New Found Respect for Marquez?

Whether JMM won or lost aganist Pacman will be one of the most disputed topics of conversation amongst boxing fans. This fact you can't dispute: 1. JMM though he looked good against Jaca, he looked slow and he got hit quite a bit against a far inferior opponet. 2. If Jaca is slower pacman (which he should not be mention in the same breath of pacquiao) why was JMM still having trouble with the straight left hand (which is the money punch of pacman)? 3. All boxing fans know that the straight left is the signature punch of pacquiao and JMM continued to get hit by is throughout this fight and the fight against pacman. This does not look good for a fighter who looks like he is in declining slightly. 4. While JMM has screwed himself out of megafights in the past, he clearly does not look like the same fighter that fought pacman. While pacquiao has gotten much better since that night, he still is not unbeatable. This is why I give Guzman the best chance to beat him. 5. As slow as JMM looked last night, I truly believe he's in trouble againist pacman and barrera.

jmm is moving up to 130...he may be fighting barrera or guzman next. Also that ref was shady why did he say to jmm hey you wanna stop the fight your ahead on all score cards? wtf kinda shit is taht fire that dude cole. Jmm had difficulty with this kid weather you like it or not...even if he was hitting him he couldnt take the kid out early. I like jmm's old style his counter puncher was awesome to watch if he brawls like this against pacman he will be hurt. When is your little Huntington Beach ass going to understand that Marquez wouldn't fight this way againts Pacman. He's not stupid. Pacquiao can be outboxed, he can't be fucked with brawling with him. Why don't you go back to making them threads about how UFC is better then boxing and whatnot? We all know that you're a closet UFC fan and you enjoy masturbating furiously to their PPV’s, f@ggot.

JMM again showed he's a top-tier guy in the fight game, no doubt. Trouble is he got tagged 139 times, about 25% of them were power shots. Sure JMM showed good chine, once again, but the story would be very different if he's getting smacked by Pac by 35 power shots. As much as I'd love to see JMM and Barrera go at it, I don't want to see JMM go to war for 12 rounds with Barrera, before meeting Pac. Let's hope Pac can make that early-2007 date happen.

Marquez hasn't lost a fight since 99 besides his robbery from John ands he has won by KO in his last two fights. His counter punch style will let him stay a top fighter for at least a few years. I will concur, that was a robbery! The fight against John was posted somewhere on the internet, sadly I have lost the link. Anybody have it?

Honestly, why would you have a problme with Marquez? Winky wanted more money to fight Taylor, paqquioa wanted more money to fight Morales, Trinidad and Mosley wanted more money to fight Delahoya so i don't understand the where the hate would come from.

I have always had great respect for Marquez. He has been one of the best fighters in the world and it is too bad he has not been able to draw the fans. Part of the problem has been the mismanagement of his career. However, it seems to me Marquez is past prime and should be considering retirement. I hope he can get a big money fight next year, because old age is catching up to him. Marquez hasn't lost a fight since 99 besides his robbery from John ands he has won by KO in his last two fights. His counter punch style will let him stay a top fighter for at least a few years.

Well, what do ya think? He fought great, Jaca surprised me but didn't really impress me except for the fact that he has a great chin and he decided to stand toe to toe. Marquez throws some of the most beautiful combinations (including the one which caused the KO) I have seen, they are very clean and they come with a lot of power. He gave props to both Pacman and Jaca after the fight calling both of them great fighters, and he raised Jacas hand when they were declaring him the winner. Very classy IMO. I think most of the pinoys and all those who were on his ass after the Chris John fight should give him props for fighting the way he did and for what he had to say after the fight. I know I gained a lot of respect for him after this fight. I have always had great respect for Marquez. He has been one of the best fighters in the world and it is too bad he has not been able to draw the fans. Part of the problem has been the mismanagement of his career. However, it seems to me Marquez is past prime and should be considering retirement. I hope he can get a big money fight next year, because old age is catching up to him.

I never lost respect for the guy, he's always been a great fighter. I mean the guy got down from 3 of mannys hardest punches only to get up and beat that mushroom head for the rest of the fight. The guy is sicc in the ring. But he has lost some speed, but he's using controlled agression and its breakin these guys down. He's officially tearin ass through asia lol.. Off the topic I just noted how much of a killer left hook Oscar has! Nice clips Mayan.

