"There has been much speculation over the past few months as to whom Mayweather would fight next. As displayed throughout his illustrious career, Mayweather wanted the riskiest, most meaningful, and most deserving challenger in November and all signs pointed to the rugged Baldomir." - Boxing Scene's article, "Mayweather-Baldomir on HBO PPV"
At first I agreed with the Mayweather fans and thought, "Well he's not scared of him, he's just setting up a bigger money fight with De La Hoya." And an article even said that he's not going to risk losing because then it would damage his chances of a superfight with De La Hoya. Then I thought, "Well then if he's scared to lose to Margarito, then he's scared of Margarito." Then I realized that he says he can beat anyone out there, "why not beat Margarito and kill any doubts people have of you." Then it hit me, "He's scared of Margarito." Then reading Boxing Scene's article "Mayweather-Baldomir HBO PPV," I came across the words, "Mayweather wanted the riskiest, most meaningful, and most deserving challenger in November and all signs pointed to the rugged Baldomir." My ASS! The most riskiest would be Margarito, since everyone says he is the one who could beat Mayweather, the most meaningful is Margarito to seal the fact that he is not scared of anyone and can beat anyone and to insure that he is the best, and the most deserving is Margarito who has had a nice carrer beating people up and wants and deserves a shot at the title. I am not a big fan of Margarito's and certainly not a fan of Mayweathers, but everything says that Mayweather is ducking Margarito.
but in floyd's head, it would mean more fighting Baldimior due to the green wbc belt AND beating the man that beat the man of the WW division at that time...AND that he was getting equal amount (if not more) than vs. Margarito...
oh and its funny how some of you think Margarito has a chance vs. Mayweather...I mean, it doesn't take great reflexes to see his punches coming, thats all I gotta say..Antonio has decent power...but that don't mean shit as long as it lands...Floyd would feel a draft coming from those swings lol...and a fight between marg n delahoya, that edge goes to Oscar...he'd give him a vargas beating/repeated performance...
i dont get why everyone says such and such is being ducked by mayweather , frankly it goes like this, mayweather is top dog he wants a big fight , one where after its done he will make plenty and everyone will stfu, and if your not a biased poster than i think its quite clear that when you break it down the picture looks something like this:
cintron big up and comer big name , fights marg loses - out of contention
marg goes on to fight another up and comer paul williams , now marg loses - out of contention
shane mosely , always wanted floyd big fight with cotto , he loses - out of contention
that leaves 2 big names left out there : paul willaims miguel cotto
they need to fight eachother , winner gets pbf and than everyone can stfu lol.
It's official PBF is a ducker. Only stupid hardcore PBF fans who hate to admit their fighter is chickening out will deny this.
PBF fans need to wake up, they've been in denial for far too long.
Aren't you banned?
yes I know, mayweather isn't fighting margarito. but is margarito good enough to be feared? I don't think so. Margarito is known to be a punisher and ko guy but he has the same amount of ko's(25) as mayweather. mayweather 39 fights margarito 41 fights. Doesn't that make mayweather the better ko guy? or atleast margarito should have 7-8 more ko's than mayweather to be in the category of being feared.
If you haven't figured it out yet, Floyd is looking for big paydays. Floyd is looking for big names like Hatton, Mosley, DLH. Margarito is a nobody compared to Floyd. When Margarito beats some more quality fighters than him and Floyd can fight and Floyd can make even more money.
