There will never be another Tyson

the greatest of all time. mike won all belts and beat everyone during his reign. yeah yeah snarfy snarf

Life's a bitch...I don't blame him for going off track because at his age, his position and pressure of that position, and not having more time to learn, that shit tends to happen...he is human, just not the Demi-God people wanted him and made him out to be. Thats how I look at it too, well said.

http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/july1998/ivan-j23.shtml Homeless Russian boy raised by stray dogs By Richard Tyler 23 July 1998 Such are the appalling conditions facing homeless Russian children that six-year-old Ivan Mishukov preferred to live with stray dogs. The child told social workers, "I was better off with dogs. They loved me and protected me." His parents abandoned Ivan when he was just four years old. The boy survived by begging for food, which he then shared with the dogs that roamed the streets with him. In return they protected him and found warm places to stay in Reutova, west of Moscow, where the winter temperature can reach minus 30C. The bond that developed between Ivan and the dogs was so strong that it took police nearly a month to separate them. The article in the July 16 edition of the Guardian newspaper that reports this story is one of the rare occasions when the press gives a glimpse of the real situation in Russia today. Tom Whitehouse, the story's author, writes, "the conditions outlined in Dickens' Oliver Twist are like Disneyland in comparison with the lot of an average homeless Russian child." He reports how some 10 percent of teenagers thrown out of orphanages when they are considered able to look after themselves later commit suicide. Last year 17,000 children were the victims of attempted murder and 200were actually killed by their parents. Today the Russian economy has all but collapsed, with millions of workers receiving no wages for months on end. By 1995, prices had increased over 10,000 times, while wages had risen just 1,500-fold. The pressure this has placed on ordinary Russian families is enormous. For those unfortunate children who have no family to care for them, the state-run homes and orphanages, starved of money and resources, offer only the barest minimum provision. Ivan Mishukov is just one of 2 million homeless children in Russia that are left to fend for themselves. The fate of children and attitudes towards them can be regarded as a fundamental measure of the health of any society. What has befallen Ivan Mishukov shows that the once-vaunted rebirth of capitalism in the former USSR has produced the greatest social, economic and indeed moral collapse that has occurred in any country during peacetime.

Some of you talk about "OH I CAME FROM A BROKEN HOME" Tyson came from worse than a broken home, he was in a home with a shell of a mother, in Brownsville where most of you wouldnt last anymore than a week. Tyson had no dad and no semblence of parental care, he was basically on his own for the most part. Some of you who came from these "broken homes" probably had a mother/father who cared about you, or maybe an aunt, uncle etc, somebody. Tyson had nobody guiding him, at all until later in his life and by that time he had already garnered alot of terrible ways that wouldnt come undone until later. Im from the projects also, but i had a mom who cared and loved me and my sisters, tyson didint have any of that, these events that happened to him are all his fault, but dont even pretend you people grew up the same way he did because you likely didint

yeah....that or the callusness of being a broke ghetto kid has made me smart but hey whos keeping track obviously mr tyson would have been better off had cus not babied him and made him a silver spoon suckin moron? agree...Atlas was correct on wanting to discipline him, it would of served Mike better, but the problem is when is it "diciplining" and when is it "controlling"...Atlas has a bit of an ego himself, so I am not letting him off the hook either.

nobody can't deny tyson's greatness, in/out the ring, w/ all the good and the bad. after ali's era w/ foreman and frazier, tyson was the next mainstream boxer any regular fan knows. ppl would know about holyfield, lewis, toney, klitschkos but not as well as tyson or ali. they probably would know more about srl and duran than the heavies after tyson. so was tyson great? in some ways he was, after all, he did give quite a big boost to boxing during his era than all the heavies now combined.

yeah....that or the callusness of being a broke ghetto kid has made me smart but hey whos keeping track obviously mr tyson would have been better off had cus not babied him and made him a silver spoon suckin moron?

