So quartey landed more punches at a higher %, but they saying he wasnt throwing alot. Was Quartey getting hit a lot? Cause a lot of times judges look at effective punches more than accuracy and connect rate. i dont know, I guess I just got to see it
Yeah Quartey landed 201 out of 481 total shots (42%) and Forrest landed 184 out of 818 (22%). So Forrest was throwing a lot of punches but it wasn't effective aggression just sheer volume. And I don't think anyone would argue that Quartey was landing the heavier punches in general. Forrest had a slight edge in power connects but as I said earlier, it appeared Quartey was landing the more meaningful power shots. If you take the 12th round as a microcosm of the fight the decision is even more inexplicable. All 3 judges gave the round to Quartey who landed 24 out of 56 shots while Forrest landed 23 out of 100. Unless the judges suddenly changed their criteria for the last round it appeared they were valuing effective accurate punching.
Her scorecard is more paltable than a 96-93 card which is literally mind boggling. I actually don't understand how Forrest could have won 6 rounds. To even say that Forrest won 5 rounds would be a stretch. Quartey landed more punches at a higher connect rate and definitely won the ring generalship aspect of basically every round. Forrest had a slight edge in power connects but if you watched the fight the term "power" is being thrown around pretty liberally in this context.
So quartey landed more punches at a higher %, but they saying he wasnt throwing alot. Was Quartey getting hit a lot? Cause a lot of times judges look at effective punches more than accuracy and connect rate. i dont know, I guess I just got to see it
But didnt all 3 judges give the 10th rd to Quartey? The Melvina Lathan lady was more In quartey favor compared to othe 2 judges so I think that women dont know what they doing is unfair, it seems like her scorecard is right
Her scorecard is more paltable than a 96-93 card which is literally mind boggling. I actually don't understand how Forrest could have won 6 rounds. To even say that Forrest won 5 rounds would be a stretch. Quartey landed more punches at a higher connect rate and definitely won the ring generalship aspect of basically every round. Forrest had a slight edge in power connects but if you watched the fight the term "power" is being thrown around pretty liberally in this context.
2 or 3 great rounds does not win you 10 ...Quartey should have won :mad:
But didnt all 3 judges give the 10th rd to Quartey? The Melvina Lathan lady was more In quartey favor compared to othe 2 judges so I think that women dont know what they doing is unfair, it seems like her scorecard is right
This is another reason there needs to be some kind of national commision. So there can be people watching over these judges.
You dont see this happening in the NFL where a official keeps blowing calls but they put him in the AFC championship game.
There needs to be somebody monitering them.
I had Quartey winning 95-94 (5 rounds to 4; 1 even) but I guess it is conceivable that the judges had 1 round going to Forrest that I had going to Quartey. So in theory, a 95-94 win for Forrest isn't a heinous decision. What gets me is the 96-93 for Forrest with the deduction. That means Forrest won 6 rounds and Ike won 3 with 1 even... I don't see how Forrest could have won more than 5 rounds. If we give the 3rd round to Forrest (which would be for the big uppercut)then it is even more confusing as to which other rounds Forrest could have even won. This is perplexing at best.
I didnt see the fight this weekend, but was it really clearly a bad decision. All 3 judges had it for Forrest, it was an unanimous decision for God sakes. Did all 3 judges have it wrong on similar rounds? I have to see the fight 1st, but its hard for me to say it was robbery when all 3 judges saw it the same way.
Bonsante v Brinkley.
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I didnt see the fight this weekend, but was it really clearly a bad decision. All 3 judges had it for Forrest, it was an unanimous decision for God sakes. Did all 3 judges have it wrong on similar rounds? I have to see the fight 1st, but its hard for me to say it was robbery when all 3 judges saw it the same way.
This is not a bad idea......an instant replay of sorts.There are just too many fucked up scores lately.......something has to be done.Although I picked Forrest and thought it was a close fight..... I did not score it due to having friends over and what not,I felt Quartey won especially with the low blow point deduction.......
thats not a good idea, that'll lead to even more corruption. Having people get together and watch the replay and have groupthink, no thanks. I think judges should explain in short sent. why they gave it to certain fighter instead of only just a score.
I really wish that fights were analyzed on a recording before an offical announcement is made on who won and the scores.. Meaning in the recording room a score can change.
This is not a bad idea......an instant replay of sorts.There are just too many fucked up scores lately.......something has to be done.Although I picked Forrest and thought it was a close fight..... I did not score it due to having friends over and what not,I felt Quartey won especially with the low blow point deduction.......
Vernon never won the fight. If he's man enough hell give him a second chance like Mayorga did with him. If most of you thought the fight was a draw, what about the point deduction from Forrest? That would have made Ike the winner. Either way you put it Ike won.
Quartey doesnt want the fight...He said he holds nothing against Vernon and fought the best way he could have...
Quartey is now fishing for a fight against Spinks.
Judges were clearly wrong. Judges in this fight knew and saw nothing.
Glad to see Quartey Win this fight. Ike Won the fight and Vernon should retire.
I agree!I swear these prideless pieces of shit are trying to destroy boxing from the inside.This can't be simple stupidity this many times.They keep on doing this because they can.They don't have to answer to anybody,and they continue to get hired.Melvina Latham being the worst one!She should have been banned years ago!
Vernon never won the fight. If he's man enough hell give him a second chance like Mayorga did with him. If most of you thought the fight was a draw, what about the point deduction from Forrest? That would have made Ike the winner. Either way you put it Ike won.
did anyone seen Burton-Augstus fight.
at the end of the fight Teddy Atlas scared the shit outta one of the official.
Agustus was robbeb by SD and the official put it MD. Damn dont those offical or boxing judges know the rules of boxing or something.
if you seriously thought vernon won then you should stop watching boxing and leave these forums immediately!
Who said Vernon won the fight? I sure as hell didnt.
I said Vernon ran and was more active while Quartey was lazy and plodded forward and barely threw any punches. Have you never seen a fight where one fighter was more busy and active and got the nod despite the other fighter being the agressor and landing the better shots?
That is what Quartey vs Vernon was.
I suggest you need to watch more boxing if you havent seen fights that are like that because they are usually close and certain judges score on certain criteria. For some reason or another.
I never said who won, I said they both fought like crap and it was garbage to even watch...I thought the fight should have been ruled a draw or atleast the nod to Quartey because of the point deduction...
Read my entire posts throughout the thread and comprehend them first before you start spouting off at people.
You guys are making a big deal out of nothing you act like it was for the super welterweight championship of the world. It was a meaningless 10 round fight w/ no significance what so ever....10 rounds between two veteran fighters and a fight is bound to turn out like this..