just look at who this guy is fighting fight after fight. He fought Bernard Hopkins 2 times, fight after fight and beat him. Fought Winky Wright and had Winky NOT WANTING a rematch (in a close fight too, WTF!). And now he fights Kassim Ouma.
Jermain has best competition in boxing right now.
Opinions?
I have alot of respect for taylor. He fights the best out there. Even though i think he lost both hopkins fights and the winky fight i give him credit for stepping up and fighting the best. And even if he didnt win them. He put up a heck of a fight in all 3. I Cab see taylor shaping out to be a very very very dominant middleweight for a long time.
Just throwing my opinion out there. I thought Taylor won the first fight with B-Hop, very close though. The 2nd fight was also close and I still gave it to Taylor. Winky- Taylor was a close fight also and it depends a lot on what style you like. I like boxers more than punchers, but I just don't think Winky did enough to WIN the fight. Taylor controlled the action. Winky was blocking a lot of shots, but anyone can stand there and block shots. If Winky would have thrown more punches I would have given it to him, If Taylor would have kept his hands up to block Winky's jab it would easily be Taylor. The draw was a good decision. Keep in mind that I am a B-Hop, Taylor and Winky fan, so my opinion is truly unbiased.
Basically, if you scored Wright vs. Vargas for Wright, then you are scoring like an amateur. If Vargas lands one crunching power punch, Wright has about 4-5 punches to land just to get back on even ground. It is about power, not about the amount of punches landed. It's the reason why if you dominate 2:58 seconds of a round but get knocked down, you lose the round (and an extra point, mind you). Winky fans, you guys just have no idea when it comes to boxing. You're the type to be right beside Winky, acting like he got robbed against Vargas and Taylor. Crybabies to the end.
wtf are u rambling on about now. lol. this is the most rediculous thing i have ever heard.
us winky fans, we dont know boxing, yet we happen to live and die by one of the most talented boxers in the sport right now. lol
if u knew how to score a fight, u would know what we are talking about. I scored Winky-Vargas, (when i was just a budding winky fan, so i wasnt biased) in favor of winky by two rounds. HBO had something like that as well.
Sure, power matters a lot, but it means nothing if you dont land flush. Just because hes throwing wild shots with everything behind them doesnt mean u score it in his favor.
If winky blocks 1-2 consecutive power shots and counters with a single, picture perfect, pin-point accurate jab, he wins the exchange without question. thats what happened all throughout the Vargas fight.
The taylor fight was different. it was an amazingly close fight, i even think winky did wrong when he walked out of the ring.
Both fighters were landing a lot of shots flush, and winky did a lot of things better then taylor, taylor did a few things better then winky. Its all on how u view and score a fight
you said you scored it a draw, yet you can't see Taylor winning? do you realize if you change JUST ONE round of yours then Taylor wins on your card? that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
i am a HUGE winky fan. I tend to be very leaniant toward winky, so when i score a fight i give the REALLY close rounds to taylor. usually. So there is no way, on my card, that taylor won the fight.
Taylor got the max amount of points i could have seen him gaining.
there are plenty of ways, on my card, that winky wright could have won the fight. He could have won 2 or even 3 more rounds easy...
4 jabs from Winky hardly cancels out a power punch to the face from Taylor, lol
and thats why winkys jab made taylors eye triple in size, and taylors power shots just made winkies cheeks red and puffy. lol
now THATS the stupidest thing i have ever heard. hahahaha
the Taylor-Winky thing i though it was a draw.
but during the fight Taylor did something that no other fighter did. That is to hurt Winky even if he was in hie fortress defense. He hurt winky even when he is inside his shell. Is winky getting tired or something the evidence is that he Winky started to move more and not come in direct like he alway did and at the end changed his style completely
But he made a couple of fatal mistake like he kept the gaurd down where winky jabbed him that is why he got swollen. If he just put the Gaurd up he would have won couple rounds for sure
it doesnt matter that he got a gift. the fact that at such a young age, he was able to rock, and arguably beat one of the greatest fighters since sugar ray leonard TWICE, is enough.
THEN He fought winky wright RIGHT afterward.
And now, when critics, writers, and fans, think that taylor deserves an easy fight, he takes kassim ouma, one of the next best option to Winky Wright.
I dont see how u could NOT like this guy. He respects the sport, his fans, himself, and most of all, he respects his legacy. This guy wants money, sure, but he seems to care more about getting the big fight then he does about getting more money from it!
This is true, I have a lot of respect for jermaine taylor... he is a good fighter with the potential to be a great fighter. Mind you that I was born and raised in arkansas. All of my friends love jermaine, I just think he got a couple of gift decisions. What you say is true though and I agree, the fact that he was able to compete and make it a close fight with then the # 1 p4p fighter in the sport.. then fight the #2 p4p fighter in the sport says a lot about taylor as a fighter.
The 1st Taylor-Hops fight was easier to score. Hops did jack shit so Taylor won by default.
Moving on, crybabies. Taylor is clearly fighting the best comp right now. It's unquestionable. Ouma is top 3 at 154 and will give Taylor a good fight.
lmao... it never gets old.. it seriously paints a picture of him standing with a commentator, standing back and saying that... ha
DiegoF, with how many people agree on this topic.. how can you continue to be so delusional?