JMM didn't have any trouble with Jaca, he wanted to brawl the kid and he was winning the fight by a country mile on my scorecard. It's just that Jaca took a good punch. jmm is moving up to 130...he may be fighting barrera or guzman next. Also that ref was shady why did he say to jmm hey you wanna stop the fight your ahead on all score cards? wtf kinda shit is taht fire that dude cole. Jmm had difficulty with this kid weather you like it or not...even if he was hitting him he couldnt take the kid out early. I like jmm's old style his counter puncher was awesome to watch if he brawls like this against pacman he will be hurt.

i still dont think jmm can beat pac now that pac has improved from the first fight. jmm has not done any improvement and may have his skills diminished. pac is no longer jab staright exclusive boxer :D

JMM lost the respects of the Pinoys when he refused the rematch with PAC. We wouldnt have this PAC-JMM debate if they had the rematch bout. Pinoys only give props to EM ...LOL Yeah this is true

Marquez has showed a side of him that none of us have got to see in his past few fights. I guess De La Hoya told him he needed to be more agressive in his fights. His combinations and body work is a thing of beauty respect to marquez for choosing to fight on even though he could have took the free win Marquez has shown he can do this through out his career. I remember he used to knock out some of his opponets early in his career he always was a very clever techniqual boxer. Against Medina, and Pedan he pressured not as much but he put pressure. And i think it was against Norwood where he started the pressure a bit late but was winning by boxing. If you havn't seen the Robbie Pedan fight check it out, the body punchs through out the fight against Pedan made Pedan in the the later round go to his corner while chocking on his own blood, while trying to through up blood, shit was crazy.

Marquez has showed a side of him that none of us have got to see in his past few fights. I guess De La Hoya told him he needed to be more agressive in his fights. His combinations and body work is a thing of beauty respect to marquez for choosing to fight on even though he could have took the free win

Not overreacting. He got swollen all over with Tersdak's left hand. He got a bad cut from Jaca due to headbutts. It's his overeagerness to brawl it out with a style he's not used to. His face will tell you that. Its boxing, you get hit. Just cause he's a boxer doesn't mean he's always going to come out of his fight unmarked. This just tells us that the fighters he's faced so far are good fighters and most improtantly have come to fight.

You're over reacting, Marquez didnt' get hit as much as your making it sound. Not overreacting. He got swollen all over with Tersdak's left hand. He got a bad cut from Jaca due to headbutts. It's his overeagerness to brawl it out with a style he's not used to. His face will tell you that.

I hope he doesn't get hit and cut too often though. This could be bad for him in the long run. It could be alright with sub-PAC opponents, but this could take a heavy toll on him. Just like EM who had to make every fight a war. You're over reacting, Marquez didnt' get hit as much as your making it sound.

Theres no featherweight that has the fluid, accuracy and timing of Marquez, nor the techniquez that Marquez brings in style or punching form. And at first he he was getting hit with the left hand then after 2-3 round he kept making jaca miss. Many have said that he changed up his stlye to look more exciting and that could be it along with the fact that he knows what to expect from a pacquioa fight so he's starting up a bit fast when he wants to in his fight. I've been following Marquez for many years, i dont' know how you can say you don't like what he is doing in the ring. I hope he doesn't get hit and cut too often though. This could be bad for him in the long run. It could be alright with sub-PAC opponents, but this could take a heavy toll on him. Just like EM who had to make every fight a war.

lots of featherweights stand there and slug it out. marquez throws and sets up better than any other featherweight, however he can do that on the move, which he didint do tonight, which is why im dissapointed. he was getting hit the same left hands that left him on the canvas 3 times against pacman, Jandaeng landed the same punches on him, this is why im not impressed. Theres no featherweight that has the fluid, accuracy and timing of Marquez, nor the techniquez that Marquez brings in style or punching form. And at first he he was getting hit with the left hand then after 2-3 round he kept making jaca miss. Many have said that he changed up his stlye to look more exciting and that could be it along with the fact that he knows what to expect from a pacquioa fight so he's starting up a bit fast when he wants to in his fight. I've been following Marquez for many years, i dont' know how you can say you don't like what he is doing in the ring.

You mean the headbut?? Including the headbutt. He gets hit and butted a lot given his new style because he's not used to brawling. Never will be at his age.

I also love the "boring" Marquez, although i dont find him boring at all, i really think he fought like this because he wanted to impress the croud, and specially cause Erik lost to that dog eater. What's with the DOG EATER you CANNIBAL?