dont tell me about backrounds i grew up in a broken home in the city of flint ...a rough city full of crime and poverty JUST LIKE MIKE ... and i gaurentee you i wouldnt for one second dream of buying a friend a bently with that kinda cash..let alone 12 friends 12 bentlys or whatever else the crazy man spent

mike has no excuse for his behavior..but Don King screwed him when he was VERY young and Robin Givens did aswell......if mike had kept his original team around him for good he wouldve have been the most dominating heavy of all time... but he didn't and Tyson has only himself to blame: Tyson said it himself, Cus told him exactly what would happen to him if he didn't listen...so what happens? Tyson strayed from what Cus said "not to do", and he ended up exactly where Cus said he would if he didn't listen... Now if Cus was alive, yea, probably Tyson stays on track, but Tyson was shook by D'amato and Jacobs death and went off track. Life's a bitch...I don't blame him for going off track because at his age, his position and pressure of that position, and not having more time to learn, that shit tends to happen...he is human, just not the Demi-God people wanted him and made him out to be.

to me tyson is a more common route for smaller boxers to go.. now days it will take a bigger guy with tyson skills to compete with modern day inept clowns . toneys doing a good job although he's older and using more brains than tyson ever had.imo. These "bigger guys" are running out of gas after 3 rounds and most are unskilled...I think that is why I support Wlad, for a guy his size, he is incredibly skilled, but he does sometimes have stamina trouble.

a guy who was spoonfed the title at age 20 won 300 million dollars and various titles homes cars vacation spots the works only to lose them all by the age of 40 ? i hope to god there isnt another mike tyson because i dont think the human psyche can take that kinda stupidity all over agian ... mike tyson dosnt need people like you chanting he needs the truth for once not more bullshit You know what though, if you had Tyson's background and you got that kind money who knows how you or anyone would deal with it. Its easier said than done, plus Tyson had bad people around him.

a guy who was spoonfed the title at age 20 won 300 million dollars and various titles homes cars vacation spots the works only to lose them all by the age of 40 ? i hope to god there isnt another mike tyson because i dont think the human psyche can take that kinda stupidity all over agian ... mike tyson dosnt need people like you chanting he needs the truth for once not more bullshit

I just saw Tyson versus Berbick on EspN classic when he became the youngest man to win the title. he made berbick fall three times with one knockdwon punch. that mf was incredible. understand this: there will never be another mike Good! He was a disgrace as the Heavyweight Champion. NEVER Good! He was a disgrace as the Heavyweight Champion.

^^^^i agree he is the easier fighter to duplicate but i think to be like tyson u would have to have the personality and fan support. which no one will ever have his sort of glory.

I doubt there will be another Tyson as far as boxing skills and all. I think only way for there to be another Mayweather or Tyson or SRL would be for one of them to train someone who is near their size and teach them everything they know and all of their skills and tricks. Just like a Mayweather Sr. taught Floyd. I WOULD LIKE TO BE TAUGHT SOME SKILLS lol. Honestly though.

I agree there could be a fighter who fights like tyson and has his explosivness but his personality would most likely not match and probaly would not have the same fan support. There could be a fighter like ali but unless he talked the smack too i wuoldnt consider them alike.

Of course I agree with you...Mike went after everybody and singlehandedly cleaned out the division. It's not his fault the title was fragmented and Berbick was merely a paper titlist in the great scheme of things and in no way does it detract from the whirlwind Tyson was......but, Floyd's still got the official record. I'm just trying to keep things in persective. I understand your point

I agree there will never be another tyson. Just like there won't be another ali or frazier or srl. No fighter will ever be duplicated ever. Even if there styles match a little they won't act the same or have the same fan support.

yes, it does make sense, but still not his fault: it is not like Mike went after the easiest "Champion", he went after whoever he could get into the ring first Floyd's place will always be secure, he went from a ghetto thug to one of the most gracious men in sports. Of course I agree with you...Mike went after everybody and singlehandedly cleaned out the division. It's not his fault the title was fragmented and Berbick was merely a paper titlist in the great scheme of things and in no way does it detract from the whirlwind Tyson was......but, Floyd's still got the official record. I'm just trying to keep things in persective.

I got no beef with Mike, Abe; and you are correct in Mike's desire to unify. That was just my way of reaffirming Floyd's place in history...he's still got the official record. yes, it does make sense, but still not his fault: it is not like Mike went after the easiest "Champion", he went after whoever he could get into the ring first Floyd's place will always be secure, he went from a ghetto thug to one of the most gracious men in sports.