Oh I'm delusional? I'm not the one claiming a feather fisted fighter that lands 10 punches is being more effective than a power puncher that lands 3-4 punches.
If you told him he'd be the best, he'd reply, "Man. I'm a fighter."
lmao... it never gets old.. it seriously paints a picture of him standing with a commentator, standing back and saying that... ha
DiegoF, with how many people agree on this topic.. how can you continue to be so delusional?
Taylor will in the next 2 years become the best fighter in boxing. He's very green right now and still learning, but he beat Hopkins twice and drew with Wright. Once he develops his professional wings, he's gonna be the man.
lmao
You are truely making yourself look dumb. Every punch is the exact same when it comes to power. The things that change the punch is accuracy and effectiveness. If Taylor hits with a huge power shot to Wright but slips though his gloves to hit his face, its the exact same as a direct straight shot completly on Taylor's face.
Like someone else said, do you watch boxing or just vote for the stronger guy?
Basically, if you scored Wright vs. Vargas for Wright, then you are scoring like an amateur. If Vargas lands one crunching power punch, Wright has about 4-5 punches to land just to get back on even ground. It is about power, not about the amount of punches landed. It's the reason why if you dominate 2:58 seconds of a round but get knocked down, you lose the round (and an extra point, mind you). Winky fans, you guys just have no idea when it comes to boxing. You're the type to be right beside Winky, acting like he got robbed against Vargas and Taylor. Crybabies to the end.
just look at who this guy is fighting fight after fight. He fought Bernard Hopkins 2 times, fight after fight and beat him. Fought Winky Wright and had Winky NOT WANTING a rematch (in a close fight too, WTF!). And now he fights Kassim Ouma.
Jermain has best competition in boxing right now.
Opinions?
BHOP won the 1st fight, 2nd fight was boring. Wright got robbed of a win. Just look at JT before they announounce the winner, all nervous. He knew he lost but praying hopes he wins or get a draw. Well, god has answered him so far.
4 jabs from Winky hardly cancels out a power punch to the face from Taylor, lol
lmao
You are truely making yourself look dumb. Every punch is the exact same when it comes to power. The things that change the punch is accuracy and effectiveness. If Taylor hits with a huge power shot to Wright but slips though his gloves to hit his face, its the exact same as a direct straight shot completly on Taylor's face.
Like someone else said, do you watch boxing or just vote for the stronger guy?
4 jabs from Winky hardly cancels out a power punch to the face from Taylor, lol
lol at what?
at your trying to change what you said?
at how ridiculous your logic would have been even with the "right" numbers?
at how ridiculous is this last statement you just made?
besides the general logic of your post
if taylor hits twice as hard, winky should hit him with anything above twice as much to win a round
your "3-4 punches for 1" ratio is the mathematical proof of your bias.
4 jabs from Winky hardly cancels out a power punch to the face from Taylor, lol
I scored that fight 114-114 a draw, and its one of the few fights i have absolutely no complaints about being a draw.
But if I were to listen to an arguement about winky wright winning the fight, i would listen.
If i heard an arguement about Taylor winning the fight, i would NOT listen.
theres just no way he won that fight, plain and simple.
TAYLOR was outworked, outjabbed, and all his punches were blocked. He backed up almost the entire fight, and winky was the one making it a fight!
An since when has Winky Wright been afraid to take a rematch??? He took a shane mosley rematch back to back.
Winky wants the best of the best all the time, why else would he fight fernando vargas, tito trinidad, Shane Mosley, Sam Soliman, Jermain Taylor, and know Ike quartey???
A rematch is a very loseable fight for winky, but saying hes afraid to take it is rediculous.
He wants to take a fight he can win before risking it all again with Taylor.
That will come eventually, but now isnt the time. Winky has an amazing management team, they know what they are doing
you said you scored it a draw, yet you can't see Taylor winning? do you realize if you change JUST ONE round of yours then Taylor wins on your card? that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
i think duddy should start challenging the top guys in the division in maybe 2 years, possibly more depending on how many fights he has.
Im not gonna say a taylor-duddy fight is impossible. IF taylor and winky do rematch, a duddy-taylor fight would be in march/april oF 2007.
Meaning 1 year from now, taylor-duddy could happen, but it would be a terrible decision on duddys management. He could and would get destroyed. Lack of experience and skill at this point
BUT, anyone who says duddy was "exposed" doesnt know what they are talking about. if anything, he "proved" himself during that war with campas. He learned a TON in that fight, u could even tell as the fight went along.
He proved hes got the heart, the hunger, and the power to give a piece of hell to anyone who steps in the ring across from him. Hes the new gatti, the new main event and HBO/showtime guy. He will be one of boxings most exciting fighters in a year or two. Youd be crazy not to watch this guy fight
I think when duddy is primed at age 29-ish, and taylor would be about the same age, and they are both still undefeated (which is far from unlikely), i think that TAYLOR-DUDDY could be one of the best fights of that time.
One of the most exciting and meaningful fights of that year. That fight could be an absolute war. i would love to see it.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW DUDDY LEARNED AND IMPROVES FROM THE CAMPAS FIGHT. IF WE SEE A NEW DUDDY IN THE RING IN HIS NEXT FIGHT, A TAYLOR FIGHT ISNT OUT OF THE QUESTION
totally agree with ya there. Duddy isn't ready right now and needs a few more fights but proved a lot in a fight with a vet like campos.