This goes out for DLT , You cannot tell me about Significant Wins HOW BOUT PBF who has PBF Fought at welter who is significant enough to crown him as the best at welter A DIMINISHING GATTI With not enough hand speed to last 6 rounds, A HAS BEEN SAMRMBA MITCHELL, You cant tell me he is the best at welter < I GIVE MUCH RESPECT AT A LOWER WEIGHT Class with his wins over castillo and diego, but margarito does have the WBO belt and is ranked2nd in the division , You know what it does makes sense to fight a hard hitting brick chin having agrentina boxer who is a lesser risk why because baldomir is to slow mayweather will overwelm him with speed agility and impecable defense, He will win credibility from fans like you "CONSUMER FANS" who only names. Besides let PBF beat baldomir and get the belt let him get his chance with the golden boy once margarito gets there he will be de throwned WHy you ask because the mental battle has been won FACT OF THE MATTER HE TOOK A LOWER RISK FIGHT FOR FIVE MILLION and not a crowd pleasing 8 million he is afraid of not getting his may 5 bout for a possible golden whopping , its simple clean cut and dry PBF WILL NEVER BE CONSIDEREd THE BEST AT WELTER UNTIL HE FIGHTS LEGITIMATE OPPONENT LIKE OSCAR MARGARITO HATTON , im going out on the limb on this won but the hell with it PAUL WILLIAMS why not throw in Winky wright , Or a lets good one for you "SHANE MOSLEY" is that a decent name for you. If PBF Fights these guys much respect but until then he is just a GREAT PROSPECT IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISIOn
It's official PBF is a ducker. Only stupid hardcore PBF fans who hate to admit their fighter is chickening out will deny this.
PBF fans need to wake up, they've been in denial for far too long.
REAL hardcore boxing fans know that Maragrito is the toughest fight out there for Floyd....he was offered PLENTY of money to satisfy is ego..he ducked.
Nice try but still speculation & not fact, you have any evidence he was offered that money, didn't think so. & if he was how can you know the reason behind him not taking it? more speculation. & IMHO Baldomir is as big a threat to Foyd as Margarito.
Allow me to repost my thoughts on the subject for the last time;
In the end when it comes to this subject in general it's all speculation, we don't know what offers were made, to whom & for what reason. Maybe like some people think Arum decided to make this offer knowing Mayweather wouldn't fight on his terms, maybe it was a ploy to Hype up his new no.1 guy off the name of his old no.1 guy. Maybe like others believe this was a legitimate offer & Floyd didn't want to take the risk cause he felt he was a serious threat. But to try to pass off speculation as fact is simply ignorant, so let me hit you off with some facts;
1) Mayweather is the undefeated #1 p4p boxer in the world, as such he's popularity is higher then almost any other fighter, & will most likely be one of the biggest names in boxing once Mosley & DLH retire.
2)Regardless of your opinion of Margarito, The most lucrative fight at 147 is against Baldomirat this point.
3) Regardless of your opinion of Spinks, he's the linear Champ at 154 and the most lucrative in that weight
4)No one who not a hardcore boxing fan has a clue who Margarito is
So where does that leave Margarito, waiting for a fight that very few people involved seem to be honestly interested in, & since he seems to just do what ever Arum says he gonna turn around and not fight a worthy opponent like so many are claiming Mayweather's doing.These are the facts take'em or leave'em
It's funny that's the second time I posted this & both times no one's answered back with a valid counterpoint, just goes to show you.
i thought all of the real boxing fans decided to ban these fucking idiots who keep starting these bullshit threads. look you fucking guys bitch when he was supposed to fight spinks and most said they would rather see him fight baldy now he's going to fight baldy and you haters are still complaining. marg will get his shot in due time but there's no need to start another thread that has been started a thousand times
Allow me to repost my thoughts on the subject for the last time;
In the end when it comes to this subject in general it's all speculation, we don't know what offers were made, to whom & for what reason. Maybe like some people think Arum decided to make this offer knowing Mayweather wouldn't fight on his terms, maybe it was a ploy to Hype up his new no.1 guy off the name of his old no.1 guy. Maybe like others believe this was a legitimate offer & Floyd didn't want to take the risk cause he felt he was a serious threat. But to try to pass off speculation as fact is simply ignorant, so let me hit you off with some facts;
1) Mayweather is the undefeated #1 p4p boxer in the world, as such he's popularity is higher then almost any other fighter, & will most likely be one of the biggest names in boxing once Mosley & DLH retire.
2)Regardless of your opinion of Margarito, The most lucrative fight at 147 is against Baldomirat this point.
