pretty much all the rounds that seemed close (because he hits so ridiculously hard, you can't give Morales a round unless he outlands Pacquiao in power punches). Most of the fight, Morales is landing killer jabs, but Pacquiao's power punching completely negates it. The right hook was a monster for Pacquiao in this fight. I have it 115-113 for Morales just like the judges, but this fight was damn close, unanimous decision or not...and remember, that's WITH Pacquiao's horrible cut. Sure, Morales probably could have won easier had he not turned southpaw in the 12th, but that's just who he is, and you gotta love Morales for it. He didn't wanna coast at the end. He wanted to close the show with a bang, and every fan in that arena had to be thankful for that. I'd forgotten how much I love this fight, but watching it again, especially now, it's so obvious that Pacquiao could have won that fight and would definitely win a rematch (which he did). Morales takes way more damage in the fight, and it probably hurt his career big time, but if he hadn't fought Pacquiao, we all would be debating what would have happened years later. As it stands, Morales stood toe to toe with one of the hardest punchers p4p in the sport and survived a hell of a fight. I actually picked Pacquiao to win the first one, then picked Morales to win the rematch, going against my gut feeling both times. Morales is a true warrior and a real man for taking on Pacquiao when Barrera wouldn't, but Pacquiao was simply too much for him. I do agree on this one. I'm a Pac fan and thought Morales won convincingly when I watched it live. I thought then that Pac needed both rounds 11 and 12 to just get a draw. But he lost 11. I just recently watched the tape, and the fight wasn't as one-sided as I thought it was. But I still scored it the same. But some of the later rounds were too close to close. But I still gave them to Morales. And Rd12 of that fight is what we were to see in the next two fights.

Yeah. Nice thread DiegoF I hope it stays this way up to the 5thpage :D

its nice to see a pacquiao thread not going ballistic after two pages :)

In the 5th round, Manny was winning the round until the ref stop the fight so the doctor can check Pac's cut, then suddenly they gave it to EM. We can look at the 2nd fight again, but EM won fair and square. Yeah, we can say what could have been the result if Pac was wearing Reyes gloves and don't have a cut. A win for Pac or a draw or the same result? But its written in history already.

by the way lampley is a nuthugging little bitch pac was wining the 3rd round and lampley is on morales jock rjj to talking about how morales is embarrasing pac in front of his hometown, and merchant is saying calmdown fools I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that shit. I gave the 3rd to Pacquiao, but everyone other than Merchant were riding Morales' dick that whole round. Lederman gave every close round to Morales it seemed. Definitely could have seen it a draw. I agree with you guys that it's harder to see it as a Pacquiao victory, but a draw was completely within reason. I think the judges did a good job this fight.

by the way lampley is a nuthugging little bitch pac was wining the 3rd round and lampley is on morales jock rjj to talking about how morales is embarrasing pac in front of his hometown, and merchant is saying calmdown fools lmao ya that was funny how jones jr said that! its funny cause it was a pro morales crowd...more mexicans showed up that fight. and merchant was the voice of reason merchant is one witty dude.

by the way lampley is a nuthugging little bitch pac was wining the 3rd round and lampley is on morales jock rjj to talking about how morales is embarrasing pac in front of his hometown, and merchant is saying calmdown fools

i had morales 115 113, great great fight two warriors, i hope people dont overlook it when talking about morales its may be his greatest victory, pacman showed great heart in that fight

I actually had morales winning by 1 point but I thought it was gonna be a draw...if you watch the fight it looks like pacquiao could of won it because of his aggressive spurts but he lost focus when he was focusing on the cut...if the fight went 15 rounds pacman would of pulled thru cause he rocked morales at round 12. the funny thing is...how all these pac haters were saying morales schooled pacman? wtf how can you school someone when it was a war not a schooling...schooling is like floyd mayweather jr vs arturo gatti.

The cut and the gloves were the blamed elements of the first fight.

Larry Merchant actually scored it a draw. The rounds Pacquiao could be argued to have won are 1 (clearly Pacquiao), 3, 7, 9, 11, and 12 (clearly Pacquiao). Honestly, the whole fight could have hung in the balance on that 11th round, but I'm telling you, Pacquiao whoops ass in that round even though only Larry Merchant (the oldest dude) manages to see it. I gotta admit, in fast motion, I don't see it either, but in slo mo, Pacman rips into him. Is it possible that handspeed at that weight (when the effects are not always visible unlike say a Roy Jones punch) could actually be counter-productive in the event of a decision?

I saw that Morales clearly won the first fight, but I was absolutely shocked that he would take a rematch that he didn't have to after I saw how hard he made Morales fight. With all the ring wars, I knew Morales couldn't repeat the same effort. I was hardly shocked at the outcome of the rematch, but all credit due to Morales for accepting such a difficult task.

Another thing I noticed is how tough judges have it. If you watch round 11 in regular speed, it appears Morales wins it fairly easily. All 3 judges gave it to him and so did the announcers and Lederman. But if you watch it in slow motion, Pacquiao actually crushes Morales that round. He may be fighting in spurts, but when he starts nailing Morales, he is just punishing the hell out of him with both hands. So how the fuck do you score it? Crazy, but worth a look for everybody who has this on tape. Check it in slow motion. A lot of rounds really.