Ali and Hamed..............are they hypocrites?

It's true that Naz pretty much stopped training after the Robinson fight..

Just because they're not perfect, doesn't mean that they are hypocrites.

Eubank was Naz's hero from May 1989 to April 1992.

You have to realize that these guys are human beings first, muslims second. No matter what you are: Muslim, Christian, Jew, that doesn't mean you're a saint. Even Priests and shit sin.

"im gonna win my fight with Barrera because God is behind me. I dont need to train because Allah says what is going to happen. If I win then it was written for me to win, if I lose it was written for me to lose". That pretty much sums it up. Next. lol Thats not Islam. Thats typical Hamed talk. Wen didnt Hamed talk shit? Not Islam. Just Hamed. To say Islam fucked up Hameds career is as bad as him saying it was Gods will for him to lose.

Sounds to me like u got banned from ESB and got into some stupid fucking argument about religion. As for an athlete being religous. It doesnt mean they have to be perfect, they can make mistakes and fuck up like anyone else. How did Islam fuck up Hameds career? He was born a Muslim. How many more excuses u got?? I am not banned from ESB.

Sounds to me like u got banned from ESB and got into some stupid fucking argument about religion. As for an athlete being religous. It doesnt mean they have to be perfect, they can make mistakes and fuck up like anyone else. How did Islam fuck up Hameds career? He was born a Muslim. How many more excuses u got?? "im gonna win my fight with Barrera because God is behind me. I dont need to train because Allah says what is going to happen. If I win then it was written for me to win, if I lose it was written for me to lose". That pretty much sums it up. Next.

I think so. Ali is looked upon as being a moral individual who is dedicated to Islam. But did he follow the important teachings? No. Now, I have absolutely no problem with a man fucking around. In fact, I would encourage it (though it is slightly brain dead to get married and divorced constantly). But ALI Claims that he followed the teachings of Islam. So did Hamed. Hamed has since proven himself to be scum of the earth, - wrecklessly driving, leaving a man who could have been dying for dead, running away like a bitch. And yet these guys APPEAR to think that they are better than athiests :rolleyes: There are billions of other things that Ali and Hamed did wrong in the eyes of his religion. For example, he told Frazier that he was God. Guys like Scar from ESB claim to be devout Muslims, yet they say "I never use a condom when I fuck women" :rolleyes: Well, at least he will probably be stuck down with aids. Hypocrital fucks. They actually have the gaul to call people like me "immoral" because of our life styles. Pathetic :rolleyes: Sounds to me like u got banned from ESB and got into some stupid fucking argument about religion. As for an athlete being religous. It doesnt mean they have to be perfect, they can make mistakes and fuck up like anyone else. Islam fucked up Hamed's career. Along with some other things... All that bullshit belief in God... he isnt a strict muslim anyway, so why put so much emphasis on it... :rolleyes: How did Islam fuck up Hameds career? He was born a Muslim. How many more excuses u got??

Dude, I'm not the one running for Jesus/Allah/muhammed :rolleyes: I live however the fuck I want to live. Why not? I do not believe that I will suffer from it. Rocket science? Hardly. Then let them live however they wish to live, do you think the true creators of islam would like to see it used for political gain as it is today by some of the top leaders in the religion? How about the fact that there are many sects of islam killing each other over the right to worship from that particular sect? that isnt islam either, there is nothing definate about how to worship, Ali was a great man who did alot of positive things and those small negatives you named arent enough to make him a hypocrite. You "live however you want to live" yet you judge others? Then claim its not rocket science? What kind of argument is that?

Bullshit.. you didn't know the amateur stuff. You didn't know he lost fair and square to Dean Pithie. Yes I did you told me before.

People make mistakes, its not up to you to judge or to speculate, im sure there are plenty of things you have done in your life that arent rightous by the way your supposed to live, leave these guys alone. Dude, I'm not the one running for Jesus/Allah/muhammed :rolleyes: I live however the fuck I want to live. Why not? I do not believe that I will suffer from it. Rocket science? Hardly.

Btw everything you posted I knew. :) Bullshit.. you didn't know the amateur stuff. You didn't know he lost fair and square to Dean Pithie.

Fuck me sideways. Juy, you're talking to yourself up until the point I click on this thread again. :D Btw everything you posted I knew. :)

He should have one fight at lightweight (first fight back) and then settle in at super-feather. He could knockout Barrera and Morales, thats not unrealistic because those guys are really slowing. Naz had natural speed, he was born with it. You don't lose that, you lose speed if you had to develop it (and hadn't trained for years, and were in your 30's), but Naz never had to develop it. Naz had that speed at seven seconds old, seven weeks old, seven years old, 17 years old, and he'll have it at 70 years old.

Naz was a frightening combination puncher circa 94/95.

Naz has claim to the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO and WBU titles - crazy. He went crazy on the featherweight division, biggest puncher in the featherweight division's history and one of the biggest pound-for-pound punchers of all-time.

People make mistakes, its not up to you to judge or to speculate, im sure there are plenty of things you have done in your life that arent rightous by the way your supposed to live, leave these guys alone.

He even beat the WBU champ (Kevin Kelley) too :p With a one-shot KO :cool: Does Amir have any one-shot power, man?

Naz was just awesome, man, he won everything in the 90's, and he was just a kid. Here's his list of achievements in the 90's: 1989/90- NABC Class A Light-Flyweight Champion 1990- National Schoolboy Light-Flyweight Champion Junior ABA Light-Flyweight Champion Junior Four Nations Light-Flyweight Champion (in Belfast against Damon Kelly) 1992- Junior ABA Flyweight Champion (with straight KO's, including a 30-second KO of Michael Brodie in the final) Won his pro debut with a bodyshot Won his first three pro bouts in Round Two, at Flyweight 1994- European Bantumweight Champion 1994/95- WBC International Super-Bantumweight Champion 1995- WBO Featherweight Champion 1997- IBF Featherweight Champion 1998- WBA Featherweight Champion 1999- WBC Featherweight And 13 World Title defences, all in the 1990's. He even beat the WBU champ (Kevin Kelley) too :p

It'll be interesting to see if Amir is European champion within three months of his 20th birthday.