3) Regardless of your opinion of Spinks, he's the linear Champ at 154 and the most lucrative in that weight
4)No one who not a hardcore boxing fan has a clue who Margarito is
So where does that leave Margarito, waiting for a fight that very few people involved seem to be honestly interested in, & since he seems to just do what ever Arum says he gonna turn around and not fight a worthy opponent like so many are claiming Mayweather's doing.These are the facts take'em or leave'em
I agree with that.
A lot of casual boxing fans do not know Margarito. Zab Judah is still a bigger name and draw as far as pay per view.
Allow me to repost my thoughts on the subject for the last time;
In the end when it comes to this subject in general it's all speculation, we don't know what offers were made, to whom & for what reason. Maybe like some people think Arum decided to make this offer knowing Mayweather wouldn't fight on his terms, maybe it was a ploy to Hype up his new no.1 guy off the name of his old no.1 guy. Maybe like others believe this was a legitimate offer & Floyd didn't want to take the risk cause he felt he was a serious threat. But to try to pass off speculation as fact is simply ignorant, so let me hit you off with some facts;
1) Mayweather is the undefeated #1 p4p boxer in the world, as such he's popularity is higher then almost any other fighter, & will most likely be one of the biggest names in boxing once Mosley & DLH retire.
2)Regardless of your opinion of Margarito, The most lucrative fight at 147 is against Baldomirat this point.
3) Regardless of your opinion of Spinks, he's the linear Champ at 154 and the most lucrative in that weight
4)No one who not a hardcore boxing fan has a clue who Margarito is
So where does that leave Margarito, waiting for a fight that very few people involved seem to be honestly interested in, & since he seems to just do what ever Arum says he gonna turn around and not fight a worthy opponent like so many are claiming Mayweather's doing.These are the facts take'em or leave'em
Fellas....
Get off PBF
He has at least 2-7 years left
He will fight your guys
He has a lot of fights left in him
The dude isn't scared of anyone
Especially Margarito, who IMO woldn't get past Corales at a catch weight
Its not even that Margarito has fans, its that PBF has haters. Almost nobody who is screaming that Margarito is great even heard of him before he put Floyd's name in his mouth. PBF is going to beat Baldomir in Now for the legit Welterweight title, Spinks in Feb for another legit title then DLH for his big payday. Meanwhile, Margarito will have lost by next May because he will have had to fight somebody by then and nobody will even be saying his name.
its played out....i AGREE..BUT fact is he ducked him to fight Cinderella Man..for less money..and i understand and respect that Baldi is the "ring" champ...but he was the "ring" champ when Floyd took the fight with Zab but NOBODY including Floyd would give him credit for that..he fought Zab Judah for MONEY ,period. A big PPV...but guess what folks he aint gonna make as much against Baldi as he would against Margarito.......So now its not about money?? all of a sudden its about being the "ring" champ..GARBAGE. Floyd is fake..i hope Baldi gives him a beating. :bottle:
Yawn.
Same old bullshit from you.
He can beat one guy if the muthafuckas weren't scared of him and would give him a fight. Rivera, Ouma, Collazo, they've all recently had fights and aren't ready to sign another contract just yet and you're saying they're willing to fight him, when? Next year? Margartio can't get a decent fight because he is being ducked. So the only thing he can really do right now is fight bums who actually have more heart and less fear then the champs and beat them up and just add to his resume. That way in a year, his resume will be improved and can fight big names, that is, if they don't duck him. For now all he can do is add to his numbers. And I'll say all Margarito is is just hype when a big name fighter actually beats him instead of saying that they can.
What are you talking about? Callaz & Rivera havent just fought. Ouma just fought but so the fuck what? You act like Margarito still has the early October date. He doesnt fight again until December.
All this ducking Margarito shit is so false. So what some of the other guys dont want to fight him. Thats not a big deal anyway since they all have just moved to 147 and have had 2 fights or less. There are so many guys that would fight him. You think Karmazin wouldnt fight him? Shit, Id rather see him fight Williams or Quintana instead of Clottey