word is that this two warriors are in discussions for a fight come january....i was just thinking how much more damage would be done to his career if he were to get knocked out by mora....no way it happens i hope....but if it does i have fernando by tko late in the fight.....
Vargas is a warrior, he didn't get babied and didn't want to be babied. Lets get real here, he's levels above Vanes at this stage and Abrahem still hasn't fought the level of opponet Vargas has and Vargas didn't it early in his career he fought everybody. Vargas was alread fighting top fighters. Vanes is taking it easy really easy, hoping he gets better. Vargas could have lasted a long time by fighting lesser fighters but he's a warrior and took on anybody and he has two solid wins over fighters, 1. over Winky, 2. over Quartey and Campas was a serious threat and when he faced him, one of the best Champions at the time.
Vic wants Arce so bad that he didn't even mention Arces name at the interview after the fight. His power is over-rated and is easy to hit. He has no power when he throws straight punchs, all his power is in bombs, sombody like Arce is going to smoother him and take all his power away from him. I could easily see Vic on his bicycle against Arce. Vic wants a fight, then have his people contact Hbo.
they have contacted HBO and everyone else, VIC vs ARCE may just happen early 2007.
and i wouldnt argue that Vargas is ahead of Vanes. Thats pretty obvious. IM just saying he made some poor career choices, and Shelly Finkel (who also manages Vanes) says the same.
Vanes would love to fight some of the top guys too right now, he is sparring with the guy that is gonna fight Calzaghe, that BIKA guy, and he actually hurt him once or twice. BUTTT, they wont let him jump in the ring with the top guys just yet, its business, and its making smart decisions to develop a young prospect.
We could have all enjoyed alot more of a great fighter like Vargas, had he had some people in his corner that told him not to rush things and let time take its course.
no one is hatin on Mexicans you dumbass. Im just callin it how it is.
Doesnt matter much that Vargas faced the best, cuz he could never BEAT the best, which means he always chose to bite off more than he could swallow, not the smartest way to move up in boxing.
You want elite competition, tell your pussy ass ARCE to fight Darchinyan since you want our guys to fight the best. Arce is one of the best, but he dont want no part of VIC.
Vargas is a warrior, he didn't get babied and didn't want to be babied. Lets get real here, he's levels above Vanes at this stage and Abrahem still hasn't fought the level of opponet Vargas has and Vargas didn't it early in his career he fought everybody. Vargas was alread fighting top fighters. Vanes is taking it easy really easy, hoping he gets better. Vargas could have lasted a long time by fighting lesser fighters but he's a warrior and took on anybody and he has two solid wins over fighters, 1. over Winky, 2. over Quartey and Campas was a serious threat and when he faced him, one of the best Champions at the time.
Vic wants Arce so bad that he didn't even mention Arces name at the interview after the fight. His power is over-rated and is easy to hit. He has no power when he throws straight punchs, all his power is in bombs, sombody like Arce is going to smoother him and take all his power away from him. I could easily see Vic on his bicycle against Arce. Vic wants a fight, then have his people contact Hbo.
Armenians always hating on the mexicans :bottle:
Fernando may be past his prime, but at least he faced elite talent.... wish I could say the same for the guys in your sig. :fing26:
no one is hatin on Mexicans you dumbass. Im just callin it how it is.
Doesnt matter much that Vargas faced the best, cuz he could never BEAT the best, which means he always chose to bite off more than he could swallow, not the smartest way to move up in boxing.
You want elite competition, tell your pussy ass ARCE to fight Darchinyan since you want our guys to fight the best. Arce is one of the best, but he dont want no part of VIC.
This is retarded, Mora is not going to build up his name and reputation by beating on a damaged Vargas.
That damaged Vargas could still do something.. That don't mean nothing.. You never know son... Vargas has fought tough competition. But Mora fighting him could be a risk.
Armenians always hating on the mexicans :bottle:
Fernando may be past his prime, but at least he faced elite talent.... wish I could say the same for the guys in your sig. :fing26:
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH lol
Abraham is the best out of them 3 IMO.. But Darchinyan can make it somewhere.. But i find it hard to belive that he is going to keep on fighting with the style he has.. Someone will find a way to beat him....
But back to Vargas Vs Mora.. If so this fight happens.. I hope it does.. I wanna see Mora fight someone..
i guess this could be interresting.
Shot Fighter vs. The Pretender
Armenians always hating on the mexicans :bottle:
Fernando may be past his prime, but at least he faced elite talent.... wish I could say the same for the guys in your sig. :fing26:
This fight would be good. But i think Vargas can pull it off. But who knows.. After the De La Hoya/Trindad/Mosley losses.. Who knows? Mora could win by stoppage.. By stunning Vargas in a corner and getting a quick stoppage and make it official.
This would be an interesting fight.. And i know Mora would take this fight..I mean why wouldn't he?
i remember fernando stating in an interview that he does not want his brother to fight....
He still spars from time to time just to keep in shape. As someone else mentioned his record is 1-0-1. He had natural talent and was a big puncher like his Fernando. If he been more dedicated he would have made noise.
"A friend of a friend" supposably has a video of the sparring session, i'll ask him to try and put it up on youtube.
Roger is not a very mexican souding name. Strange. How old is his brother?
His real name is Rogelio Vargas.
He's only had 2 fights. 1 win , 1 draw. Doubt he really takes boxing seriously.
wow, vargas needs to retire before he gets knocked out by that turd mora.
mora is bigger and faster than vargas. this fight is a disaster for fernando.
Wrong. Mora isnt bigger. He's slightly taller but wire thin. Vargas is thicker and a helluva lot stronger. Vargas although not the same fighter would still beat Mora who is a C+ Level fighter. Mora doesnt know what it's like to be in a real blood and guts fight where your life is on the line. Sergio would crumble under the pressure should either fighter have to dig real deep.
Vargas shuts Moras trash talking ass up.
...it would be an even more lopsided version of Cotto-Paulie
Seriously man give it a rest FYI that was not a lopsided fight Paulie took 4 rds on 2 judges scorecards and 5 on another. That is not the defitnition of lopsided. Paulie had the PR crowd completely silent from rds 7-10.But you are the defitnition of bias as are a lot of Cotto fans in general on this site anway. It is really hard to root for a guy when his fans are this biased.
Word on the street is that Mora sparred a few sessions with Fernando's younger brother Roger. From what I hear Roger got the best of him, so I don't think Mora would last too long with Fernando (he still has enough in the tank to KO a few non-elite guys)
Roger is not a very mexican souding name. Strange. How old is his brother?
word is that this two warriors are in discussions for a fight come january....i was just thinking how much more damage would be done to his career if he were to get knocked out by mora....no way it happens i hope....but if it does i have fernando by tko late in the fight.....
You are correct though, Vargas will wipe the floor with Mora. Mora's style is great for the amateurs, but in the pros you gotta fight. Vargas TKO8. I hope after that fight people will stop bs'ing that Vargas is back, cuz he isn't.
This would be a good fight to take for both parties involved, I'd say. For Vargas, Mora is a name fighter that he could conceivably destroy and get himself one last big payday from in a bigger fight. For Mora, on the other hand, if there is a beatable big name, it is Fernando Vargas. The guy was never great to begin with and is completely shot now.
Still, with all that said, Vargas by TKO in 4.
Word on the street is that Mora sparred a few sessions with Fernando's younger brother Roger. From what I hear Roger got the best of him, so I don't think Mora would last too long with Fernando (he still has enough in the tank to KO a few non-elite guys)
Id like Sergio to decision him, actully.
So would I and simply for the fact that if Vargas was to lose then he could retire without suffering serious damage.